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Post#241 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:26 am

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NyCeEvO wrote:A Nets personnel member who only had contact with KD and no one else? Doubt it.

And yes, I don’t know for sure. But I’m more reacting to the idea that it’s somehow the league’s fault that KD keeps getting barred from playing to health and safety protocols. It’s not the league’s fault. They’re just trying to mitigate the spread of the virus in a non-bubble environment, which is extremely tough.

It could be purely coincidental, but this being his 2nd time in under 25 games is interesting to say the least.


thats the problem. they arent actually trying to mitigate the spread. if they were, they would have suspended the game, pulled all the players off the floor, quarantined and tested them. They just want this illusion of safety. they dont actually care. Durant breathed, sweated, spit on every player who was on the floor tonight. its absurd.

Either really try and be safe, or dont. but dont give me this half arsed fugazy PR nonsense

This. Keep in mind the league is also out here allowing the Hawks to seat fans courtside. And this is the same city they want to hold the AS festivities in. Several teams will have players present in the arena and there will probably be fans in the stands. What happens if multiple players get infected and then go back to their teams and get them infected?

Maybe they are banking on things getting better, but why take the chance? Same thing as tonight. If they didn't know what to do about KD, why not err on the side of caution and just hold him out for tonight's game? I thought the NFL did a bad job with their COVID response, but this NBA regular season easily takes the cake. Just awful stuff.


Yeah its garbage. im fine with trying to be safe in a pandemic. but then, actually try and be safe. suspend/cancel the game the second contract tracing confirms durant was exposed. quarantine everyone in the arena, and start testing. its complete crap
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Post#242 » by CalamityX12 » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:35 am

Prokorov wrote:My thoughts on the game.

Steve Nash is an absolute TRASH coach with no business coaching a 3rd grade team, let alone a pro one. I'm done with this 5 out ultra small ball for 35 minutes a game. Second game out of the past 3 where deandre was killing it, and nash glues him to the bench while small ball with green turns into a layup line for the other team.

We get easier to defend when you take deandre off the floor. people will live with brown and green shooting threes. they cant live with deandre getting open dunks. and Deandre is no motumbo, but he provides some threat of shot blocking and rebounding. We also had them in the bonus with like 8 minutes to go, any coach with a brain is telling his team to go hard for contact.

Nash also froze out his wn player. gluing kyrie to the bench, then watching him stand at the table ready to check in for 3 minutes instead of calling a timeout as our lead dwindles.

I'm not taking "he is a rookie coach" as an excuse. you cant make awful horrific mistakes that a 10-12 year old rec league coach wouldnt make.

I dont think we can win a title with nash as coach. even with the big 3.

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Even with all 3 healthy, idk y I feel Kyrie sits too long... maybe compounded by Hardens minutes.

For you to turn/pass disappointment on Nash, he must really broke you! Lol

The whole Green at the 5 ain't a sustainable lineup for us. It's stupid.

I can go thru a whole list. But we're so at a disadvantage with length n athleticism that coupled with Nash coaching or lack of, this is serious complications to a title run imo
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Post#243 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:35 am

On my second watch of the game. It is really absurd that we didnt see Jordan the last 20 minutes of this game. He was getting dunk after dunk and putting a ton of pressure on the raps D. when they doubled, one pass and he was uncontested at the rim. With green in you have 5 guys standing at the 3 point line with harden and kyrie being hard doubled on the catch and when it finds green half the time they are able to recover by the time he dribbles towards the paint. then you have brown as a role man trying to navigate over siakim and boucher.

Green -12
Jordan +8

Same exact thing as the wiz game. Jordan playing well, he leaves and never returns as the wizards just detroy us at the rim and get offensive rebounds.

Nash doesnt even consider going back to Jordan. We dont need to go 5 out to space the floor. if anything, having DJs vertical space provides more spacing and open 3s
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Post#244 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:37 am

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Prokorov wrote:My thoughts on the game.

Steve Nash is an absolute TRASH coach with no business coaching a 3rd grade team, let alone a pro one. I'm done with this 5 out ultra small ball for 35 minutes a game. Second game out of the past 3 where deandre was killing it, and nash glues him to the bench while small ball with green turns into a layup line for the other team.

We get easier to defend when you take deandre off the floor. people will live with brown and green shooting threes. they cant live with deandre getting open dunks. and Deandre is no motumbo, but he provides some threat of shot blocking and rebounding. We also had them in the bonus with like 8 minutes to go, any coach with a brain is telling his team to go hard for contact.

Nash also froze out his wn player. gluing kyrie to the bench, then watching him stand at the table ready to check in for 3 minutes instead of calling a timeout as our lead dwindles.

I'm not taking "he is a rookie coach" as an excuse. you cant make awful horrific mistakes that a 10-12 year old rec league coach wouldnt make.

I dont think we can win a title with nash as coach. even with the big 3.

Truth

Even with all 3 healthy, idk y I feel Kyrie sits too long... maybe compounded by Hardens minutes.

For you to turn/pass disappointment on Nash, he must really broke you! Lol

The whole Green at the 5 ain't a sustainable lineup for us. It's stupid.

I can go thru a whole list. But we're so at a disadvantage with length n athleticism that coupled with Nash coaching or lack of, this is serious complications to a title run imo


it would be one thing if going small with green at the 5 was causing all sorts of issues. but it wasnt. jordan was a problem for them tonight. same thing in the wizards game.

im not saying DJ needs to play 30 minutes... but he needs to play at least 20 and he needs to see the floor in the 4th when they are killing us at the rim and 2nd chances
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Post#245 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:37 am

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GTR11 wrote:We looking at 2 to 4 games without KD now.

Read on Twitter
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If the test was inconclusive, why let him play at all? I know there’s almost no chance that he’d infect someone by playing tonight but why even allow for that small chance. He should’ve been held out as a precaution.

This seems like a similar situation to Seth Curry, who was on the bench awaiting test results before leaving the arena. Like bro, if you’re awaiting for test results, you should be away from everyone and only come back after it’s been confirmed that you’re negative.

For the players, they should be guilty until proven innocent, not the other way around. This is looney tunes.



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Post#246 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:41 am

Prokorov wrote:On my second watch of the game. It is really absurd that we didnt see Jordan the last 20 minutes of this game. He was getting dunk after dunk and putting a ton of pressure on the raps D. when they doubled, one pass and he was uncontested at the rim. With green in you have 5 guys standing at the 3 point line with harden and kyrie being hard doubled on the catch and when it finds green half the time they are able to recover by the time he dribbles towards the paint. then you have brown as a role man trying to navigate over siakim and boucher.

Green -12
Jordan +8

Same exact thing as the wiz game. Jordan playing well, he leaves and never returns as the wizards just detroy us at the rim and get offensive rebounds.

Nash doesnt even consider going back to Jordan. We dont need to go 5 out to space the floor. if anything, having DJs vertical space provides more spacing and open 3s


At this point I have no idea what Nash is doing. The eye test says that the small ball line up is killing us.
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Post#247 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:44 am

James Harden said that the game should have been postponed. I agree.

What was the NBA trying to accomplish here? Besides **** ing the Nets up??

this is garbage. I've seen footage over the last two weeks of fans without masks in the stands, all kinds of crap, but tonight? Clearly the NBA is full of crap in regards to "protocol" and "safety" with the way that this was handled. This game should have been cancelled.

Does anyone wonder why LeBron lashed out today at the league over the all star game? The Nets should boycott.
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Post#248 » by DarkXaero » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:44 am

I must be watching a different game because DJ is part of the problem. Sure, he has his moments, as he did tonight as well. But there's a lot of bad that goes on when DJ is in games. He literally cannot contest any shooters, whether its his own matchup, on switches, or off screens. He's very lazy on help defense, and while he's a better rebounder than other options, we still routinely give up offensive rebounds with him in, as he has his ball watching moments. Offensively, as a rim runner, outside of lob passes or high passes, he cannot catch the ball either. I'm not saying that we cannot play him more, but I completely do understand why we don't. We desperately need a high energy, mobile big on this roster. A Javale McGee or Nerlens Noel would do.
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Post#249 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:50 am

DarkXaero wrote:I must be watching a different game because DJ is part of the problem. Sure, he has his moments, as he did tonight as well. But there's a lot of bad that goes on when DJ is in games. He literally cannot contest any shooters, whether its his own matchup, on switches, or off screens. He's very lazy on help defense, and while he's a better rebounder than other options, we still routinely give up offensive rebounds with him in, as he has his ball watching moments. Offensively, as a rim runner, outside of lob passes or high passes, he cannot catch the ball either. I'm not saying that we cannot play him more, but I completely do understand why we don't. We desperately need a high energy, mobile big on this roster. A Javale McGee or Nerlens Noel would do.


He isnt the best defensive rebounder. but he is 500 times better then the alternative
He isnt the best shot blocker. but he is 1000 times better then the alternative
He is the only threat to finish inside with a dunk if you dont stick to him as an opposing big, even if he fumbles some

when he is in, you get punished for helping with your bigs on harden/kyrie drives. when he is out, you dont.

he has some bad games too. when he does, ride green. but when we are getting demolished with green on the floor and came back/took the lead with DJ, you at least go back to DJ to see how it goes

again, not saying play DJ 32 minutes a night. but give him at least 20 minutes and let him see the floor in the 4th, ESPECIALLY with durant out when we dont have a PF in addiiton to not having a center. Harris/Green cant be your PF/C for 30 minutes
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Post#250 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:18 am

Got through my second watch. It is even more infurating that Jordan didnt see the floor in the third. at first i was mostly mad because offensively we had no lob threat with our stars doubled and no shot blocker...

but then on top of that, Green provided nothing defensively on switches. going small at the 5 should help you on screens since you can switch everything. but lowry just abused green on the switches. green gave him space being scared of the drive. then lowry got hot and he played up and drive right by green.

it made no sense. we were getting stomped on D, especially inside, and our offense was getting ugly.

he didnt even TRY and make an adjustment
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Post#251 » by Whiskey Slick » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:24 am

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The latter. Basically about 6 weeks ago I was in a supposedly Covid free hospital for an unrelated procedure. After four days I was being discharged and they discovered my roommate at the hospital had Covid. I tested negative, but they told me to go home and self quarantine for a few weeks. If I developed any symptoms get tested immediately and go to the Covid hospital if necessary. Well it's been six weeks, maybe more, with ZERO SYMPTOMS, and my roommate/cousin has not contracted Covid from me despite our constant contract. All of the aforementioned considered, that's why I'm assuming I got lucky and dodged a bullet.
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Post#252 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:28 am

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NyCeEvO wrote:You can test positive after soon after testing negative.

It takes time for the virus to self-replicate. That’s why if you’re exposed to someone who is confirmed to have COVID, you should quarantine regardless but not take a PCR test until day 5 after post-exposure. By that time, the virus should’ve self-replicated enough such that we’d know whether you have COVID or not. If you take the test too soon after exposure, you still might end up getting COVID despite early negative tests.

But it's also highly unlikely that you would be shedding a significant amount of virus only a few hours after exposure. KD supposedly had contact with this person this afternoon.

That’s correct. But because “highly unlikely” isn’t “impossible”, I understand why the league doesn’t want to take any chances despite the **** behind letting him play initially lol.

No, it is impossible to be contagious only a couple hours later. It highly unlikely to be contagious just 24 hours later. The virus needs time to incubate.
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Post#253 » by Whiskey Slick » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:31 am

TheNetsFan wrote:No, it is impossible to be contagious only a couple hours later. It highly unlikely to be contagious just 24 hours later. The virus needs time to incubate.

It could take up to two weeks (14 days) from what I understand. If you pass the the two weeks threshold and remain symptoms free, or test negative, you most likely dodged a bullet.
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Post#254 » by Openheimer » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:45 am

Offensive rebounds killed us down tje stretch.Aga Not Philly Harden and Kyrie need to be shooting 20 shots each . You just can allow teams to take you out
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Post#255 » by NetsJets » Sat Feb 6, 2021 7:51 am

Raptors defense took Kyrie and Harden out of the game. The role players had their moments but we needed the stars to take us home and they didn’t. Frustrating game.
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Post#256 » by GTR11 » Sat Feb 6, 2021 7:59 am

Openheimer wrote:Offensive rebounds killed us down tje stretch.Aga Not Philly Harden and Kyrie need to be shooting 20 shots each . You just can allow teams to take you out


Kyrie checked out mentally if some didn't notice. Had nothing to do to make others better or passing for better shots. We've seen Kyrie vs Clippers right, ok than.

There is no denying KD is a leader of these guys and what he says and does is how this team go. Not having KD might hurt us a lot. Harden will have to switch into MVP mode for us to have any chance.
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Post#257 » by Paradise » Sat Feb 6, 2021 9:46 am

NetsJets wrote:Raptors defense took Kyrie and Harden out of the game. The role players had their moments but we needed the stars to take us home and they didn’t. Frustrating game.

You know what helps that? Better lineups.

They were multiple possessions, they sent a box in one defense towards Harden or Kyrie and it ended in Jeff Green shots.

Adding in a big that could roll, screen and pass from the high post would surely be the logical thing in that situation to break a zone.

You cannot have James Harden, Kyrie Irving, Harris and Shamet on the floor and still struggle to get clean looks off. That’s absolutely on coaching.
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Post#258 » by GYK » Sat Feb 6, 2021 11:46 am

DJ was great this game. He was dropping in coverage and both our runs to get back and get ahead came with him. We rely so heavily on converting in the half court. Not a turnover producing team. Defensive stops is transition and our only easy buckets.
Credit to the Raptors they started the game in our jerseys. Made it a mid fight. Their fans can complain about whatever calls but it was the exact gameplan. “Take a few fouls so we can be physical for the majority of the game”. Also trapping kept our scorers as passers. Kyrie was clearly impatient in switching gears thus an 7 TO game.
Nevertheless Jacque Vaughn’s drop defensive scheme is this teams only chance of winning. Switching is killing us. I get it this is a Warriors related team, all levels someway somehow. But we aren’t playing them every night. Everyone else wants to get points at the paint and we aren’t the best team at stopping the drive. Switching isn’t helping with the roll man. Slips. Or our rebounding or designated rim protectors, with a few on ball and off ball screens and your “bigs” are now out of rebounding position on the perimeter.
It’s so frustrating watching this team do something they are without a doubt failing a while knowing the solution has already worked with Kyrie/DJ/Harris/TLC. Even Jeff just came from Utah running a similar drop coverage defense.
Your terrible on defense and the guy to your left just ran a top10 defense with same personnel(no Allen but everyone is wash if not better). He would go down as the coach of the best dynasty ever with such a simple and ready(Jacque is literally right there to implement the scheme) change. Not to mention it’s far simpler of a scheme. Far less lapses.
Once we get another 30mpg big and the scheme doesn’t change then Nash/MDA(clearly it’s MDA influence to go with his teams scheme instead of the defensive coach who had them ranked 9th) should be fired. I don’t want Nash fired. I think he absolutely works well with the players. I think he sees the game in a unique way and situationally make a brilliant call only he or CP3 could make. I think Harden/Nash/MDA as an offensive braintrust will keep our offense top tier in all circumstances(rough game and they knew immediately how to counter). But there defensive awareness is flawed. I’m sure now even this switching scheme was implemented by an assistant coach on the Rockets staff and not Mike.
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Post#259 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:25 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:You can test positive after soon after testing negative.

It takes time for the virus to self-replicate. That’s why if you’re exposed to someone who is confirmed to have COVID, you should quarantine regardless but not take a PCR test until day 5 after post-exposure. By that time, the virus should’ve self-replicated enough such that we’d know whether you have COVID or not. If you take the test too soon after exposure, you still might end up getting COVID despite early negative tests.

But it's also highly unlikely that you would be shedding a significant amount of virus only a few hours after exposure. KD supposedly had contact with this person this afternoon.

That’s correct. But because “highly unlikely” isn’t “impossible”, I understand why the league doesn’t want to take any chances despite the **** behind letting him play initially lol.


If the league didn't want to take any chances, the game should have been postponed. Durant was in contact with everyone on the Nets and multiple Raptors.

That was a national TV game. You and I both know why they pulled this stunt.

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Post#260 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:27 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Openheimer wrote:Offensive rebounds killed us down tje stretch.Aga Not Philly Harden and Kyrie need to be shooting 20 shots each . You just can allow teams to take you out


Kyrie checked out mentally if some didn't notice. Had nothing to do to make others better or passing for better shots. We've seen Kyrie vs Clippers right, ok than.

There is no denying KD is a leader of these guys and what he says and does is how this team go. Not having KD might hurt us a lot. Harden will have to switch into MVP mode for us to have any chance.


The entire team was thrown off by what happened. The league basically gift wrapped that game to Toronto.
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