Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

[molepharmer]

Goes to show that if you have no offensive line, it doesn't matter who the QB is. Mahomes, however, also tends to run into trouble.

This game was won at the line of scrimmage, like most games. TB O-line allowed them to run the ball and their four D-linemen were enough to pressure Mahomes. Bears priority should be to fix their O-line and not put some re-tred QB behind a questionable line, with a second-rate receiving corp.

[ATRAIN53]

Mahomes totally looking like Trubisky out there last night.

Lineman never get credit for being good UNTIL they are out and your QB is scrambling.

Bucs totally wanted it more. His motivation to stick it to Belichick was palpable. He knew winning it without him makes him look like the reason they won 6.

and that's a sobering thought that I'll likely never see a QB as good as Brady the rest of my life. I'm almost 50 so seeing a different guy win 8 SB just isn't gonna happen before I die.

I really wonder how close or if he even considered Chicago. I've heard rumors it was on the table.

I'm already ready for Rodgers V Brady the NFC rematch and this same SB next year!

Hope some of you guys won $$$$ on squares or bets-

[Susan]

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[Mbrahv0528]

Mahomes totally looking like Trubisky out there last night.

Lineman never get credit for being good UNTIL they are out and your QB is scrambling.

Bucs totally wanted it more. His motivation to stick it to Belichick was palpable. He knew winning it without him makes him look like the reason they won 6.

and that's a sobering thought that I'll likely never see a QB as good as Brady the rest of my life. I'm almost 50 so seeing a different guy win 8 SB just isn't gonna happen before I die.

I really wonder how close or if he even considered Chicago. I've heard rumors it was on the table.

I'm already ready for Rodgers V Brady the NFC rematch and this same SB next year!

Hope some of you guys won $$$$ on squares or bets-

What? We already have a better quarterback that was directly opposite of him in Patrick Mahomes.

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[patryk7754]

So apparently Russell Wilson just said he’s not sure if he’s available or not when asked about his future with the seahawks on the Dan Patrick show. I just read a quote so I don’t know the context of the conversation

[Jimako10]

Goes to show that if you have no offensive line, it doesn't matter who the QB is. Mahomes, however, also tends to run into trouble.

This game was won at the line of scrimmage, like most games. TB O-line allowed them to run the ball and their four D-linemen were enough to pressure Mahomes. Bears priority should be to fix their O-line and not put some re-tred QB behind a questionable line, with a second-rate receiving corp.

It's exactly what happened to Rodgers as well. He lost his all-world LT Bahtkiari and TB was able to pressure with 4 pretty easily. Hell even Brady lost to Giants because they were able to pressure with just 4 as well.

Philly's entire O-line was basically injured this past season, which IMO makes Wentz less of a gamble due to the fact that he's got a pretty good track record when he actually has a healthy and good O-Line. What I'm more worried about is the ability of the Bears being able to put a good O-line together.

[dice]

Mahomes totally looking like Trubisky out there last night.

Lineman never get credit for being good UNTIL they are out and your QB is scrambling.

Bucs totally wanted it more. His motivation to stick it to Belichick was palpable. He knew winning it without him makes him look like the reason they won 6.

and that's a sobering thought that I'll likely never see a QB as good as Brady the rest of my life. I'm almost 50 so seeing a different guy win 8 SB just isn't gonna happen before I die.

I really wonder how close or if he even considered Chicago. I've heard rumors it was on the table.

I'm already ready for Rodgers V Brady the NFC rematch and this same SB next year!

Hope some of you guys won $$$$ on squares or bets-

What? We already have a better quarterback that was directly opposite of him in Patrick Mahomes.

mahomes is certainly a lot more talented. a lot of guys are. but brady has been maximizing his talents for over 20 years now, with no end in sight. if mahomes can do the same over the long haul, then he may well be considered BETTER than brady when all is said and done

[TheStig]

What's it take to get Watson here? Bears should just do it if it's just picks.

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What's it take to get Watson here? Bears should just do it if it's just picks.

Its not though. Its also enough money to fund a small country. In a salary cap league, how much faith in this organization to build a team of necessarily smaller contracts and lower picks around him? Not that this iteration of Bears FO have been able use first rounders to a competent level anyway, but...

[CjayC]

What's it take to get Watson here? Bears should just do it if it's just picks.

Picks + Quality starters are what they're looking for allegedly.

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Makes sense. He's coming off a career low and an all time worst type of season for modern QBs, Philly is in cap hell and he's due a 10 million bonus, he's rumored to want out as well. If he doesn't get out my God it's gonna be a circus show in Philly this year.

It's ridiculous that Philly would think they'd get a King's ransom for essentially a reclamation project. Yes he's had some great seasons in the past, yeah he had a depleted line and WR group, but you're only as good as what we last saw.

[TheStig]

What's it take to get Watson here? Bears should just do it if it's just picks.

Its not though. Its also enough money to fund a small country. In a salary cap league, how much faith in this organization to build a team of necessarily smaller contracts and lower picks around him? Not that this iteration of Bears FO have been able use first rounders to a competent level anyway, but...

Well I figured we'd be able to keep the defense and "weapons". Don't Foles and Turbisky make nearly as much as Watson? I'm sure you could dump those two.

[fleet]

What's it take to get Watson here? Bears should just do it if it's just picks.

Its not though. Its also enough money to fund a small country. In a salary cap league, how much faith in this organization to build a team of necessarily smaller contracts and lower picks around him? Not that this iteration of Bears FO have been able use first rounders to a competent level anyway, but...

Well I figured we'd be able to keep the defense and "weapons". Don't Foles and Turbisky make nearly as much as Watson? I'm sure you could dump those two.

Foles is under contract I think for this season. 4 million base salary, 8 million signing bonus for 2020

Watson Average Salary: $39,000,000
Free Agent: 2026 / UFA
Contract: 4 yr(s) / $156,000,000

[TheStig]

Its not though. Its also enough money to fund a small country. In a salary cap league, how much faith in this organization to build a team of necessarily smaller contracts and lower picks around him? Not that this iteration of Bears FO have been able use first rounders to a competent level anyway, but...

Well I figured we'd be able to keep the defense and "weapons". Don't Foles and Turbisky make nearly as much as Watson? I'm sure you could dump those two.

Foles is under contract I think for this season. 4 million base salary, 8 million signing bonus for 2020

Watson Average Salary: $39,000,000
Free Agent: 2026 / UFA
Contract: 4 yr(s) / $156,000,000

Oh I forgot they restructured his deal and Mitch's option declined.

[DuckIII]

Mahomes totally looking like Trubisky out there last night.

Lineman never get credit for being good UNTIL they are out and your QB is scrambling.

Bucs totally wanted it more. His motivation to stick it to Belichick was palpable. He knew winning it without him makes him look like the reason they won 6.

and that's a sobering thought that I'll likely never see a QB as good as Brady the rest of my life. I'm almost 50 so seeing a different guy win 8 SB just isn't gonna happen before I die.

I really wonder how close or if he even considered Chicago. I've heard rumors it was on the table.

I'm already ready for Rodgers V Brady the NFC rematch and this same SB next year!

Hope some of you guys won $$$$ on squares or bets-

What? We already have a better quarterback that was directly opposite of him in Patrick Mahomes.

mahomes is certainly a lot more talented. a lot of guys are. but brady has been maximizing his talents for over 20 years now, with no end in sight. if mahomes can do the same over the long haul, then he may well be considered BETTER than brady when all is said and done

It all depends on how you structure the discussion. Brady is the most accomplished and successful quarterback in NFL history and it’s highly likely that he always will be. His team accomplishments are mind boggling. When you compare that success to others, it’s like looking at Babe Ruth stats.

If you are talking who the most talented and “best” quarterbacks are, it’s not Brady. It’s already Mahomes and it’s not close. No quarterback in the history of the NFL has ever played the position at the level Mahomes has already played it. If you are talking about peak play, he’s already the greatest of all time.

But will he play until he’s in his mid-40s and have all the things fall into place properly to be able to challenge Brady’s career team-oriented accomplishments? I’d bet that has almost no chance of happening. But he’s already the “best” to ever play. Which is bonkers.

[Dresden]

I like the idea of Wentz. At least he's shown he can be a top flight QB, unlike Mitch. And if the Bears can get him for a decent price, and can then build around him, I think that's not a bad plan. Better than mortgaging your entire future to get Watson.

[Susan]

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