Available backup pgs?

[pacers33granger]

It seems like kind of a rough time to be looking for a solid backup PG. If teams have two of them, they're probably playing both so it's not like you can buy low on a backup who has been relegated to 3rd string.

Unfortunately he's out for awhile, but George Hill would seem to be a good fit.

[LightTheBeam]

I try and mentally block him out, but duh this might have been the most obvious of candidates.

I wanted this when Delon was in Dallas. When I checked last he was having a solid solid year in Detroit. Is he a candidate to be moved?

What about D. Rose?

Edit:

I'd love to land Bjelica from SAC and Ellington from DET using TT as the salary ballast so we don't have to eat into our big TPE. Would pay whatever seconds needs to get it done.

BOS in: Nemanja Bjelica, Wayne Ellington, Hassan Whiteside
BOS out: Tristan Thompson, Semi Ojeleye, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP

SAC in: Derrick Rose, Semi Ojeleye
SAC out: Nemanja Bjelica, Hassan Whiteside

DET in: Tristan Thompson, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP
DET out: Wayne Ellington, Derrick Rose

Id do this. One edit, right now we are using Hassan. If we move both Hassan and Beli, we have a huge hole in the front court with zero depth.

Id say route Tristan to Sac, and Parker to Detroit for more cap savings. Sac could give some some 2nds as well to sweeten the pot.

Boston gets Bjelica, Ellington and Hassan for 4 2nds.

Sac gets Ojeleye, Tristan, Rose for Bjelica, Whiteside, and 2 2nds.

Detroit cashes out with expirings and 6 2nds for Ellington/Rose.

Sac runs with

Holmes/Tristan
Bagley/Barnes
Barnes/Ojeleye
Buddy/Hali
Fox/Rose

Id love to watch this 9 man roster go to war.

[LightTheBeam]

It seems like kind of a rough time to be looking for a solid backup PG. If teams have two of them, they're probably playing both so it's not like you can buy low on a backup who has been relegated to 3rd string.

Unfortunately he's out for awhile, but George Hill would seem to be a good fit.

Bad blood with George Hill. We paid him huge money a few years back and he complained about wanting out by mid-season. Can't imagine there's a reunion on the horizon.

[TheNewEra]

@LAClippers get:
Nemanja Bjelica
Tomas Satoransky

@SacramentoKings get:
Reggie Jackson
Patrick Patterson
Terance Mann

@chicagobulls get:
Vincent Poirier
Terrance Ferguson
Mfiondu Kabengele

@sixers get:
Lou Williams

https://tradenba.com/trades/HCtO0d2SK

Long shot lol and I don’t think Patterson and Jackson would waive the no trade clauses they both have going. Also I think we wouldn’t have enough money for the minimum roster spots

[nate33]

The Wizards have a pair of backup PG's that are each playing pretty well, but would be well served by unloading one of them so that they can find some minutes for Troy Brown to learn the position.

Ish Smith has a $6M expiring contract. His FG% is terrible, but it doesn't really matter because he is such a spark plug that he always gets the second unit rolling. His on/off numbers are second on the team, and it's not a fluke. I actually don't think the Wizards would willingly trade him because they're not thinking about tanking yet (like us fans are). The big drawback is that Ish has to have the ball in his hands. He is too poor of a shooter to play off ball. It works when he is out there with Bertans, Wagner and Mathews, but it might not work in Sacramento.

Raul Neto is the other guy. He has been a surprisingly competent guy that they picked up on a 1-year vet minimum deal. He's more of a "game manager" type of PG rather than a "bend the defense" guy, but he's also a capable off ball player who can space the floor. He shoots 40% from 3 and never turns the ball over. Basically, he does everything right except he is too short and can be exploited defensively (though he tries really hard).

The question is, what do the Wizards want in return? They're not worth THAT much. Neither guy is a stud and they're both too small to really be playoff-caliber guys. They're regular season guys. A 2nd round pick, maybe that Memphis one, would be plenty. But you might be able to find a better guy elsewhere.

[CP War Hawks]

Gone ahead and take Rondo, he needs a change of scenery.

[vege]

I try and mentally block him out, but duh this might have been the most obvious of candidates.

I wanted this when Delon was in Dallas. When I checked last he was having a solid solid year in Detroit. Is he a candidate to be moved?

What about D. Rose?

Edit:

I'd love to land Bjelica from SAC and Ellington from DET using TT as the salary ballast so we don't have to eat into our big TPE. Would pay whatever seconds needs to get it done.

BOS in: Nemanja Bjelica, Wayne Ellington, Hassan Whiteside
BOS out: Tristan Thompson, Semi Ojeleye, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP

SAC in: Derrick Rose, Semi Ojeleye
SAC out: Nemanja Bjelica, Hassan Whiteside

DET in: Tristan Thompson, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP
DET out: Wayne Ellington, Derrick Rose

Those Boston 2nds are useless and there is absolutely no way in hell Detroit would touch Thompson's contract.

[LightTheBeam]

I wanted this when Delon was in Dallas. When I checked last he was having a solid solid year in Detroit. Is he a candidate to be moved?

What about D. Rose?

Edit:

I'd love to land Bjelica from SAC and Ellington from DET using TT as the salary ballast so we don't have to eat into our big TPE. Would pay whatever seconds needs to get it done.

BOS in: Nemanja Bjelica, Wayne Ellington, Hassan Whiteside
BOS out: Tristan Thompson, Semi Ojeleye, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP

SAC in: Derrick Rose, Semi Ojeleye
SAC out: Nemanja Bjelica, Hassan Whiteside

DET in: Tristan Thompson, Carsen Edwards, 2021 BOS SRP, 2022 BOS SRP, 2023 HOU SRP, 2025 MEM SRP
DET out: Wayne Ellington, Derrick Rose

Those Boston 2nds are useless and there is absolutely no way in hell Detroit would touch Thompson's contract.

I posted a thread on this. Switched Thompsons contract for expiring Jabari Parker.

[ejftw]

Help the Clippers get Wright or Sato and you get Lou Will for an expiring and a second or two?

You can also argue with them on who gets to kick the tires on Kabengele

[vege]

I wonder if you could swap Joseph and a 2nd or two for Delon Wright. He's a better two-way guy than Joseph, isn't too old, his future salary fits your margins

Well, you explained why Detroit wouldn't do this. We had to stretch a couple of players to be able to get Wright to the team (and that was extremely stupid and the ultimate proof of how incompetent our GM is) but he would not trade Wright for a bad player owned money next season and a minor asset.

[pacers33granger]

It seems like kind of a rough time to be looking for a solid backup PG. If teams have two of them, they're probably playing both so it's not like you can buy low on a backup who has been relegated to 3rd string.

Unfortunately he's out for awhile, but George Hill would seem to be a good fit.

Bad blood with George Hill. We paid him huge money a few years back and he complained about wanting out by mid-season. Can't imagine there's a reunion on the horizon.

Good call. Totally forgot about that so throw that idea out the window. Maybe could be involved in a 3 team trade to get the Kings a backup whose replaced by Hill.

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[ThatBoyNick]

Bucks should do Augustin for Bjelica. Would make it easier for them to play Bryn Forbes because they wouldn't be hopelessly undersized with their bench guards.

Augustin, Rockets 2021 2nd, Rockets 2024 2nd to Kings

Bjelica, Bucks 2021 & 2023 1st to Rockets

Tucker, Bucks 2022 1st to Bucks

[Texas Chuck]

Bucks should do Augustin for Bjelica. Would make it easier for them to play Bryn Forbes because they wouldn't be hopelessly undersized with their bench guards.

Augustin, Rockets 2021 2nd, Rockets 2024 2nd to Kings

Bjelica, Bucks 2021 & 2023 1st to Rockets

Tucker, Bucks 2022 1st to Bucks

Not sure why you took a simple deal about a backup PG and inserted the Rockets getting an extra unprotected 1st.

[shrink]

Bjelica loved living in Minnesota. Is Rubio too good/expensive for your role in SAC?

[ThatBoyNick]

Bucks should do Augustin for Bjelica. Would make it easier for them to play Bryn Forbes because they wouldn't be hopelessly undersized with their bench guards.

Augustin, Rockets 2021 2nd, Rockets 2024 2nd to Kings

Bjelica, Bucks 2021 & 2023 1st to Rockets

Tucker, Bucks 2022 1st to Bucks

Not sure why you took a simple deal about a backup PG and inserted the Rockets getting an extra unprotected 1st.

It's (essentially)

Tucker for Augustin + 1st

then

Augustin + 2nds for Bjelica


I'd love to see Tucker on the Bucks, and I was just tying that into your idea of Augustin for Bjelica. Honestly, not sure if 2nds bridges that gap due to Augustin's extra contract. Maybe a 3rd 2nd would do it. I do think Tucker for Augustin + 1st is about right, of course not an unprotected 1st, but Houston sending back an unprotected 1st complicates that, only 1 of the returning 1st should be UNP, or maybe both top 2 or 4 protected.

The reason for Hou being involved would be, Bucks wanting Tuck over Bjelica, for defensive purposes obviously (and he's not shooting well this season either)

[LightTheBeam]

Bjelica loved living in Minnesota. Is Rubio too good/expensive for your role in SAC?

If the price is nothing (bjelica/Joseph) I'd do it. If it costs us more than that id probably balk. It's hard to justify paying Fox the max, Buddy 20+, Ricky 17, and having Hali also needing big minutes.

That said, this role is a guy who ideally should play 10-15, but with Walton going Fox- Hali - Buddy to end games, Rubio would figure to see 20-25 mpg for us so I'd stomach that extra year if it was a cheap pickup.

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[Knickfan1982]

I'm by no means looking for some stud. I just want someone who can take Joseph's place the rest of the season and isn't on a huge long term deal.

What's available?

Bjelica (expiring)
Parker (expiring)
Joseph (2.5 mil guarantee next year)
Glenn Robinson III (Expiring)
Justin James
2021 Kings 2nd
2021 Memphis 2nd
2021 Lakers 2nd
2022 Kings 2nd
2022 Less favorable of Detroit/Chicago 2nd

Using some combo of this poo poo pile. What is the best the Kings could get in terms of a backup pg?

If we fall out of the playoff race by the deadline I'd be willing to take even a trash second rounder for the rest of Elfrid Payton's deal.

[BelgradeNugget]

SAC in: F. Campazzo, V. Cancar
SAC out: N. Bjelica

CHI in: W. Barton
CHI out: T. Satoransky

DEN in: N. Bjelica, T. Satoransky
DEN out: W. Barton, F. Campazzo , V. Cancar

Why:
DEN gets players I like and think can help them for players they don't need IMO
CHI gets W. Barton for T. Satoransky
SAC gets F. Campazzo who is going to be good backup PG, but it is not primary need for DEN

[basketballwacko2]

It seems like kind of a rough time to be looking for a solid backup PG. If teams have two of them, they're probably playing both so it's not like you can buy low on a backup who has been relegated to 3rd string.

Unfortunately he's out for awhile, but George Hill would seem to be a good fit.

Bad blood with George Hill. We paid him huge money a few years back and he complained about wanting out by mid-season. Can't imagine there's a reunion on the horizon.

I had not heard about Hill complaining and wanting out, I know he had a big contract with a buyout in the final year, maybe he expected the team to win more games if so that was his miscalculation. I could see him coming back as a problem.

[basketballwacko2]

Bjelica loved living in Minnesota. Is Rubio too good/expensive for your role in SAC?

If the price is nothing (bjelica/Joseph) I'd do it. If it costs us more than that id probably balk. It's hard to justify paying Fox the max, Buddy 20+, Ricky 17, and having Hali also needing big minutes.

That said, this role is a guy who ideally should play 10-15, but with Walton going Fox- Hali - Buddy to end games, Rubio would figure to see 20-25 mpg for us so I'd stomach that extra year if it was a cheap pickup.

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If you're looking for a 10-15 min backup pg then I'd say you have the guy you need in Cory Joseph. Unless he's just really stinking it up. I have not seen him play since I haven't seen any Kings games.