GT: Nets @ Pistons - 02/09/21 - 7:30pm

[LOUiS-D]

This team sucks without KD. That shouldn’t be the case when we have Irving and Harden.

It's gonna be the case when you made a mid season trade for a superstar and Irving has an index finger injury on his shooting hand and goes 2/9 from 3.

[zimpy27]

Absolute worst case scenario for a rookie coach:

Constantly questioning the effort and pride of your team instead of trying to adjust tactics. Not taking any responsibility. That's how you lose a team.

We've still been really good with KD playing so it's not full on panic mode here but we're building REALLY bad habits.

What do I know? Been calling it.

I’ve been on his ass for a good two weeks now because I saw all of this coming. Trade or not. We were looking the same with Jarrett Allen, Caris and nothing has changed since adding James Harden. Imagine that.

The moment I realized this man said “zone is coming soon” I knew this was never going to work. Period.

I’m over this dude until he can show me he can coach at a professional level which includes....adjustments. Nash thinks adjustments means changing the starting lineup 30 times a night. Nothing else is required. Twitter is destroying our coaching staff and we’re being clowned across the league. Rightfully so.

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I can't see how you can say that nothing changed since the Harden trade. The defense has become way worse and the offense has improved a little.

Harden himself has a negative on/off, meaning team is better with him off the floor than on. His oncourt +/- is also negative.

Not saying it's a disaster but just highlighting that things changed since that trade. It can't entirely be Nash as he's been the coach the whole time.

[MrDollarBills]

He absolutely is. he is the most responsible.

-if you cant motivate your team quit coaching.
-if guys arent playing with effort call a time out
-play the energy guys on your team to find a spark instead of just riding your starters for 40 minutes

Can you name the energy guys on this team?

I am not going to debate your first two points. I think you are right to feel that way since Nash is failing. But what energy guys do we have?

Brown, Shumpert, Chiozza... Pelle looks like he may be one.

Brown ok. But the rest?

Prok are you serious dude? They are not NBA players.

[MrDollarBills]

Let me say this.

I think Nash is doing a bad job. The lack of adjustments is glaring and I'm stunned it has come this far considering who we have on 0ur coaching staff. It's as if D'Antoni and Vaughn are giving Nash the rope needed to hang himself.

But I'm sorry, the way some of you are on here pretending that this is all on Nash and are giving Sean Marks a pass for this roster make up is embarrassing. The way you give players a pass for their awful effort is embarrassing. This board routinely finds scapegoats to blame everything on instead of looking at the whole situation and I'm sick of the gaslighting going on here. DeAndre Jordan maybe the laziest player I have ever seen on this roster in years, and that says a LOT considering who has come and gone through here. Kyrie and Harden have been awful defensively. Joe Harris and Jeff Green routinely **** up and no one calls them out.

We have Harden, KD, Kyrie, Harris, Green...and maybe Brown. That's it. That's the roster. Jordan is not a starting center and is probably out of the league after next year.

The rest of this roster would be out of the league if not for Sean Marks, and I am not saying that as a compliment.

The coaching sucks. The effort from the players suck. The roster make up sucks.

This is on EVERYONE. Stop the gaslighting and be honest. This is absolute failure starting from the top down, you think if you fire Nash today that TLC, Shamet, Pelle and the rest of these G league suck buckets would suddenly get better? You think Jordan's starts protecting the rim? Yeah sure. I'm not buying what any of you are selling.

But yeah I really hope that Nash gets fired at this point, because that will be strike #2 and the 2nd coach fired since KD and Kyrie have signed on. After that, the buck stops at their feet and the sword will start to hover over Sean Marks' head, because he had better fix this mess fast. So let's go, fire him and let the coach killer cries come raining down from the rooftops.

And to everyone that wanted Jarrett Allen gone, bask in it. You got what you wished for.

DeAndre Jordan is better right? Lmao....

[NyCeEvO]

i dont think thats true at all. they arent sagging off of harden. he is scoring at a pretty efficient clip and our offense is cooking. problem is we constantly have to play offense for 94 feet because the other team scored. and are constantly giving up momentum killing layups/second chance points/or easy fast breaks off turnovers. and we do nothing to attempt to combat any of those things.

Like if we forced some stops, harden can get early offense. we almost NEVER get that. its actually quite amazing we score as much and as efficiently as we do with it almost all coming in the half court.

I meant to say "sag off the bench players" not Harden. They're definitely not sagging off of him.

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that is what i assumed you meant. i dont think they are sagging off harden at all. im pretty sure in the majority of instances that isnt the case. and he is scoring and creating offense at will and our offense with him in all lineups is all-time great absurd.

it just doesnt seem it because nothing we get comes in early offense off misses because we dont force misses. we have almost no chances to run or even push quickly.

id love to see our offensive stats after we force a missed shot. it has to be ungodly good. its why with durant our record is elite. because he helps us get at least a few stops

Yeah, this is an underrated point.

As soon as Harden came, one of the things I noticed was that he likes to advance the ball as quickly as possible to get easy baskets. I love when PGs do that, because the easier and faster you score, the more energy you can have on the defensive end.

But if the opposition isn't missing shots, it makes it much harder to get easy early transition baskets.


I wonder if a 2-1-2 zone would help our defense. You would have 2 players ready to guard and hedge/blow up PnRs while the 1 (KD?) can pick up the roll man, and the back 2 can sag off a little bit since they would have time to reach the player they're guarding if a cross-court pass were made.

Regardless of whatever scheme we're running, it's clearly not working. I don't see it being a lack of effort. The guys look like they're doing what they're being told to do and whatever that is just not working.

[Prokorov]

Absolute worst case scenario for a rookie coach:

Constantly questioning the effort and pride of your team instead of trying to adjust tactics. Not taking any responsibility. That's how you lose a team.

We've still been really good with KD playing so it's not full on panic mode here but we're building REALLY bad habits.

What do I know? Been calling it.

I’ve been on his ass for a good two weeks now because I saw all of this coming. Trade or not. We were looking the same with Jarrett Allen, Caris and nothing has changed since adding James Harden. Imagine that.

The moment I realized this man said “zone is coming soon” I knew this was never going to work. Period.

I’m over this dude until he can show me he can coach at a professional level which includes....adjustments. Nash thinks adjustments means changing the starting lineup 30 times a night. Nothing else is required. Twitter is destroying our coaching staff and we’re being clowned across the league. Rightfully so.

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I can't see how you can say that nothing changed since the Harden trade. The defense has become way worse and the offense has improved a little.

Harden himself has a negative on/off, meaning team is better with him off the floor than on. His oncourt +/- is also negative.

Not saying it's a disaster but just highlighting that things changed since that trade. It can't entirely be Nash as he's been the coach the whole time.

We are 6-1 when the big 3 all play and we have beaten 2 elite teams (bucks, clippers) since the harden trade. the majority of the games we have lost are a couple possesions or even down to the last shot. This is in spite of the worst coaching... maybe in the history of the franchise (certainly in the 30+ years ive been watching) and guys being in and out of the lineup for weird reasons.

Also, Hardens On/Off is irrellevant since he leads the league in minutes. he is only off the court like 18% of the time. which consistents mostly of garbage time. On/Off is pretty useless for startings who play big minutes.

[Prokorov]

Can you name the energy guys on this team?

I am not going to debate your first two points. I think you are right to feel that way since Nash is failing. But what energy guys do we have?

Brown, Shumpert, Chiozza... Pelle looks like he may be one.

Brown ok. But the rest?

Prok are you serious dude? They are not NBA players.

They dont need to be NBA players. they just need to play hard for 180 seconds. which any D-leaguer can do. its not about giving these guys 25 minutes or a role on the team. its about changing the momentum of a game, the energy level of your team, and putting some smelling salt under your starters noses.

EVERY half-decent coach on every level has done thing. I think popovich sent a guy in who didnt have his uniform on under his warmup once thats how deep to his bench he went.

These are super basic coaching technique. like when the other team goes on a 12-0 run, like maybe you call a timeout. when the other team has 35 points with 4 minutes to go in the first, maybe you sub out a shooter for a defender? maybe if your going destroyed on second chance points you put a center in instead of your 6'8" forward. When your guys are getting hammered with no call may you grow a set and get in the refs face... and when you dont and your player does maybe you step in so you get the technical and he doesnt (you know, since a 2nd one means an ejection). maybe if your getting destroyed on pick and rolls you try something besides lock and trail/going over on every screen

its just stubborn idiotic coaching which is frankly insulting from a first year coach. like if its pop whatever he has earned it. but dude get a grip and actually do some coaching

[MrDollarBills]

Brown, Shumpert, Chiozza... Pelle looks like he may be one.

Brown ok. But the rest?

Prok are you serious dude? They are not NBA players.

They dont need to be NBA players. they just need to play hard for 180 seconds. which any D-leaguer can do. its not about giving these guys 25 minutes or a role on the team. its about changing the momentum of a game, the energy level of your team, and putting some smelling salt under your starters noses.

EVERY half-decent coach on every level has done thing. I think popovich sent a guy in who didnt have his uniform on under his warmup once thats how deep to his bench he went.

These are super basic coaching technique. like when the other team goes on a 12-0 run, like maybe you call a timeout. when the other team has 35 points with 4 minutes to go in the first, maybe you sub out a shooter for a defender? maybe if your going destroyed on second chance points you put a center in instead of your 6'8" forward. When your guys are getting hammered with no call may you grow a set and get in the refs face... and when you dont and your player does maybe you step in so you get the technical and he doesnt (you know, since a 2nd one means an ejection). maybe if your getting destroyed on pick and rolls you try something besides lock and trail/going over on every screen

its just stubborn idiotic coaching which is frankly insulting from a first year coach. like if its pop whatever he has earned it. but dude get a grip and actually do some coaching

Nash has been awful, but the players aren't doing themselves any better by getting outworked and outgunned by basement dwellers.

But here's my thing:

-We can't sub out shooters for defenders when we have none. Brown is it, and he's not some lockdown specialist.

-We get destroyed on second chance points when Jordan is in.

The rest I agree with you on, but you can't sit here and deny how bad the roster is past player #7. We have no NBA caliber subs.

[MrDollarBills]

What do I know? Been calling it.

I’ve been on his ass for a good two weeks now because I saw all of this coming. Trade or not. We were looking the same with Jarrett Allen, Caris and nothing has changed since adding James Harden. Imagine that.

The moment I realized this man said “zone is coming soon” I knew this was never going to work. Period.

I’m over this dude until he can show me he can coach at a professional level which includes....adjustments. Nash thinks adjustments means changing the starting lineup 30 times a night. Nothing else is required. Twitter is destroying our coaching staff and we’re being clowned across the league. Rightfully so.

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I can't see how you can say that nothing changed since the Harden trade. The defense has become way worse and the offense has improved a little.

Harden himself has a negative on/off, meaning team is better with him off the floor than on. His oncourt +/- is also negative.

Not saying it's a disaster but just highlighting that things changed since that trade. It can't entirely be Nash as he's been the coach the whole time.

We are 6-1 when the big 3 all play and we have beaten 2 elite teams (bucks, clippers) since the harden trade. the majority of the games we have lost are a couple possesions or even down to the last shot. This is in spite of the worst coaching... maybe in the history of the franchise (certainly in the 30+ years ive been watching) and guys being in and out of the lineup for weird reasons.

Also, Hardens On/Off is irrellevant since he leads the league in minutes. he is only off the court like 18% of the time. which consistents mostly of garbage time. On/Off is pretty useless for startings who play big minutes.

Harden is not the reason why we give up 2nd chance points at an alarming rate or have zero interior defense.

His defense hasn't been good but that's a small part of a very large problem. People want to look for scapegoats when this is a team wide problem.

[Prokorov]

But I'm sorry, the way some of you are on here pretending that this is all on Nash and are giving Sean Marks a pass for this roster make up is embarrassing. The way you give players a pass for their awful effort is embarrassing.

How many peak/prime hall of famers does Marks need to give Nash before he can beat the worst team in the NBA? I'm sorry, I know there are some roster issues, but I can't even come close to entertaining anything beyond coaching until Nash can find a way to beat absolutely awful teams. like yea we have some scrubs and some d-leaguers. we also have hall of famers. we are losing to teams with d-leaguers and no all-stars. just teams of scrubs. and getting run out of the gym by them.

Effort to me is always 75% coaches 25% players. Its a long season. your coach needs to motivate you to get up and if you arent he needs to play the guys who are gonna inject some energy into the game. we just lost 2 games in embarassing fashion. we had off days to prepare for the worst team in the NBA.

-we came out flat
-we did not come close to trying to force them to their weaknesses (and they have so many weaknesses)

thats not a marks problem. if nash cant beat the worst team in the league James freaking Harden and Kyrie going agains Delon wright and Wayne Ellington then he does not belong as a coach in this league

We have Harden, KD, Kyrie, Harris, Green...and maybe Brown. That's it. That's the roster. Jordan is not a starting center and is probably out of the league after next year.

Jordan has been solid. especially post-trade. Nash doesnt play him and when he does he plays to his weaknesses. C is a spot we know we need help. we just made a trade, Marks is going to bring in an option. McGee hasnt been bought out yet. we have seen rumors from woj that he is looking to trade for mcgee and others.

in the mean time, Nash should be able to find a way contain the worst offense in the league to under 120 points

The rest of this roster would be out of the league if not for Sean Marks, and I am not saying that as a compliment.

This simply isnt true. every team in the league has similar players once they get past their 7th guy.

The coaching sucks. The effort from the players suck. The roster make up sucks.

Roster makeup is elite. we need another center, we will add it. We are 6-1 when the big 3 all play including wins vs top teams and despite the worst coaching in the league. we would be something like 20-5 if we had a decent coach. most of our losses are last minute losses to awful teams that we made 0 adjustments in.

But yeah I really hope that Nash gets fired at this point, because that will be strike #2 and the 2nd coach fired since KD and Kyrie have signed on. After that, the buck stops at their feet and the sword will start to hover over Sean Marks' head, because he had better fix this mess fast. So let's go, fire him and let the coach killer cries come raining down from the rooftops.

I love Jarrett allen. he would have helped a ton. but we sucked defensively even when he was here and we were losing to awful teams even when he was here. because nash played to his weaknesses instead of his strengths. had him in dribble hand offs and standing in the corner instead of pick and rolls. had him in these drop coverages instead of using his quickness to help mitigate pick and rolls.

Also this would not be the second coach fired, nash isnt a coach. that is one thing that is clear as day

[Prokorov]

I meant to say "sag off the bench players" not Harden. They're definitely not sagging off of him.

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that is what i assumed you meant. i dont think they are sagging off harden at all. im pretty sure in the majority of instances that isnt the case. and he is scoring and creating offense at will and our offense with him in all lineups is all-time great absurd.

it just doesnt seem it because nothing we get comes in early offense off misses because we dont force misses. we have almost no chances to run or even push quickly.

id love to see our offensive stats after we force a missed shot. it has to be ungodly good. its why with durant our record is elite. because he helps us get at least a few stops

Yeah, this is an underrated point.

As soon as Harden came, one of the things I noticed was that he likes to advance the ball as quickly as possible to get easy baskets. I love when PGs do that, because the easier and faster you score, the more energy you can have on the defensive end.

But if the opposition isn't missing shots, it makes it much harder to get easy early transition baskets.


I wonder if a 2-1-2 zone would help our defense. You would have 2 players ready to guard and hedge/blow up PnRs while the 1 (KD?) can pick up the roll man, and the back 2 can sag off a little bit since they would have time to reach the player they're guarding if a cross-court pass were made.

Regardless of whatever scheme we're running, it's clearly not working. I don't see it being a lack of effort. The guys look like they're doing what they're being told to do and whatever that is just not working.

There are things id love to see defensively scheme wise but like rotations im not going to pretend i know what works. The fact is though, that we simply arent trying to make adjustments. would a 2-1-2 work? how would we ever know?

We tie ourselves in knots switching and going over on pick and rolls and leaving guys on an island because we dont want to "leave a guy open" but the opponents get wide open shots and score 120+ against us anyway. so yeah maybe you give up open threes or maybe you give up some dunks but go out and trap hard pick and rolls. double hard, fight through screens.... we only need 2-3 stops here and there to string together 8 or 10-0 runs.

[NyCeEvO]

that is what i assumed you meant. i dont think they are sagging off harden at all. im pretty sure in the majority of instances that isnt the case. and he is scoring and creating offense at will and our offense with him in all lineups is all-time great absurd.

it just doesnt seem it because nothing we get comes in early offense off misses because we dont force misses. we have almost no chances to run or even push quickly.

id love to see our offensive stats after we force a missed shot. it has to be ungodly good. its why with durant our record is elite. because he helps us get at least a few stops

Yeah, this is an underrated point.

As soon as Harden came, one of the things I noticed was that he likes to advance the ball as quickly as possible to get easy baskets. I love when PGs do that, because the easier and faster you score, the more energy you can have on the defensive end.

But if the opposition isn't missing shots, it makes it much harder to get easy early transition baskets.


I wonder if a 2-1-2 zone would help our defense. You would have 2 players ready to guard and hedge/blow up PnRs while the 1 (KD?) can pick up the roll man, and the back 2 can sag off a little bit since they would have time to reach the player they're guarding if a cross-court pass were made.

Regardless of whatever scheme we're running, it's clearly not working. I don't see it being a lack of effort. The guys look like they're doing what they're being told to do and whatever that is just not working.

There are things id love to see defensively scheme wise but like rotations im not going to pretend i know what works. The fact is though, that we simply arent trying to make adjustments. would a 2-1-2 work? how would we ever know?

We tie ourselves in knots switching and going over on pick and rolls and leaving guys on an island because we dont want to "leave a guy open" but the opponents get wide open shots and score 120+ against us anyway. so yeah maybe you give up open threes or maybe you give up some dunks but go out and trap hard pick and rolls. double hard, fight through screens.... we only need 2-3 stops here and there to string together 8 or 10-0 runs.

Right. If we’re going to give them a basket, let it be after they make a difficult pass out of a sideline trap or a blown up PnR.

Teams are getting whatever they want at all 3 levels. And while I know we could improve with someone more agile and quick off their feet than DJ, the problems are way beyond him and speak to systemic defensive problems, which means it’s on the coaching staff.

And you’re right, DJ has been better post-Harden trade. Allen definitely provided more than DJ for rim protection but we still had defensive issues when he was here. The coaching staff better figure it out quick.

Also, I don’t think Nash is getting fired anytime soon, in part solely because it would reflect really poorly on Marks. He chose his former teammate (who skipped the proverbial coaching line) over Jacque Vaughn (who I’m still meh about) and other candidates. Marks needs Nash to show something positive or at least stay for 2 seasons, otherwise Joe Tsai will look at Marks and say “You chose him and it was a bad decision.” Nash will have a long leash whether you want him to or not (or unless the players revolt).

[Prokorov]

Also, I don’t think Nash is getting fired anytime soon, in part solely because it would reflect really poorly on Marks. He chose his former teammate (who skipped the proverbial coaching line) over Jacque Vaughn (who I’m still meh about) and other candidates. Marks needs Nash to show something positive or at least stay for 2 seasons, otherwise Joe Tsai will look at Marks and say “You chose him and it was a bad decision.” Nash will have a long leash whether you want him to or not (or unless the players revolt).

I think the majority of players hate Nash or at the very least dont respect him as a coach.

-If you are a role guy, why are you gonna play hard for nash when he wont play you. and when he does its super limited
-if you are an established vet, how do you repesct a guy who puts you in position to exploit your weakness and ignore your strength
-if you are a player, how can you get behind a guy who sits down quietly as your getting bullied with no calls from the refs
-if you are an all-nba player or former champion, how can you respect a guy who refuses to make adjustments

like the kenny situation, im sure this is really ugly behind closed doors. i think the players probably go around nash and plead with D'antoni or vaughn.

I think if Nash doesnt get fire it will be D'antoni axed and vaughn become the real coach with nash as a puppet.

Nash is not capable.

[Stone]

Lets take a step back and think this through. We lost to yet another team we should have beat. It appears Nash lost the team, and that is assuming he even had it at one point. He was given the keys to a Ferrari and he is using it like a Honda Civic. But I agree it is on everyone, we are not going to win with KD out and Joe putting up 6 points.

As far as Marks is concerned. He went all in for Harden and wants to win a title within this season or the next one. The gamble he took on Harden was a ballsy one. Not every GM is going to make that move. We gave up a lot and there were no guarantees that this would work. We are really only into a small sample of the plus Harden Nets.

This team is built for the playoffs, and if heathy can go deep. Possibly all the way if we can add another piece to give KD a hand on the defensive end. A lot of....if's, and's or but's. So we got to roll with what we got.

[MGrand15]

Also, I don’t think Nash is getting fired anytime soon, in part solely because it would reflect really poorly on Marks. He chose his former teammate (who skipped the proverbial coaching line) over Jacque Vaughn (who I’m still meh about) and other candidates. Marks needs Nash to show something positive or at least stay for 2 seasons, otherwise Joe Tsai will look at Marks and say “You chose him and it was a bad decision.” Nash will have a long leash whether you want him to or not (or unless the players revolt).

I think the majority of players hate Nash or at the very least dont respect him as a coach.

-If you are a role guy, why are you gonna play hard for nash when he wont play you. and when he does its super limited
-if you are an established vet, how do you repesct a guy who puts you in position to exploit your weakness and ignore your strength
-if you are a player, how can you get behind a guy who sits down quietly as your getting bullied with no calls from the refs
-if you are an all-nba player or former champion, how can you respect a guy who refuses to make adjustments

like the kenny situation, im sure this is really ugly behind closed doors. i think the players probably go around nash and plead with D'antoni or vaughn.

I think if Nash doesnt get fire it will be D'antoni axed and vaughn become the real coach with nash as a puppet.

Nash is not capable.

Vaughn is in charge of the defense so he's not looking great either. Maybe the players respect him but his schemes aren't getting it done.

[DarkXaero]

What do I know? Been calling it.

I’ve been on his ass for a good two weeks now because I saw all of this coming. Trade or not. We were looking the same with Jarrett Allen, Caris and nothing has changed since adding James Harden. Imagine that.

The moment I realized this man said “zone is coming soon” I knew this was never going to work. Period.

I’m over this dude until he can show me he can coach at a professional level which includes....adjustments. Nash thinks adjustments means changing the starting lineup 30 times a night. Nothing else is required. Twitter is destroying our coaching staff and we’re being clowned across the league. Rightfully so.

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I can't see how you can say that nothing changed since the Harden trade. The defense has become way worse and the offense has improved a little.

Harden himself has a negative on/off, meaning team is better with him off the floor than on. His oncourt +/- is also negative.

Not saying it's a disaster but just highlighting that things changed since that trade. It can't entirely be Nash as he's been the coach the whole time.

We are 6-1 when the big 3 all play and we have beaten 2 elite teams (bucks, clippers) since the harden trade. the majority of the games we have lost are a couple possesions or even down to the last shot. This is in spite of the worst coaching... maybe in the history of the franchise (certainly in the 30+ years ive been watching) and guys being in and out of the lineup for weird reasons.

Also, Hardens On/Off is irrellevant since he leads the league in minutes. he is only off the court like 18% of the time. which consistents mostly of garbage time. On/Off is pretty useless for startings who play big minutes.

We're 4-1 when the big 3 play, not 6-1 (not counting the Raps game which would make it 4-2).

[Prokorov]

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I can't see how you can say that nothing changed since the Harden trade. The defense has become way worse and the offense has improved a little.

Harden himself has a negative on/off, meaning team is better with him off the floor than on. His oncourt +/- is also negative.

Not saying it's a disaster but just highlighting that things changed since that trade. It can't entirely be Nash as he's been the coach the whole time.

We are 6-1 when the big 3 all play and we have beaten 2 elite teams (bucks, clippers) since the harden trade. the majority of the games we have lost are a couple possesions or even down to the last shot. This is in spite of the worst coaching... maybe in the history of the franchise (certainly in the 30+ years ive been watching) and guys being in and out of the lineup for weird reasons.

Also, Hardens On/Off is irrellevant since he leads the league in minutes. he is only off the court like 18% of the time. which consistents mostly of garbage time. On/Off is pretty useless for startings who play big minutes.

We're 4-1 when the big 3 play, not 6-1 (not counting the Raps game which would make it 4-2).

yeah i ended up counting games kyrie sat but harden/KD played. either way clearly a different team when all 3 play

[Prokorov]

Also, I don’t think Nash is getting fired anytime soon, in part solely because it would reflect really poorly on Marks. He chose his former teammate (who skipped the proverbial coaching line) over Jacque Vaughn (who I’m still meh about) and other candidates. Marks needs Nash to show something positive or at least stay for 2 seasons, otherwise Joe Tsai will look at Marks and say “You chose him and it was a bad decision.” Nash will have a long leash whether you want him to or not (or unless the players revolt).

I think the majority of players hate Nash or at the very least dont respect him as a coach.

-If you are a role guy, why are you gonna play hard for nash when he wont play you. and when he does its super limited
-if you are an established vet, how do you repesct a guy who puts you in position to exploit your weakness and ignore your strength
-if you are a player, how can you get behind a guy who sits down quietly as your getting bullied with no calls from the refs
-if you are an all-nba player or former champion, how can you respect a guy who refuses to make adjustments

like the kenny situation, im sure this is really ugly behind closed doors. i think the players probably go around nash and plead with D'antoni or vaughn.

I think if Nash doesnt get fire it will be D'antoni axed and vaughn become the real coach with nash as a puppet.

Nash is not capable.

Vaughn is in charge of the defense so he's not looking great either. Maybe the players respect him but his schemes aren't getting it done.

His schemes are not happening. all we do is lazy switch everything and then go over on the high pick and roll asking DJ to guard 2 players.

no blitzing, no trapping, no zone, nothing. Vaugn may have the defensicve role but its not making it to the game plan and nash either isnt going to him for adjustments or isnt listening to him

[MrDollarBills]

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^^Explain to me why this is Steve Nash's fault?

[zimpy27]

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^^Explain to me why this is Steve Nash's fault?

Because he's still giving Deandre Jordan minutes.