Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[clyde21]

Offensively yes. Defensively its one of the best supporting casts in the league and they play much better on that end without him on the floor.

Overall many superstars have had to deal with worse casts and led them to comfortable playoff position at least

lol what? you're talking about the same team with WIGGINS as its best defender so far this year?

Draymond is the teams best defender. Top 10 defense in the league that plays at a top 3 level with Steph off the floor sounds elite defensively to me

Draymond, Bazemore, Looney, Wiggins, Mulder, Jta, Oubre. Wiggins is having a good defensive season and theyre deep on that end. Wiseman is inconsistent but has flashes of great defense too

Wanamaker is one of the best backup defensive Pgs too and Ive seen him play for a while in Boston so its not surprising it isnt scheme

wait, your "proof" that the Warriors have the best defensive cast is listing guys like Wanamaker, Toscano-Anderson, Mulder and Looney? let's be honest here, you never actually heard of Toscano-Anderson and Mulder before this year, huh? and the only reason you know who Wanamaker is is because he was on the Celts last year.

and Dray hasn't been the same defender since about 2016...welcome to 2021.

[GSP]

lol what? you're talking about the same team with WIGGINS as its best defender so far this year?

Draymond is the teams best defender. Top 10 defense in the league that plays at a top 3 level with Steph off the floor sounds elite defensively to me

Draymond, Bazemore, Looney, Wiggins, Mulder, Jta, Oubre. Wiggins is having a good defensive season and theyre deep on that end. Wiseman is inconsistent but has flashes of great defense too

Wanamaker is one of the best backup defensive Pgs too and Ive seen him play for a while in Boston so its not surprising it isnt scheme

wait, your "proof" that the Warriors have the best defensive cast is listing guys like Wanamaker, Toscano-Anderson, Mulder and Looney? let's be honest here, you never actually heard of Toscano-Anderson and Mulder before this year, huh? and the only reason you know who Wanamaker is is because he was on the Celts last year.

and Dray hasn't been our best defender in like 3 years. welcome to 2021.

Looney is one of the best switch defending bigs in the league and arguably the best defender on Anthony Davis. A very strong post defender too. Why you acting like hes a scrub? He was big for you guys against Houston defensively in the playoffs

I didnt hear of Jta but I did hear of Mulder last season during the Raptors game when Steph came back

Whos been better than Draymond on the team the past 3 years???

And Wanamaker was with us for 2 seasons theres a reason we resigned him b/c of his activity level and great anticipation on defense. We didnt bring him back b/c the Fo was really high on Pritchard and with his play this season cant blame them

Just b/c he isnt on the level of his peak defense doesnt mean he still isnt clearly the best defender on the team

I can read. And I read you call Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, 19 year old James Wiseman, 2021 Draymond (who is still effective and gets too much grief here, but isn’t what he was), Eric Paschall, etc. one of the best defensive supporting casts in the league.

They have a 107.1 defensive rating in 340 minutes with Steph off the floor which would be good for the best non Lakers defense in the league. Theyve been top 10 defensively for a while now and have been better after Jta has started recently too all while Steph is a bad defender or very below average at best. Sounds like an elite defensive supporting cast to me def one of the best in the league based on what theyve been doing so far with Draymond back whos still one of the best defenders in the Nba

Dude, stop it.

You’re calling a team made up of Juan Tuscano-Anderson, Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, Eric Paschall, and an (injured) 19 year old who played 3 NCAA games before jumping to the NBA w/o training camp “elite defensively.”

Read that again.

Youre going by preemptive name valuing and Im going by actual oncourt results so yeah

[clyde21]

GSP just walk it back my man, that was an absurd take you don't need to do this, you already had plenty in this thread

[Big J]

I can read. And I read you call Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, 19 year old James Wiseman, 2021 Draymond (who is still effective and gets too much grief here, but isn’t what he was), Eric Paschall, etc. one of the best defensive supporting casts in the league.

They have a 107.1 defensive rating in 340 minutes with Steph off the floor which would be good for the best non Lakers defense in the league. Theyve been top 10 defensively for a while now and have been better after Jta has started recently too all while Steph is a bad defender or very below average at best. Sounds like an elite defensive supporting cast to me def one of the best in the league based on what theyve been doing so far with Draymond back whos still one of the best defenders in the Nba

Dude, stop it.

You’re calling a team made up of Juan Tuscano-Anderson, Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, Eric Paschall, and an (injured) 19 year old who played 3 NCAA games before jumping to the NBA w/o training camp “elite defensively.”

Read that again.

The lengths that people will go to discredit this man astound me.

[rtiff68]

Draymond is the teams best defender. Top 10 defense in the league that plays at a top 3 level with Steph off the floor sounds elite defensively to me

Draymond, Bazemore, Looney, Wiggins, Mulder, Jta, Oubre. Wiggins is having a good defensive season and theyre deep on that end. Wiseman is inconsistent but has flashes of great defense too

Wanamaker is one of the best backup defensive Pgs too and Ive seen him play for a while in Boston so its not surprising it isnt scheme

wait, your "proof" that the Warriors have the best defensive cast is listing guys like Wanamaker, Toscano-Anderson, Mulder and Looney?

and Dray hasn't been our best defender in like 3 years. welcome to 2021.

Whos been better than Draymond on the team the past 3 years???

Just b/c he isnt on the level of his peak defense doesnt mean he still isnt clearly the best defender on the team

They have a 107.1 defensive rating in 340 minutes with Steph off the floor which would be good for the best non Lakers defense in the league. Theyve been top 10 defensively for a while now and have been better after Jta has started recently too all while Steph is a bad defender or very below average at best. Sounds like an elite defensive supporting cast to me def one of the best in the league based on what theyve been doing so far with Draymond back whos still one of the best defenders in the Nba

Dude, stop it.

You’re calling a team made up of Juan Tuscano-Anderson, Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, Eric Paschall, and an (injured) 19 year old who played 3 NCAA games before jumping to the NBA w/o training camp “elite defensively.”

Read that again.

Youre going by preemptive name valuing and Im going by actual oncourt results so yeah

I’m not going by preemptive name value, I’m going with reality and common sense.

I am officially done with this silly thread. It’s been dumb from the start, but arguing that this Warriors defensive supporting cast is “elite” is the apex of stupidity.

Have the last word. You win.

[clyde21]

lmao this dude legit just named Mychal Mulder, Juan Toscano-Anderson and Brad Wanamaker

[hongdayuan]

I don’t know if curry has been exposed, but a lotta posters have been.

[Big J]

The sad thing is that these people truly believed that Curry would be trash without stars surrounding him because that is what they have been fed by Lebron mouthpieces in the media for years.

[SF_Warriors]

Taking out their centers has helped a lot as well. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup.

They came in 1-3 since wiseman got injured. Its nice having the option to go bigger if needed

[floppymoose]

[cpower]

Taking out their centers has helped a lot as well. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup.

They came in 1-3 since wiseman got injured. Its nice having the option to go bigger if needed

the key is not wiseman but looney

[warriorschamps]

Yeah Steph has been exposed...as the most skilled player to ever play in the NBA. But not really because we already knew that.

Watch on YouTube

[TinmanZBoy]

the title should be changed now
"Stephen Curry has exposed haters"

[SF_Warriors]

Draymond is the teams best defender. Top 10 defense in the league that plays at a top 3 level with Steph off the floor sounds elite defensively to me

Draymond, Bazemore, Looney, Wiggins, Mulder, Jta, Oubre. Wiggins is having a good defensive season and theyre deep on that end. Wiseman is inconsistent but has flashes of great defense too

Wanamaker is one of the best backup defensive Pgs too and Ive seen him play for a while in Boston so its not surprising it isnt scheme

wait, your "proof" that the Warriors have the best defensive cast is listing guys like Wanamaker, Toscano-Anderson, Mulder and Looney? let's be honest here, you never actually heard of Toscano-Anderson and Mulder before this year, huh? and the only reason you know who Wanamaker is is because he was on the Celts last year.

and Dray hasn't been our best defender in like 3 years. welcome to 2021.

Looney is one of the best switch defending bigs in the league and arguably the best defender on Anthony Davis. A very strong post defender too. Why you acting like hes a scrub? He was big for you guys against Houston defensively in the playoffs

I didnt hear of Jta but I did hear of Mulder last season during the Raptors game when Steph came back

Whos been better than Draymond on the team the past 3 years???

And Wanamaker was with us for 2 seasons theres a reason we resigned him b/c of his activity level and great anticipation on defense. We didnt bring him back b/c the Fo was really high on Pritchard and with his play this season cant blame them

Just b/c he isnt on the level of his peak defense doesnt mean he still isnt clearly the best defender on the team

They have a 107.1 defensive rating in 340 minutes with Steph off the floor which would be good for the best non Lakers defense in the league. Theyve been top 10 defensively for a while now and have been better after Jta has started recently too all while Steph is a bad defender or very below average at best. Sounds like an elite defensive supporting cast to me def one of the best in the league based on what theyve been doing so far with Draymond back whos still one of the best defenders in the Nba

Dude, stop it.

You’re calling a team made up of Juan Tuscano-Anderson, Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre, Eric Paschall, and an (injured) 19 year old who played 3 NCAA games before jumping to the NBA w/o training camp “elite defensively.”

Read that again.

Youre going by preemptive name valuing and Im going by actual oncourt results so yeah

The guys you are naming like looney, baze, jta, wanamaker and mulder are average to below average back ups. Wiggins is one of the worst second options in the league. You are right that the warriors do have a solid defensive team on paper, but some of these guys you are naming are not better than guys on other teams playing the same roles.

I agree the supporting cast isnt terrible. Its obviously not that great either, but its enough to at least be one that a good enough player can get to the playoffs with.

[dhsilv2]

Odd the warriors ARE a top 10 defense at the moment...schedule might be a factor. Guys like Looney are good defenders...what's the issue here? That said the team's defense lives and breaths from Dray's leadership and it seems the coaches are actually making a difference in defense...maybe Kerr's doing his job?

[SF_Warriors]

Taking out their centers has helped a lot as well. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup.

They came in 1-3 since wiseman got injured. Its nice having the option to go bigger if needed

the key is not wiseman but looney

Give me both..they each bring something to the table but also different weaknesses. Wiseman has had some pretty solid games as well. Having neither absolutely sucks

[SF_Warriors]

[quote="dhsilv2"]Odd the warriors ARE a top 10 defense at the moment...schedule might be a factor. Guys like Looney are good defenders...what's the issue here? That said the team's defense lives and breaths from Dray's leadership and it seems the coaches are actually making a difference in defense...maybe Kerr's doing his job?[/quote]

Offensively they are average to below average..19th in ortg, 13th in efg, 17th tov%. Its just hard to be a strong offense with wiggins as the #2. Its not like the warriors are top 5 defense good ( ie dominant) although top 10 is not too bad.

Defensively, they are near the bottom in rebounding and fts allowed

The reason why they are good defensively is that they are very mobile around the perimeter especially with looney as center.

[xdrta+]

Who cares about their defense, I want to hear some more about how Curry has been "totally exposed." Ya know, like the title of the thread. C'mon guys, where are you?

[dhsilv2]

Odd the warriors ARE a top 10 defense at the moment...schedule might be a factor. Guys like Looney are good defenders...what's the issue here? That said the team's defense lives and breaths from Dray's leadership and it seems the coaches are actually making a difference in defense...maybe Kerr's doing his job?

Offensively they are average to below average..19th in ortg, 13th in efg, 17th tov%. Its just hard to be a strong offense with wiggins as the #2. Its not like the warriors are top 5 defense good ( ie dominant) although top 10 is not too bad.

Defensively, they are near the bottom in rebounding and fts allowed

The reason why they are good defensively is that they are very mobile around the perimeter especially with looney as center.

I'd agree. I also think the coaches have worked magic to make Wiggins a plus on that end. To be honest, I'm perplexed why we don't see more of Looney, he's been one of the bright spots over the years for them. I really thought he was rounding himself into a quality starter.

[Peregrine01]

Odd the warriors ARE a top 10 defense at the moment...schedule might be a factor. Guys like Looney are good defenders...what's the issue here? That said the team's defense lives and breaths from Dray's leadership and it seems the coaches are actually making a difference in defense...maybe Kerr's doing his job?

Top 10 might be misleading. Their DRTG is just 1 point above league average.