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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1641 » by wackbone » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:39 am

Laimbeer wrote:I liked the six franchise championship rings game - could we do that with RealGM titles won by players, have a total limit? Or was that done?

We have done something similar with RealGM titles. It was interesting. Don't you remember that Document with all the different tabs and things? It was a hard one to keep track of. But we could run it back or something similar. Would just need to update that document
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1642 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:00 am

wackbone wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I liked the six franchise championship rings game - could we do that with RealGM titles won by players, have a total limit? Or was that done?

We have done something similar with RealGM titles. It was interesting. Don't you remember that Document with all the different tabs and things? It was a hard one to keep track of. But we could run it back or something similar. Would just need to update that document


I think we just allowed players with three or less, something like that. No total count. I found one that's a little old but we could use it, even if imperfect.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1643 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:01 am

I started a game at the same time as wack but deleted it, it was all players have to be from the same division except for one exception.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1644 » by migya » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:29 am

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migya wrote:Interesting one would be each participant gets a franchise, among the franchises that existed since the merger, and players picked must have played more games in their career with that franchise than any other. eg. Jason Kidd played 506 games for Nets and 500 for Dallas so he belongs to Nets.

No restrictions.

A handful of franchises would completely dominate that one. No way could the Nets for example compete with the Spurs (Duncan, Robinson, Kawhi, Manu) or the Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Magic).



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Post#1645 » by DerrickNoah » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:30 pm

Maybe we are at the point where all draft games either don’t use Lebron or teams that draft him get some type of a disadvantage, like he always counts +5 FGA’s. “The Lebron Clause” Thoughts?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1646 » by Laimbeer » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:58 pm

DerrickNoah wrote:Maybe we are at the point where all draft games either don’t use Lebron or teams that draft him get some type of a disadvantage, like he always counts +5 FGA’s. “The Lebron Clause” Thoughts?


I did like it, tbh. I'd include Mike in other games, but I'd draw a hard line there. Wouldn't want to get into handicapping the entire first round.

FGA count aside, do people prefer Mike over LeBron in a vacuum? I don't think so. Maybe ban them or charge 25-30 fga's for some games. Will probably depend on the mood of the commish.

They'd still go high. Would be fun to see who bites first, and suddenly the top picks aren't damn near automatic.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1647 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:48 pm

I’ll probably just ban Lebron next game I start, not as big a fan of the tax idea.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1648 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 1, 2021 12:15 am

How about a matching first name pairs draft - we did a matching last name pairs draft a few months back.

Fadeaway_J wrote:...

Dr Positivity wrote:...

wackbone wrote:...

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migya wrote:...
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1649 » by migya » Mon Feb 1, 2021 1:55 am

Laimbeer wrote:How about a matching first name pairs draft - we did a matching last name pairs draft a few months back.

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wackbone wrote:...

DerrickNoah wrote:...

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I'd rather something more basketball based, like one allstar big and one small, other three starters actual starters in chosen season and bench players actual bench players chosen season.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1650 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 8, 2021 3:20 pm

How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.
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Post#1651 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 8, 2021 4:40 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.

Alternate version of this could be a pairs draft with players linked by the same coach.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1652 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 8, 2021 5:49 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.

Alternate version of this could be a pairs draft with players linked by the same coach.


Sounds like a lot of legwork. Does any place have all players for a given coach?

I do think it's better as a non-draft game if done.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1653 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 8, 2021 6:04 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.

Alternate version of this could be a pairs draft with players linked by the same coach.


Sounds like a lot of legwork. Does any place have all players for a given coach?

I do think it's better as a non-draft game if done.

When you bring up a coach on BR, it lists all the teams he coached and in what seasons. After playing hundreds of games, most of us should be able to use that information alone to identify a good number of players.

The pairs version would be fairly simple.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1654 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:17 am

The problem I am finding with this idea is that (stop me if you've heard this before) the LeBron pair would be so overpowered.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1655 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:08 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.


Seems like Jackson and Popovich are the only two choices there
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1656 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:17 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.


Seems like Jackson and Popovich are the only two choices there

Like I said, there would have to be restrictions of some kind. Even a guy like Billy Donovan could give you a loaded team though.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1657 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:30 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:How about you draft a coach and then pick only players who played for said coach?

Some restrictions would probably be needed, but a lot of fairly nondescript coaches have had some pretty damn good players. The downside could be a lack of player overlap which would reduce the suspense as the draft progresses.

Might be better as a non-draft game.


Seems like Jackson and Popovich are the only two choices there

Like I said, there would have to be restrictions of some kind. Even a guy like Billy Donovan could give you a loaded team though.


Doc is pretty stacked as well. I think Jordan/Shaq would have to be not allowed somehow though
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1658 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:29 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
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Seems like Jackson and Popovich are the only two choices there

Like I said, there would have to be restrictions of some kind. Even a guy like Billy Donovan could give you a loaded team though.


Doc is pretty stacked as well. I think Jordan/Shaq would have to be not allowed somehow though

What about just banning championship winning coaches altogether?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1659 » by Laimbeer » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:30 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:The problem I am finding with this idea is that (stop me if you've heard this before) the LeBron pair would be so overpowered.


I'd prefer pairs with a restriction like only one MVP/multiple first player. An interesting twist may be they can't have played for the coach together.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1660 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:34 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:The problem I am finding with this idea is that (stop me if you've heard this before) the LeBron pair would be so overpowered.


I'd prefer pairs with a restriction like only one MVP/multiple first player. An interesting twist may be they can't have played for the coach together.

Yeah I'm leaning that way as well, but the issue is someone getting LeBron-PG or LeBron-Butler starts out with a pretty big advantage. That's why I suggested banning championship winning coaches as they seem to have a lot of the OP pairings.

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