Best News This Year! - Only 14 more weeks...

[bstein14]

Only 14 more weeks until this shortened season ends and Blake Griffin is on an expiring contract.

May 15th or 16th will likely be our last game of the year and we will officially be able to call Blake contract expiring.

Seems like forever ago we traded for Blake and his massive deal.

Blake is owed $38,957,000 from Detroit next year.... If he is will to only accept $30 million of that deal I think it would be wise for us to buy him out and continue the youth movement without him. We might be able to sell him on that type of buyout, with him perhaps thinking he'll be able to pick up a MLE type deal with another team for a year or two.

[vege]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

[foolinc]

Funny enough, I'm more interested to watch this team than last year, especially on the nights that Blake is resting. Then again I have zero expectations and just want to see the kids and fliers get a chance to play at least 15 a night while Grant guns for the MIP award.

[zeebneeb]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It is factually impossible to call the Hayes pick a disaster, end of discussion. Get back to me in a few years, and then we can have a discussion.

[440BB]

I'm enjoying watching this team develop. They're playing hard every night and that's refreshing.

[edmunder_prc]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It is factually impossible to call the Hayes pick a disaster, end of discussion. Get back to me in a few years, and then we can have a discussion.

If Hayes works himself into a 6th man during his rookie contract it will be a major, incredible accomplishment.

I mean look at someone like Saben Lee. He is WAY ahead of Killian Hayes. If we had picked him at 7 I would be upset and Killian needs to learn how to dribble and shoot, basic skills, before he makes it up to Saben Lee's level.

Hayes was a bottom 5 player in the league, according to NBA Math, among the bottom players in the league in both defense and offense. Thats an enormous hill to climb.

[bstein14]

From what we've seen, I would 100% be happy if Hayes can work himself into a Rodney Stuckey type career with a little better defense. He was/is so much further away than I would have ever imagined after being billed as someone who played in a pro league that would better prepare him for the NBA than college ball.

[SamFlow]

looking forward to team developing the kids. Same with DSJ. Interested to see what assets we get for Ellington. Don't think we trade Plumlee. Just ellington.

[Drwho17]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

I really enjoy watching these guys, watching the young guys learn their way, Grant becoming a star. I have seen how you hate Weaver, but it seems like he may actually have a clue, Grant/Plumlee have been good, Wright has been good, Stewart/Bey have been good, Jackson looks good, Rose is gone, Weaver was saddled with Griffin and Casey. What would you have had a GM do, that was saddled with what many would call the worst roster in the league, with the least hope? What results are you looking for that would turn your view on Weaver around? I think at this point, I think he's done what was needed to move the franchise forward. The only negatives I think are it cost cap resources to do what he's done, might have been able to do a better job at that and losing Christian Wood.

[Drwho17]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It is factually impossible to call the Hayes pick a disaster, end of discussion. Get back to me in a few years, and then we can have a discussion.

If Hayes works himself into a 6th man during his rookie contract it will be a major, incredible accomplishment.

I mean look at someone like Saben Lee. He is WAY ahead of Killian Hayes. If we had picked him at 7 I would be upset and Killian needs to learn how to dribble and shoot, basic skills, before he makes it up to Saben Lee's level.

Hayes was a bottom 5 player in the league, according to NBA Math, among the bottom players in the league in both defense and offense. Thats an enormous hill to climb.

Yea, Hayes was a letdown, Haliburton would have looked nice. I think Hayes is a player you think should be good, but just isn't, has good height/length, young, son of a pro players, but his competition level just wasn't their. I don't have a lot of hope for him either, he didn't seem to do anything all that well and I didn't see anything in his brief run that showed me much promise.

[Sort]

People are dropping the ball on Hayes way too fast. Yes, he obviously had warts, but his defense was way beyond most rookies and he was reading plays well. I never thought he got to his comfort level and just looked overwhelmed. He was never a player with serious athleticism that could compensate for his learning curve.

Hailburton is so much better, but that was also his knock: short term readiness, no long term growth. Not sure that was accurate, but hold true right now.

[vege]

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

I really enjoy watching these guys, watching the young guys learn their way, Grant becoming a star. I have seen how you hate Weaver, but it seems like he may actually have a clue, Grant/Plumlee have been good, Wright has been good, Stewart/Bey have been good, Jackson looks good, Rose is gone, Weaver was saddled with Griffin and Casey. What would you have had a GM do, that was saddled with what many would call the worst roster in the league, with the least hope? What results are you looking for that would turn your view on Weaver around? I think at this point, I think he's done what was needed to move the franchise forward. The only negatives I think are it cost cap resources to do what he's done, might have been able to do a better job at that and losing Christian Wood.

I don't know Weaver and I have no reason to hate him, I hate what he did to our franchise. He let Wood go, and anyone would've kept him. We had a thread here in this forums where everyone agreed that we should keep Wood if the price was 15 million or less per season. So yeah.

He donated Bruce Brown to Brooklyn. He is not fantastic, but he is a much better player than DSJr for example, and he would probably be our starting PG this season, even if he is a SG. He did everything that was asked from him, he was developing here, and exceeding the expectations. Do you have any explanation why we threw Brown away? Or why we let Wood go?

Weaver did a pick swap with Houston, which is already bad value, the draft was well known to be a weak draft, and with the Covid situation, information was limited, it's no accident we **** up at #7. No one had enough information. And to make things worse, we added A LOT of value to the pick swap. We ate 12.8 million of Ariza's salary. And we had 0 interest in Ariza. And if that's not bad enough, we also donated a 2nd to Houston in the process.

Weaver reached big time drafting Stewart at #16, and I want Stewart to succeed, but I don't think he will be anything more than an energetic big off the bench. He is very raw and unskilled, the only thing he has going for him is his energy, and don't get me wrong, I love it, but that's not enough for the price we paid to acquire him.

Then Weaver got robbed even harder by the Clippers, we paid Kennard, who is a good shooter and solid prospect, and those are expensive to acquire nowadays, and as if that's not enough, we added 4 2nd round picks, and those 2nds are likely going to be early 2nds. Those 2nds alone should be enough to land you the #19 in a weak draft. And if that's not bad enough already, we took on McGruder's dead money. So we pretty much donated Bruce Brown, Luke Kennard and Christian Wood for FREE.

Then he did an awful trade value wise. Wright has been fine for us, but he was terrible for Dallas, they wanted to get out of his contract badly. We took on a lot of extra money, for an unwanted player and we got 0 assets in return.

He got Josh Jackson, good, I would have done the same, and I am just a regular guy sitting at my house, he is being paid millions, so he better do the right things.

He got Jerami Grant, I never liked Grant's game, and no one expected Grant to be this good, so finally, the dumbass did something good. Doesn't erase all the bad things he did, but at least he did one thing right. Brilliant move.

Plumlee is ok, I wanted us to get Nerlens Noel, and Plumlee is much better, even if he is paid a lot of money, he is still a positive asset, so good for Weaver, it was a solid move. It was not worth all the stretch and waive fiasco to sign him tho.

So, Weaver's first offseason result is.

- Kennard/Brown/Wood donated to other teams for free.
- We are a terrible rebuilding team that owes a future first and don't owe our 2nds untill 2027. #31-35 picks have decent value, and that's likely where our 2nds will land untill 2026.
- We just finished paying Josh Smith, which was hindering our ability to make moves, and we instaltly added dead money in our cap for the foreseable future. And it was not needed. Weaver decided to take that rout while he was fleeced in the deals he made.
- He picked the wrong player with his first lotto pick. He picked a good player at #19 to reduce the pain, but still, the draft was a big negative imo.

So what results I was expecting? A competent GM would have a core of Haliburton(we all wanted Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)/Jackson(a lot of us wanted him)/Bey(everyone knew he would be at least serviceable in the league, I have no idea how he slipped to #19)/Grant(brilliant move by Weaver, good for him)/Wood(I don't think I need to say anything here) and no dead money on the cap, no owed future 1sts, and would have control over all his future 2nds. Weaver has been a disaster so far. Period.

[Pharaoh]

Treadmill is exactly where that team would be

I don't think a lot of people are interested in watch this **** team play. 14 weeks are a lot but oh well, almost 1/3 of the season is done.

Then we'll have our hopes in yet another draft, where we have failed over and over again and Weaver was a disaster in his first draft with the #7 pick (I don't blame him, almost all of us wanted Killian Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)

I really enjoy watching these guys, watching the young guys learn their way, Grant becoming a star. I have seen how you hate Weaver, but it seems like he may actually have a clue, Grant/Plumlee have been good, Wright has been good, Stewart/Bey have been good, Jackson looks good, Rose is gone, Weaver was saddled with Griffin and Casey. What would you have had a GM do, that was saddled with what many would call the worst roster in the league, with the least hope? What results are you looking for that would turn your view on Weaver around? I think at this point, I think he's done what was needed to move the franchise forward. The only negatives I think are it cost cap resources to do what he's done, might have been able to do a better job at that and losing Christian Wood.

I don't know Weaver and I have no reason to hate him, I hate what he did to our franchise. He let Wood go, and anyone would've kept him. We had a thread here in this forums where everyone agreed that we should keep Wood if the price was 15 million or less per season. So yeah.

He donated Bruce Brown to Brooklyn. He is not fantastic, but he is a much better player than DSJr for example, and he would probably be our starting PG this season, even if he is a SG. He did everything that was asked from him, he was developing here, and exceeding the expectations. Do you have any explanation why we threw Brown away? Or why we let Wood go?

Weaver did a pick swap with Houston, which is already bad value, the draft was well known to be a weak draft, and with the Covid situation, information was limited, it's no accident we **** up at #7. No one had enough information. And to make things worse, we added A LOT of value to the pick swap. We ate 12.8 million of Ariza's salary. And we had 0 interest in Ariza. And if that's not bad enough, we also donated a 2nd to Houston in the process.

Weaver reached big time drafting Stewart at #16, and I want Stewart to succeed, but I don't think he will be anything more than an energetic big off the bench. He is very raw and unskilled, the only thing he has going for him is his energy, and don't get me wrong, I love it, but that's not enough for the price we paid to acquire him.

Then Weaver got robbed even harder by the Clippers, we paid Kennard, who is a good shooter and solid prospect, and those are expensive to acquire nowadays, and as if that's not enough, we added 4 2nd round picks, and those 2nds are likely going to be early 2nds. Those 2nds alone should be enough to land you the #19 in a weak draft. And if that's not bad enough already, we took on McGruder's dead money. So we pretty much donated Bruce Brown, Luke Kennard and Christian Wood for FREE.

Then he did an awful trade value wise. Wright has been fine for us, but he was terrible for Dallas, they wanted to get out of his contract badly. We took on a lot of extra money, for an unwanted player and we got 0 assets in return.

He got Josh Jackson, good, I would have done the same, and I am just a regular guy sitting at my house, he is being paid millions, so he better do the right things.

He got Jerami Grant, I never liked Grant's game, and no one expected Grant to be this good, so finally, the dumbass did something good. Doesn't erase all the bad things he did, but at least he did one thing right. Brilliant move.

Plumlee is ok, I wanted us to get Nerlens Noel, and Plumlee is much better, even if he is paid a lot of money, he is still a positive asset, so good for Weaver, it was a solid move. It was not worth all the stretch and waive fiasco to sign him tho.

So, Weaver's first offseason result is.

- Kennard/Brown/Wood donated to other teams for free.
- We are a terrible rebuilding team that owes a future first and don't owe our 2nds untill 2027. #31-35 picks have decent value, and that's likely where our 2nds will land untill 2026.
- We just finished paying Josh Smith, which was hindering our ability to make moves, and we instaltly added dead money in our cap for the foreseable future. And it was not needed. Weaver decided to take that rout while he was fleeced in the deals he made.
- He picked the wrong player with his first lotto pick. He picked a good player at #19 to reduce the pain, but still, the draft was a big negative imo.

So what results I was expecting? A competent GM would have a core of Haliburton(we all wanted Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)/Jackson(a lot of us wanted him)/Bey(everyone knew he would be at least serviceable in the league, I have no idea how he slipped to #19)/Grant(brilliant move by Weaver, good for him)/Wood(I don't think I need to say anything here) and no dead money on the cap, no owed future 1sts, and would have control over all his future 2nds. Weaver has been a disaster so far. Period.

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[DBC10]

No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It is factually impossible to call the Hayes pick a disaster, end of discussion. Get back to me in a few years, and then we can have a discussion.

If Hayes works himself into a 6th man during his rookie contract it will be a major, incredible accomplishment.

I mean look at someone like Saben Lee. He is WAY ahead of Killian Hayes. If we had picked him at 7 I would be upset and Killian needs to learn how to dribble and shoot, basic skills, before he makes it up to Saben Lee's level.

Hayes was a bottom 5 player in the league, according to NBA Math, among the bottom players in the league in both defense and offense. Thats an enormous hill to climb.

Yea, Hayes was a letdown, Haliburton would have looked nice. I think Hayes is a player you think should be good, but just isn't, has good height/length, young, son of a pro players, but his competition level just wasn't their. I don't have a lot of hope for him either, he didn't seem to do anything all that well and I didn't see anything in his brief run that showed me much promise.

I think the biggest clue for me that Hayes wasn't going to immediately translate here and remains to be seen was when he wasn't even dominating the German league where he was given the ultimate green light. He just sort of looked pedestrian while flashing some potential

Even scouts noted this as well, during one of Lowe's podcasts. That the German league he came from pretty much was not great at all

Again, it remains to be seen if he can put it all together. Even just a small improvement next year would look gargantuan compared to his near disastrous start of his tenure here

[Pharaoh]

Find it amusing that Hayes future has been decided by so many based on 7 games where he averaged 21 minutes per.

Bit hard to ascertain much from less than 200 minutes on the floor.

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[ByeByeDre]

I don't know Weaver and I have no reason to hate him, I hate what he did to our franchise. He let Wood go, and anyone would've kept him. We had a thread here in this forums where everyone agreed that we should keep Wood if the price was 15 million or less per season. So yeah.

He donated Bruce Brown to Brooklyn. He is not fantastic, but he is a much better player than DSJr for example, and he would probably be our starting PG this season, even if he is a SG. He did everything that was asked from him, he was developing here, and exceeding the expectations. Do you have any explanation why we threw Brown away? Or why we let Wood go?

Weaver did a pick swap with Houston, which is already bad value, the draft was well known to be a weak draft, and with the Covid situation, information was limited, it's no accident we **** up at #7. No one had enough information. And to make things worse, we added A LOT of value to the pick swap. We ate 12.8 million of Ariza's salary. And we had 0 interest in Ariza. And if that's not bad enough, we also donated a 2nd to Houston in the process.

Weaver reached big time drafting Stewart at #16, and I want Stewart to succeed, but I don't think he will be anything more than an energetic big off the bench. He is very raw and unskilled, the only thing he has going for him is his energy, and don't get me wrong, I love it, but that's not enough for the price we paid to acquire him.

Then Weaver got robbed even harder by the Clippers, we paid Kennard, who is a good shooter and solid prospect, and those are expensive to acquire nowadays, and as if that's not enough, we added 4 2nd round picks, and those 2nds are likely going to be early 2nds. Those 2nds alone should be enough to land you the #19 in a weak draft. And if that's not bad enough already, we took on McGruder's dead money. So we pretty much donated Bruce Brown, Luke Kennard and Christian Wood for FREE.

Then he did an awful trade value wise. Wright has been fine for us, but he was terrible for Dallas, they wanted to get out of his contract badly. We took on a lot of extra money, for an unwanted player and we got 0 assets in return.

He got Josh Jackson, good, I would have done the same, and I am just a regular guy sitting at my house, he is being paid millions, so he better do the right things.

He got Jerami Grant, I never liked Grant's game, and no one expected Grant to be this good, so finally, the dumbass did something good. Doesn't erase all the bad things he did, but at least he did one thing right. Brilliant move.

Plumlee is ok, I wanted us to get Nerlens Noel, and Plumlee is much better, even if he is paid a lot of money, he is still a positive asset, so good for Weaver, it was a solid move. It was not worth all the stretch and waive fiasco to sign him tho.

So, Weaver's first offseason result is.

- Kennard/Brown/Wood donated to other teams for free.
- We are a terrible rebuilding team that owes a future first and don't owe our 2nds untill 2027. #31-35 picks have decent value, and that's likely where our 2nds will land untill 2026.
- We just finished paying Josh Smith, which was hindering our ability to make moves, and we instaltly added dead money in our cap for the foreseable future. And it was not needed. Weaver decided to take that rout while he was fleeced in the deals he made.
- He picked the wrong player with his first lotto pick. He picked a good player at #19 to reduce the pain, but still, the draft was a big negative imo.

So what results I was expecting? A competent GM would have a core of Haliburton(we all wanted Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)/Jackson(a lot of us wanted him)/Bey(everyone knew he would be at least serviceable in the league, I have no idea how he slipped to #19)/Grant(brilliant move by Weaver, good for him)/Wood(I don't think I need to say anything here) and no dead money on the cap, no owed future 1sts, and would have control over all his future 2nds. Weaver has been a disaster so far. Period.

This. One hundred percent. I know everyone likes shiny new toys, but when the luster rubs off, we’re left with no money, a garbage roster, a terrible lottery pick, and little future draft capital. And Weaver will most likely be here another 4/5 years. Awesome......

[El Chivo]

this team is losing in a funny way, even if I don't like veterans play 30+ minutes.

this board has become a sh**-shot led by a troll (ByeByeDre) and some negative users, so have fun with them.

[Manocad]

So what results I was expecting? A competent GM would have a core of Haliburton(we all wanted Hayes, but it's his job to know better than us)/Jackson(a lot of us wanted him)/Bey(everyone knew he would be at least serviceable in the league, I have no idea how he slipped to #19)/Grant(brilliant move by Weaver, good for him)/Wood(I don't think I need to say anything here) and no dead money on the cap, no owed future 1sts, and would have control over all his future 2nds. Weaver has been a disaster so far. Period.

A disaster would be if Bey sucked, Grant sucked, Jackson sucked, Plumlee sucked, and Ellington sucked.

[aad]

It’s a shame what this board become I’m done here will find another board to join