pepe1991 wrote:MagicStarwipe wrote:Magicfanatic82 wrote:AG and Evan should get moved first. Birch could maybe get paired with a 2nd to get someone like Shamet or another young wing.
There us value to Vuc and Ross being on the roster. If we get a high pick, they take scoring pressure off of the young players and provide spacing for Isaac and Fultz. They also by all accounts are solid in the locker room. Same with Aminu, his value is so low he is fine as depth and a vet for us.
The teams culture won't change until Vuc is gone. With him being here so long as the centrepiece, we've taken on his personality. No matter what other players we bring in, this is Vuc's team. Time for him to go to a team where he isn't the best player and time for us to begin a new era.
Where i don't care whether or not Vuc would be traded, i find this thought process very idiotic one.
NBA is talent driven league. In past 9 years ,since Vuc has been part of organisation, not a single nba player he played with was actually better basketball player than him.
And guess what, it's not like he was man in charge of free agency, trades and failed draft decisons. He always was safe net for terrible coaches, terrible GMs and terrible presidents of basketball operations. Him being good player on it's own, despite incopetence all around him made their jobs more secured than they should be.
Your opinion would have some validity if Vuc was some hot head bully like Whiteside or Cousins that is literally bulling his path toward usage, panderin offense to him and scares coaches into defering to him. Vuc is most lay low, supportive player Magic got. Every single young player raved how much Vuc helped him, on other side, Vuc was first to defend Isaac not kneeling for national anthem and was supportive about Fultz taking over 4th quaters. For crying out loud guy celebrated Cole's buzzerbeater more than Cole lol
So in general this is very missleading comment. Magic didn't took his personality, Magic are just as good as their best player is. And that's good enough to make playoffs if they are healthy, and not good enough to win playoff series. That's what Vuc is, supporting,complimentary star. But it's not his fault "complimentary star" is closest thing to good player team got since Dwight left. It's literally fault of everybody around him, but him, including players, especially lottery picks, who flat out did not work hard enough to get there ( Gordon, Payton, Hezonja, Oladipo pre trade, Isaac, Bamba... you name it ).
Well let me elaborate on the "culture" that I'm referring to. Vuc is a good player, great guy, probably a really good teammate. All true. The other side of Vuc is he has the tendency to let his emotions get the better of him when things don't go his way which causes things to spiral down. Also, I'm not sure if winning is as important to him as it could be. His intensity and desire on defense has definitely dipped since Clifford's first season.
What I don't want to happen is for us to be fortunate enough to draft a young stud who comes in and takes a back seat to Vuc because it's his team. Nor do I want him to have the chance to be influenced by his nonchalant attitude. Now if we draft a really sure of himself, confident, mentally strong young stud who already knows how to play, all of that stuff probably won't matter much and he'll just take over naturally.
