gobullschi wrote:Vickveto wrote:WYO wrote:Yep, add about 3 more picks and pick swaps along with taking Lauri out of the deal then we can talk about taking on Westbrook's contract and ball stopping style of play.
I agree a extra pick or two probably needs to be added
But I wish more people he will realize we are stuck in mediocrity and we have to do something EXTREME to get out of it. Or hope for a miracle pick in the back of the lottery to be the next Giannis or Donovan Mitchell. There may not be a player of that caliber getting picked around that range for another decade or so...our past failed tanks have killed this franchise.
The Bulls aren’t ‘stuck in mediocrity’. They have the youngest starting line up in the NBA and are only 2 games out of the playoffs
with two starters out. Give Billy Donovan some time to develop the talent we have.
Zach LaVine is one of the top young emerging all-stars in the game and the Bulls will have a ton of cap space available.
I actually think the Bulls are in a much better position than you think. Guys like LeBron, Harden, Curry, Westbrook, etc are all approaching their mid 30s, which is when a significant decline usually begins. A new generation of players will be taking over the league in the next couple years. Be patient and hopefully AK can add some difference makers in FA or via trade.
Yeah. League changes drastically every 1-2 years. People put too much emotional baggage on the lows and highs.
Fact is a (primarily) 19-25 yo roster never has and never will win something significant. It is virtually a Final Four squad in disguise. Your run-of-mill veterans Barton, Temple and Thad Young can make work out of #1 prospects like Edwards or Zion.
Brandon Ingram looked like garbage on stilts his first 2-3 seasons. That’s why he was hardly enough in the AD trade; Lakers had to trade their entire farm. Ainge was getting crapped on for holding Brown and Tatum past their first 1-2 years, as they "regressed" (largely fan fiction - the stakes just got higher for the sophomores).
The cap is significantly cleaner after Felicio and the G-League junk expires, along with injury prone Otto. The roster is more mature in 1-2 years. There will be some tweaks.
Of course I want a superstar draft as much as the next guy. But we’re gonna see, it’s a big dilemma to tank intentionally - you tank player value and development on a low % gamble.
We’re not looking like a homerun, but it’s a bit of a win-win. Due to injuries to fluff players (imo) like Otto and Lauri, we either win/compete with the “right guys” (development pieces) or we lose and maintain a top-4 lottery chance.
Doubling down - PW and Coby are going to be good players. Zach has landed on the moon. I never expected any of these guys to become as good as Lebron or Durant, but you also have to remember that these guys ONLY won chips with super teams. Otherwise, smart team building, player development with sprinkles of great luck are what you need. And anybody with a brain will tell you that relying solely on 'great luck' is probably going to fail.. especially since Jokic, Draymond, Siakam, Butler, Bam, Kawhi, Giannis and countless others have proven that you can get lucky without tanking.
Main problem i had with the GarPax build was considering one-way bigs with no playmaking/iso-scoring skills as core pieces. With WCJ/Lauri
kind of out of the picture, in the sense that everyone realizes they aren't "top-10 pick" quality, the 'core' is actually pretty solid... Considering we have another FRP (mid at worst, top-4 at best) coming, and a clean cap.