ATL Offseason - Boyle to the Lions

[rilamann]

LOL what

I have a feeling if Aaron Rodgers played in 10 Super Bowls and just won his 7th Super Bowl and also just won his 5th Super Bowl MVP and someone called him the goat, your response wouldn't be LOL what.



You don't have to like Tom Brady, but don't deny his greatness. Bucs were 7-9 last season.

And the Patriots went 1st place in their division every year to 3rd with a 7-9 record. Belichick is overrated.

If Bill Belichick is overrated, that would make Tom Brady underrated.

I do think Belichick is a bit overrated. Not only is Tom Brady a great player, but his leadership and intangibles that he brings to a locker room is lost on a lot of people. I've never heard anyone question Tom Brady's leadership or call him out for not being a great teammate. I don't think it's some sort of coincidence that Brady shows up on a 7-9 Bucs team and leads them to a victory in the Super Bowl in year 1.

[blazza18]

Wish we would have waited to poach from that Bucs defensive staff.

Ditto but waiting on Leftwich for HC,

[kaulkhara15]

Brady’s last two sb’s his defense has allowed ZERO TOUCHDOWNS. That’s effing insane who else can ever have that luxury?

[FAH1223]

I'm not as confident as some of you that we would've won that game. We can't consistently generate pressure with our front 4 like that.

Yeah, I think Packer fans are making a mistake to assume that we would have beat the Chiefs based on what the Bucs just did to them. Bucs have a better defense and Aaron Rodgers is not Tom Brady, at least not when it matters.

I do think we would have had a shot against the Chiefs and it sucks we didn't get the opportunity to find out. But it deff would have been a tougher game for us.

The Chiefs were not ready to play though. If Packers just came out prepared, they win today.

[HKPackFan]

I'm not as confident as some of you that we would've won that game. We can't consistently generate pressure with our front 4 like that.

Yeah, I think Packer fans are making a mistake to assume that we would have beat the Chiefs based on what the Bucs just did to them. Bucs have a better defense and Aaron Rodgers is not Tom Brady, at least not when it matters.

I do think we would have had a shot against the Chiefs and it sucks we didn't get the opportunity to find out. But it deff would have been a tougher game for us.

The Chiefs were not ready to play though. If Packers just came out prepared, they win today.

Agreed.
I think our starting dline could generate significant pressure against a bunch of backup linemen.

Our d would still find a way to give up 20+ points even with their scrub linemen, but Rodgers is getting 35-40pts on that D.

I think we win in our typical 2020 fashion.

Score big early. Hold them a few times.

We go stagnant on offense second half.
They score some points to close the gap some.
We finally get a nice long scoring drive.
Force them to be one dimensional and watch our dline go off and get a bunch of sacks. They get one more score in our prevent but it's too little too late .

[th87]

It's mind blowing to me how Jared **** Cook fumbling the ball completely changed the entire outcome of the playoffs. That's what you call setting off a chain reaction of events. Christ.

Like a (far) lesser version of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand taking a wrong turn.

[th87]

I have a feeling if Aaron Rodgers played in 10 Super Bowls and just won his 7th Super Bowl and also just won his 5th Super Bowl MVP and someone called him the goat, your response wouldn't be LOL what.



You don't have to like Tom Brady, but don't deny his greatness. Bucs were 7-9 last season.

And the Patriots went 1st place in their division every year to 3rd with a 7-9 record. Belichick is overrated.

If Bill Belichick is overrated, that would make Tom Brady underrated.

I do think Belichick is a bit overrated. Not only is Tom Brady a great player, but his leadership and intangibles that he brings to a locker room is lost on a lot of people. I've never heard anyone question Tom Brady's leadership or call him out for not being a great teammate. I don't think it's some sort of coincidence that Brady shows up on a 7-9 Bucs team and leads them to a victory in the Super Bowl in year 1.

Brady is the best in the game at managing tempo and flow. Knew the importance of getting slow and methodical drives to tire out the opposing defense, and to keep his own defense fresh. (Of course, the Packers under MM valued quick strike offenses, which was why teams would come back on us when establishing a lead.)

That said, he's lucky as hell. What if McCree doesn't fumble that interception? What if Lee Evans catches that ball? What if the refs don't call that bs offsides on Ford when Brady threw the game losing interception? And then the Tuck Rule. That's 3-4 titles this close to not happening.

[HKPackFan]

And the Patriots went 1st place in their division every year to 3rd with a 7-9 record. Belichick is overrated.

If Bill Belichick is overrated, that would make Tom Brady underrated.

I do think Belichick is a bit overrated. Not only is Tom Brady a great player, but his leadership and intangibles that he brings to a locker room is lost on a lot of people. I've never heard anyone question Tom Brady's leadership or call him out for not being a great teammate. I don't think it's some sort of coincidence that Brady shows up on a 7-9 Bucs team and leads them to a victory in the Super Bowl in year 1.

Brady is the best in the game at managing tempo and flow. Knew the importance of getting slow and methodical drives to tire out the opposing defense, and to keep his own defense fresh. (Of course, the Packers under MM valued quick strike offenses, which was why teams would come back on us when establishing a lead.)

That said, he's lucky as hell. What if McCree doesn't fumble that interception? What if Lee Evans catches that ball? What if the refs don't call that bs offsides on Ford when Brady threw the game losing interception? And then the Tuck Rule. That's 3-4 titles this close to not happening.

He's been so lucky at so many times. And he always seems to be in the best situation, with an easy afc east path to HFA, to a great oline or a great defense or lucky breaks, a great HC.

But after stacking up all the jewelry, I'm starting to think no matter how lucky he's been with breaks or how fortune his circumstances were, one thing about Brady, if u gave him a chance or a gift, he made you pay.

Defense gets a pick, ref throws a flag and he gets an extra down, Brady will absolutely make you pay. He doesn't waste the good opportunities.

And I clearly saw the difference two weeks ago.

We had one of the greatest offenses in Packers history, and with two 4 quarter picks we gained nothing.

Now I'm blaming the HC for going away from the formula of success of run and play action, and giving all the advantage to the defense by allowing the defense to tee off on Rodgers.

Yet Rodgers takes some blame. He's a three time MVP with a chance to get the game back and he goes 3 and out 3 and out. I think that separates Brady right there.... If Brady gets those two shots, I think we are all saying, we know what comes next. Another come back for Brady and a trip to the owl.

[th87]

If Bill Belichick is overrated, that would make Tom Brady underrated.

I do think Belichick is a bit overrated. Not only is Tom Brady a great player, but his leadership and intangibles that he brings to a locker room is lost on a lot of people. I've never heard anyone question Tom Brady's leadership or call him out for not being a great teammate. I don't think it's some sort of coincidence that Brady shows up on a 7-9 Bucs team and leads them to a victory in the Super Bowl in year 1.

Brady is the best in the game at managing tempo and flow. Knew the importance of getting slow and methodical drives to tire out the opposing defense, and to keep his own defense fresh. (Of course, the Packers under MM valued quick strike offenses, which was why teams would come back on us when establishing a lead.)

That said, he's lucky as hell. What if McCree doesn't fumble that interception? What if Lee Evans catches that ball? What if the refs don't call that bs offsides on Ford when Brady threw the game losing interception? And then the Tuck Rule. That's 3-4 titles this close to not happening.

He's been so lucky at so many times. And he always seems to be in the best situation, with an easy afc east path to HFA, to a great oline or a great defense or lucky breaks, a great HC.

But after stacking up all the jewelry, I'm starting to think no matter how lucky he's been with breaks or how fortune his circumstances were, one thing about Brady, if u gave him a chance or a gift, he made you pay.

Defense gets a pick, ref throws a flag and he gets an extra down, Brady will absolutely make you pay. He doesn't waste the good opportunities.

And I clearly saw the difference two weeks ago.

We had one of the greatest offenses in Packers history, and with two 4 quarter picks we gained nothing.

Now I'm blaming the HC for going away from the formula of success of run and play action, and giving all the advantage to the defense by allowing the defense to tee off on Rodgers.

Yet Rodgers takes some blame. He's a three time MVP with a chance to get the game back and he goes 3 and out 3 and out. I think that separates Brady right there.... If Brady gets those two shots, I think we are all saying, we know what comes next. Another come back for Brady and a trip to the owl.

Facts.

Rodgers tightened up. And he also has the ability to call runs, but decided to go MM 2015 ball. And then not run for the TD. Still among the GOATs, but with the chips down, he's not my choice.

[LikeABosh]

And the Patriots went 1st place in their division every year to 3rd with a 7-9 record. Belichick is overrated.

Is this sarcasm? They went 7-9 with half their team opting out for COVID and a QB who couldn't throw a pass. Belichick is still the GOAT

[Ron Swanson]

Dude at 43 years old just put up a 125.8 QB Rating en route to his 7th championship ring. I don't want to hear jack **** about "luck" when it comes to Tom Brady.

[PintSizedBox10]

Dude at 43 years old just put up a 125.8 QB Rating en route to his 7th championship ring. I don't want to hear jack **** about "luck" when it comes to Tom Brady.

In his past 2 SB appearances the opposing team didn't score a touchdown.

What would you call that?

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[Ron Swanson]

Just stop. I absolutely despise how Tom Brady gets to keep winning Super Bowls but it's embarrassing the lengths to which some people will go to discredit his accomplishments. I don't give two **** how well his defense played. He went 21/29 for 200+ yards, 3 TD's and zero INT's through 2 and a half quarters. Stop acting like this is Peyton Manning playing like complete ass and riding the coat tails of his defense in 2015 with Denver. The offense got whatever they wanted and could have easily put up more than 31 points if they had to.

[MoMM]

Just stop. I absolutely despise how Tom Brady gets to keep winning Super Bowls but it's embarrassing the lengths to which some people will go to discredit his accomplishments. I don't give two **** how well his defense played. He went 21/29 for 200+ yards, 3 TD's and zero INT's through 2 and a half quarters. Stop acting like this is Peyton Manning playing like complete ass and riding the coat tails of his defense in 2015 with Denver. The offense got whatever they wanted and could have easily put up more than 31 points if they had to.

Like they say: "The Harder I Work, the More Luck I Have"

[PintSizedBox10]

Love the people that treat football like a tennis match.

"I don't care what the defense did" says it all.

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[Ron Swanson]

Correct. I don't care what the defense did when the guy in question played nearly flawless football so that he could put his defense in that position in the first place (up big so the pass rushers could pin their ears back all game). It's not that complicated if you simply choose to not be a massive contrarian about everything.

[th87]

Correct. I don't care what the defense did when the guy in question played nearly flawless football so that he could put his defense in that position in the first place (up big so the pass rushers could pin their ears back all game). It's not that complicated if you simply choose to not be a massive contrarian about everything.

You can also be nuanced and objective instead of launching into strawman fallacies. No one disputes Brady is the GOAT, and he's also been fortunate in his circumstances. Both things can be true.

[RubberSoul]

Why can’t Brady be great and lucky?

If Packers go 3 and out in their first two possessions in the super bowl they are down two possessions and the entire game changes. Since 2010 the Packers need Rodgers to be peak Rodgers to win playoff games. Sometimes he has been sometimes not. Unfortunately for him if he’s not perfect they lose. He was good in NFC Championship but not perfect. I do put a lot of blame on him for 14 NFC Championship no way Brady loses a playoff game where his defense forces 5 turnovers.

Brady is extremely lucky to have had the defenses he’s had in his career. He’s allowed to make mistakes and not be perfect. Having said that he’s clearly a great player and has been for damn near two decades and it pisses me off. He’s the GOAT his resume will never be approached even. I fully expect Tampa to repeat and maybe threepeat at this point their division is now garbage so they’ll have HFA going forward. I’m convinced if he went to Detroit they’d win it all. I’d say he probably has at least another 2 super bowls in him could definitely see him getting to 10 overall.


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[WeekapaugGroove]

Im no Brady fan and hell I think there's something creepy about the dude off the field (like wouldn't shock me if post retirement he starts a cult or some weird **** like that). But at this point when it comes to on the field success he's the GOAT, 7 **** SBs is ridiculous.

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[tski1972]

To think the stupid tuck rule led to all of this.