Thoughts on Nash so far?

[Openheimer]

Dantoni is a damn good coach. Just make it official

[Gooner]

Nash just isn't going to cut it. Marks has done well for the most part, but I think he may have screwed up with the most important part of a championship caliber team and that's with the coach. There's some positives with Nash, but the negatives just stand out too much. And there really isn't much progress.

And TBH I'm not really feeling MDA either.

KD wanted Nash and there was nothing Marks could do about it.

[MrDollarBills]

The personnel problem far outweighs what Nash is doing as a coach.

-no defensive wings

-no rebounding and consistent shot blocking

-awful depth. TLC is a G leaguer. Shamet is struggling. The rest aren't worth playing.

Nash can play DJ for 30 mins and the dude will still watch defensive rebounds bounce right by him.

This roster is top heavy and what was left after the trade poorly compliments our star players. Whose job is that to fix it?

[Suwanee]

Did Nash give up after 3 quarters? Sixers were up by 15 or so. That was a big lead, but not insurmountable. But Nash never played Harden 1 minute in the 4th.

It probably didn’t matter even if Harden played. But giving up so easily isn’t what I’d like to see from the players, much less the head coach.

So far Nash hasn’t done anything that really impressed me. I think he needs to go.

[therealbig3]

Our team really reminds me of the first year of the big 3 Heat but without the defensive ability: a top heavy team that has no depth and has to play a bunch of scrubs next to their stars. We’ll win games because of the talent of our stars, but it’ll be ugly a lot of the time, and there will be frustrating losses.

It’s not a coaching issue, it’s a personnel issue.

[Prokorov]

The personnel problem far outweighs what Nash is doing as a coach.

-no defensive wings

-no rebounding and consistent shot blocking

-awful depth. TLC is a G leaguer. Shamet is struggling. The rest aren't worth playing.

Nash can play DJ for 30 mins and the dude will still watch defensive rebounds bounce right by him.

This roster is top heavy and what was left after the trade poorly compliments our star players. Whose job is that to fix it?

if you gave the nets the 2nd worst coach in the leauge we would have 3-4 more wins.

I wouldnt let nash coach my daughter play 1 on 1 vs the neighborhood kid on their fisher price hoop

[thekorean]

He has to go. Kyrie was right about him.

[Whiskey Slick]

I would be the first to criticize Nash if I thought he deserved it, but IMO this is on the players more than the coaches. This team is loaded with veterans, guys who have seen it all and done it all. Honestly, they shouldn't even need to be coached. If they just came out every game, regardless of the opposition, determined to crush the other team, and that means playing every second of every game like it's a Game 7. if they came out and started EVERY GAME with that intensity then never took their foot off the gas, they wouldn't be in this mess regardless of X's and O's. They would be demolishing bad teams.

That said, this team has slept-walked thru so many 1st Quarters I've lost count. Like I said earlier, it's been like the movie 'Groundhog Day' and tonight was more of the same.

Lastly, Kyrie has an incredibly high basketball IQ and he's just a smart guy in general, and he made so many good points in tonights press conference, none of which had to do with coaching. For one thing, he pointed out how it's surreal the way at least one guy plays against the Nets every game. It's like EVERY GAME you can pick a guy who shoots 30% from 3, and suddenly, VERSES US, he's hitting 80 or 90% of his 3's. It's been happening all year and I've never seen anything like it. If you really watched Kyrie closely when he talked about this, HE'S NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT EITHER. I mean, once in awhile, okay, but this has been happening to the Nets ALL YEAR. EVERY GAME some Joe Average turns into Reggie Miller from 3.

I know we're going to get every teams best shot and I already said we have to pick up the intensity. Kyrie knows it to and he talked about that as well. But EVERY GAME some JAG (Just Another Guy) turns into vintage Reggie Miller verses the Nets. I've never seen anything like it. Kyrie has seen a lot more basketball than me and HE has never seen anything like it either!

Lastly, I agree with him that it seems like we're being targeted by the refs and league. Wait, let me guess, Durant is STILL testing negative for Covid everyday, but they won't let him out of basketball Gitmo.

[zimpy27]

Our team really reminds me of the first year of the big 3 Heat but without the defensive ability: a top heavy team that has no depth and has to play a bunch of scrubs next to their stars. We’ll win games because of the talent of our stars, but it’ll be ugly a lot of the time, and there will be frustrating losses.

It’s not a coaching issue, it’s a personnel issue.

It's personnel, the players have even indicated that coaching was going to be pretty hands-off because that's what they wanted.

It's very similar to the big 3 in Miami. I would say Harris and Jordan are better than what they had but also the Heat big 3 were better two-way players. It really came down to having poos support players and depth for them during season.

However, in playoffs, they still got the finals. They lost the finals because LeBron wasn't taking over the game. Id' be worried about Harden/KD not taking over from Kyrie on this team. Takes a little while for an in-team hierarchy to be established.

[Prokorov]

Nash has to be fired. Period.

I dont want to hear about personnel. i dont want to hear about depth. I dont want to hear about lack of bigs. I dont want to hear about lack of defense. i dont want to hear about KD missing time

When the worst team in the entire league, with the worst FG percentage in the league dominates you wire to wire you simply are not getting it done as a coach. The pistons are a team we should beat with a lineup of chiozza/TJ/TLC/Perry/Pelle. Let alone with James Harden. And we were coming off 2 awful losses so this wasnt some trap game.

Nash needs to do better then "we need to do better defensively". there is ZERO game plan. the pistons should be shut down in your sleep. force the ball out of grants hands. the dont have another offense creater on the roster. make ellington put it on the floor and chase him off the line. thats it. but instead its lazy drop coverage and switch everything.

We got DESTROYED in the first. whats nashs first sub? put TLC in for harris. not brown, not shumpert. Shumpert didnt play again, despite us needing D desperately. We continue to go small when we are bleeding second chance points. We turn it over a ton but 0 emphasis on ball protection.

If you cant find a way to beat the pistons with Kyrie/Harden they you flat out suck as a coach period.

-he inspires no way
-it is chrystal clear the team doesnt want to play hard for him, because he doesnt care
-he has ZERO gameplan
-he minimizes every single player on his team by playing to their weakness and ignoring their strength
-he goes small when we already cant rebound
-he plays 5 offensive players when we already struggle to defend

we would have 2 to 3 more wins if me and MDB coached the team, let alone someone who is actually an NBA level coach.

It is disgusting. it is getting worse not better. Nash needs to be fired. and if he isnt, then marks needs to be fired and the new GM needs to fire nash. Tsai needs to get involved and our big 3 need to force nash out.

[Prokorov]

Our team really reminds me of the first year of the big 3 Heat but without the defensive ability: a top heavy team that has no depth and has to play a bunch of scrubs next to their stars. We’ll win games because of the talent of our stars, but it’ll be ugly a lot of the time, and there will be frustrating losses.

It’s not a coaching issue, it’s a personnel issue.

It's personnel, the players have even indicated that coaching was going to be pretty hands-off because that's what they wanted.

It's very similar to the big 3 in Miami. I would say Harris and Jordan are better than what they had but also the Heat big 3 were better two-way players. It really came down to having poos support players and depth for them during season.

However, in playoffs, they still got the finals. They lost the finals because LeBron wasn't taking over the game. Id' be worried about Harden/KD not taking over from Kyrie on this team. Takes a little while for an in-team hierarchy to be established.

im not buying that its personel. you think we have no depth? the pistons have like 13 d-leaguers and scrubs up and down their lineup.

[zimpy27]

Our team really reminds me of the first year of the big 3 Heat but without the defensive ability: a top heavy team that has no depth and has to play a bunch of scrubs next to their stars. We’ll win games because of the talent of our stars, but it’ll be ugly a lot of the time, and there will be frustrating losses.

It’s not a coaching issue, it’s a personnel issue.

It's personnel, the players have even indicated that coaching was going to be pretty hands-off because that's what they wanted.

It's very similar to the big 3 in Miami. I would say Harris and Jordan are better than what they had but also the Heat big 3 were better two-way players. It really came down to having poos support players and depth for them during season.

However, in playoffs, they still got the finals. They lost the finals because LeBron wasn't taking over the game. Id' be worried about Harden/KD not taking over from Kyrie on this team. Takes a little while for an in-team hierarchy to be established.

im not buying that its personel. you think we have no depth? the pistons have like 13 d-leaguers and scrubs up and down their lineup.

Not enough depth is a relatively broad statement. More specifically, not enough support players that balance the weaknesses and strengths of the big 3.

[Prokorov]

It's personnel, the players have even indicated that coaching was going to be pretty hands-off because that's what they wanted.

It's very similar to the big 3 in Miami. I would say Harris and Jordan are better than what they had but also the Heat big 3 were better two-way players. It really came down to having poos support players and depth for them during season.

However, in playoffs, they still got the finals. They lost the finals because LeBron wasn't taking over the game. Id' be worried about Harden/KD not taking over from Kyrie on this team. Takes a little while for an in-team hierarchy to be established.

im not buying that its personel. you think we have no depth? the pistons have like 13 d-leaguers and scrubs up and down their lineup.

Not enough depth is a relatively broad statement. More specifically, not enough support players that balance the weaknesses and strengths of the big 3.

I'm not trying to hear any kind of nonsense about "fit" or "support weaknesses" when you get blown out start to finish by the worst team in the league and giving up 120 points to them when they are also the worst offense in the league... and this coming off 2 losses as well, so there was a need for urgency.

if we were losing to the celtics, the jazz, the lakers, the heat, the clippers... sure. talk to me about depth or fit.

there is no reason to get run off the floor by the pistons. thats not a depth thing or a fit thing

[Iceberg_Slim]

We do lack a level of personnel. The bench is terrible. Spencer’s contract not being on the team is huge. DJ, even at 18mpg, might be cooked.
However we went under screens and forced a lot of midrange floaters. We kept transition scoring down. We kept offensive rebounds and 2nd chance points.

We gave up 58 points in the paint. End all be all that’s the last problem. Last hurdle is finding 48 minutes of paint protection. Also the most important aspect of defense.

[Paradise]

Downgrade Nash to an F-- after this game.

He is just a terrible coach. i know he is a good manager of egos and maybe the stars like him. but he just has no clue what he is doing. D'antoni or Vaughn need to take the reigns if he is going to stay on as a puppet coach.

For someone who has been calling out people for so long for being overemotional and knee jerk, this is sure as hell ironic

You were saying? we’re almost tied with the Knicks. We went from competing for 1st place for being nearly 5 games back. Just like that.

I think everyone’s feel for Nash is stronger than his feel for the game of professional basketball.

Nobody thinks he’s a terrible basketball mind or he doesn’t have potential but he skipped the line over guys who could’ve been useful with experience in a HC position. Period. Obviously, we didn’t come into this situation expecting a 3rd star but this is also on Joe Tsai, Marks for hiring a guy with no experience.

We gave up on Vaughn who did a great job compared to this garbage. I thought 150 to the Raptors in the Bubble could be the lowest point we had but Nash makes our defense look like that on a nightly basis. Wonderful.

[DarkXaero]

Downgrade Nash to an F-- after this game.

He is just a terrible coach. i know he is a good manager of egos and maybe the stars like him. but he just has no clue what he is doing. D'antoni or Vaughn need to take the reigns if he is going to stay on as a puppet coach.

For someone who has been calling out people for so long for being overemotional and knee jerk, this is sure as hell ironic

You were saying? we’re almost tied with the Knicks. We went from competing for 1st place for being nearly 5 games back. Just like that.

I think everyone’s feel for Nash is stronger than his feel for the game of professional basketball.

Nobody thinks he’s a terrible basketball mind or he doesn’t have potential but he skipped the line over guys who could’ve been useful with experience in a HC position. Period. Obviously, we didn’t come into this situation expecting a 3rd star but this is also on Joe Tsai, Marks for hiring a guy with no experience.

We gave up on Vaughn who did a great job compared to this garbage. I thought 150 to the Raptors in the Bubble could be the lowest point we had but Nash makes our defense look like that on a nightly basis. Wonderful.

I was saying? What I said to prokorov then still stands, and it wasn't for you

[Paradise]

My issue with Nash is very simple: When Kenny took the job he came in with a level of humbleness. He also admitted to screwing up close wins, close losses and in blowout losses. Kenny used to annoy me with too much zone ti mask our lack of defense at times but it usually worked. It’s nearly 30 games out of 70 and this guy hasn’t once said anything about his coaching beyond “I’m still getting used to it” basically paraphrasing.

I think we all understand we need more depth and pieces but the schemes are just below average. It’s rookie mode on 2K every night for somebody. The offense honestly isn’t that impressive beyond the talents of the Big 3 and Joe Harris and hot shooting from Jeff. The defense is obviously non-existing but NO 2-3 zone? NO Box & 1 Zone? NO full court pressure to start a quarter? NO half court traps to end a half? NO blitz on the PnR? And we know he sucks at proper timeouts already. This goes beyond the record of competition. It’s preparedness. It’s professional coaching.

He was asked about incorporating those schemes into games and his response was: “Nah, guys need to master how to switch better before we get into complicated schemes.”

What is complicated about that? Basic defense adjustments?

This dude isn’t impressive and nothing has been capable of defending him. I kept saying he’s winning based off talent right now and it’s not good. Look at us now.

That staff needs to look themselves dead in the mirror and figure out what the hell are we doing before trying to blame the players every single game.

The guys need to be motivated but I bet they would be under a really experienced coach. I don’t see this being fixed unless we somehow land a quality defensive starter (wing or big) and head coaching adjustment.

Btw, Jordan also has probably played himself out of the Team USA buddy group chat. Marks should get him outta here if he can. Yelling at Harden while he’s not even playing any sort of defense and can’t finish point blank lobs should’ve had him benched immediately to send a clear direct message. He’s done this with KD before the trade as well.

I’m pretty certain, this dude bitched and moaned to his buddies and Sean Marks all off-season to ensure he got to start over Jarrett Allen...only for him to look like a complete pile of trash every night with dreadlocks.

Someone trying to explain you **** up and you want to pull some Draymond Green crap isn’t acceptable to me. Get a clue. Take the criticism. Everyone is trying to **** win. Joe does it. Green does it. They get yelled at often and they accept that. Dude hasn’t done **** to be going at guys on this team who bust their ass just to score 120. He has two jobs on this team and fails at every one. **** him.

People bring up Harden is trying to win his first ring but guess what? So is DeAndre Jordan. The “he’s just on a decline” thing is officially an excuse. KG in 2013 at 37 years old had more hunger to win and production off sweat equity than this guy at 32.

What a waste of money. He’d be an outstanding fit in the Deron Williams era, though. Lazy, declining, stubborn and overpaid.

[Gooner]

it's only a matter of time before Nash gets fired, he is way out of his depth. Watching him coach this kind of super team is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in basketball. He is not getting through to the players at all, they look totally unprepared. It was such a childish move by KD to bring him in because he is his buddy. It doesn't matter how much talent you have, you need a coach.

Nash doesn't even like coaching, he never planned to do it, he just jumped on the Nets bandwagon to try to win that ring that he couldn't get as a player. Jacque Vaughn is atleast competent, he is a real coach, former player aswell, it should have been his job. Kenny shouldn't have been fired for this either, you do that if you have a proper replacement, not for this.

[Prokorov]

Downgrade Nash to an F-- after this game.

He is just a terrible coach. i know he is a good manager of egos and maybe the stars like him. but he just has no clue what he is doing. D'antoni or Vaughn need to take the reigns if he is going to stay on as a puppet coach.

For someone who has been calling out people for so long for being overemotional and knee jerk, this is sure as hell ironic

There is nothing knee jerk here. look back... ive been calling nash out for over a month. including during our 8-2 stretch. go look at the "king of brookln" thread. i voted nash as jester with reasoning described in nearly every win we vote on.

He is making mistakes you cant make as a JV high school coach.

[ecuhus1981]

Hi agree with the recent posts above. P, you ethered Jordan and Nash!

I will offer one point of order on his hiring. Durant definitely influenced the hiring of Steve, but remember, this was Sean marks best man at his wedding. He and Nash have been BFF's since the early 2000's. If anyone is responsible for the unorthodox hiring, it's Sean.

As James Baldwin said, "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced." Despite seemingly empirical evidence to suggest otherwise, I believe that Steve and DeAndre can turn around their seasons. But they have to be humble and hard working enough to face their mistakes, and correct course.

The more I think about it, maybe the solution is to compare these 2 guys with each other. If they can't take direct criticism, at least they should understand an analogy. Steve Nash is the DeAndre Jordan of head coaches, and DeAndre Jordan is the Steve Nash of starting C's.