Game Thread: Hawks @ Mavs -- 2/10

[HMFFL]

We had them throughout the whole game. We need to learn how to put teams away. Nice games from Trae JC and Huerter but nobody else showed up at all. Gallo can’t go 2-12 and Cam has to step up and start playing up to his potential. This is just bs from him.

We were off for a few days. We need to come out with a win here even if it’s in the road. Cant go down to a team twice in a week.

Yes, closing out games is key. It needed to happen tonight with the big lead and Dallas lacks talent with the exception of Luka, KP, and THJ.

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[Spud2nique]

Our 11-13 record is basically the improvement of Trae, Collins, Hunter, Huerter and the addition of Capela.

Our vets that we spent money on this offseason have done nothing for us. I mean Gallo has been good here n there but he keeps shooting out of the flow, Rondo hasn’t impacted much, Bogi has been hurt. I’m not super worried there.

Starting to be slightly concerned with Cam’s consistency and some calls by Lloyd. Not pushing the panic button but we need more from our key reserves, vets, rook..etc.

[D21]

There's one thing that pissed me off : we know by what we saw until now that Okongwu is not ready, but we need to play him to let develop, but what Pierce is doing ?
Okongwu entered late in the 1st quarter when ATL lead was 22-16. He goes back to the bench at 30-32 (16-8 for DAL)
Then, he repeats the same mistake in the 3rd quarter : entered late in the quarter at 81-69, goes back to the bench at 83-77 (9-2 for DAL).

If you want to play Okongwu, you play him in the begging of a quarter, and let the other covering the loss, if any, on the second part of the quarter, not in the second part of a quarter where you let the opponent coming back and get the mental benefit of that.

It's unbelievable to see this. By not playing Okongwu at the right moments, he let DAL coming back two times, and entering the following quarter with more motivation.

Our 11-13 record is basically the improvement of Trae, Collins, Hunter, Huerter and the addition of Capela.

Our vets that we spent money on this offseason have done nothing for us. I mean Gallo has been good here n there but he keeps shooting out of the flow, Rondo hasn’t impacted much, Bogi has been hurt. I’m not super worried there.

Starting to be slightly concerned with Cam’s consistency and some calls by Lloyd. Not pushing the panic button but we need more from our key reserves, vets, rook..etc.

That's right, but they may have more improved than what the record says, because this game and two BKN games could have turned that into 14-10.
I didn't hope for a huge impact from Rondo in the regular season, more that the team would get a good playoffs spot between 4th and 6th, and then Rondo's impact would come in playoffs. But I expected more from Gallo, Snell, Dunn and Bogi, reflected on the record. Now, it can be mainly their injuries that reflects on the actual record

In this game, we are only -2pts when Gallo played, with him at 2-12. Just 4-12 and it's a win. It's a palyer/coach problem.
But getting a -15pts in less than 6min with Okongwu at the worst moments is more frustrating for me, because it's a coach only problem.

[Galloisdaman]

We had them throughout the whole game. We need to learn how to put teams away. Nice games from Trae JC and Huerter but nobody else showed up at all. Gallo can’t go 2-12 and Cam has to step up and start playing up to his potential. This is just bs from him.

We were off for a few days. We need to come out with a win here even if it’s in the road. Cant go down to a team twice in a week.

Yes, closing out games is key. It needed to happen tonight with the big lead and Dallas lacks talent with the exception of Luka, KP, and THJ.

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Clyde used to say closing out games were mostly about the pg. Now I think its mostly about the primary ball handler not the pg.

I thought Collins was open for that lob. I do not know if the play was drawn up for Collins or for Trae.

[Galloisdaman]

Our 11-13 record is basically the improvement of Trae, Collins, Hunter, Huerter and the addition of Capela.

Our vets that we spent money on this offseason have done nothing for us. I mean Gallo has been good here n there but he keeps shooting out of the flow, Rondo hasn’t impacted much, Bogi has been hurt. I’m not super worried there.

Starting to be slightly concerned with Cam’s consistency and some calls by Lloyd. Not pushing the panic button but we need more from our key reserves, vets, rook..etc.

Its may be a little tricky for Gallo to stay sharp. Not only because of the injury but his role has changed dramatically. He went from years as a leading scorer starter with the ball in his hands often to a bench player that is often a spectator setting picks.

[Spud2nique]

There's one thing that pissed me off : we know by what we saw until now that Okongwu is not ready, but we need to play him to let develop, but what Pierce is doing ?
Okongwu entered late in the 1st quarter when ATL lead was 22-16. He goes back to the bench at 30-32 (16-8 for DAL)
Then, he repeats the same mistake in the 3rd quarter : entered late in the quarter at 81-69, goes back to the bench at 83-77 (9-2 for DAL).

If you want to play Okongwu, you play him in the begging of a quarter, and let the other covering the loss, if any, on the second part of the quarter, not in the second part of a quarter where you let the opponent coming back and get the mental benefit of that.

It's unbelievable to see this. By not playing Okongwu at the right moments, he let DAL coming back two times, and entering the following quarter with more motivation.

Our 11-13 record is basically the improvement of Trae, Collins, Hunter, Huerter and the addition of Capela.

Our vets that we spent money on this offseason have done nothing for us. I mean Gallo has been good here n there but he keeps shooting out of the flow, Rondo hasn’t impacted much, Bogi has been hurt. I’m not super worried there.

Starting to be slightly concerned with Cam’s consistency and some calls by Lloyd. Not pushing the panic button but we need more from our key reserves, vets, rook..etc.

That's right, but they may have more improved than what the record says, because this game and two BKN games could have turned that into 14-10.
I didn't hope for a huge impact from Rondo in the regular season, more that the team would get a good playoffs spot between 4th and 6th, and then Rondo's impact would come in playoffs. But I expected more from Gallo, Snell, Dunn and Bogi, reflected on the record. Now, it can be mainly their injuries that reflects on the actual record

In this game, we are only -2pts when Gallo played, with him at 2-12. Just 4-12 and it's a win. It's a palyer/coach problem.
But getting a -15pts in less than 6min with Okongwu at the worst moments is more frustrating for me, because it's a coach only problem.

I agree with this as far as playing Okongwu in early quarter minutes, but there is a chance that he’s trying to play him in more stressful situations for exposure and experience later on, having said that, he needs to build up his confidence. Pierce does make some unusual choices and times.

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[macd-gm]

6 blown 4th quarter leads is a lot in 24 games. Win half of those and I'm loving sitting at 14-10.

[D21]

We had them throughout the whole game. We need to learn how to put teams away. Nice games from Trae JC and Huerter but nobody else showed up at all. Gallo can’t go 2-12 and Cam has to step up and start playing up to his potential. This is just bs from him.

We were off for a few days. We need to come out with a win here even if it’s in the road. Cant go down to a team twice in a week.

Yes, closing out games is key. It needed to happen tonight with the big lead and Dallas lacks talent with the exception of Luka, KP, and THJ.

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Clyde used to say closing out games were mostly about the pg. Now I think its mostly about the primary ball handler not the pg.

I thought Collins was open for that lob. I do not know if the play was drawn up for Collins or for Trae.

But this game could have been closed before, and that's what is frustrating. We thought after the free agency that ATL were possibly the deepest team, and it turned to be the opposite.
There is different things, maybe if Gallo had not been on a bad shooting night, it would have been enough to close it sooner. But what I also see is that with a full roster, Okongwu would not have played, and it's hard because the guy needs to play, but I would let him play in G-league, or with the main team when it's a easy game. This one was the kind of game we should have won by 5pts, not by 15 or 20pts, so it was too much risky to let him play.
It was -13 or -15pts in less than 6min, it's like accepting to loose the game before it's even finished.

[Galloisdaman]

Yes, closing out games is key. It needed to happen tonight with the big lead and Dallas lacks talent with the exception of Luka, KP, and THJ.

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Clyde used to say closing out games were mostly about the pg. Now I think its mostly about the primary ball handler not the pg.

I thought Collins was open for that lob. I do not know if the play was drawn up for Collins or for Trae.

But this game could have been closed before, and that's what is frustrating. We thought after the free agency that ATL were possibly the deepest team, and it turned to be the opposite.
There is different things, maybe if Gallo had not been on a bad shooting night, it would have been enough to close it sooner. But what I also see is that with a full roster, Okongwu would not have played, and it's hard because the guy needs to play, but I would let him play in G-league, or with the main team when it's a easy game. This one was the kind of game we should have won by 5pts, not by 15 or 20pts, so it was too much risky to let him play.
It was -13 or -15pts in less than 6min, it's like accepting to loose the game before it's even finished.

I understand your frustration. This team has not hit its best stride yet. They have only had a full team for a handful of games. With that said closing out games is mostly going to be about Trae and his ability to learn how to win. It takes time for most guys to learn that. While the other guys are important Trae is the only guy with a usage rating around 32. The other guys are way below. So the ball is in Traes hands. Now Trae needs help but he also needs time and experience. It even took Jordan a few years to learn to win. He is a great player. That is why he is given so much responsibility. He will learn and hopefully the other guys especially the vets will step up.

Now with all that being said the offense sometimes looks random. I do not think they fully know what they have yet. I'd like to see more of a 9 guy rotation so guys can have more of a an idea of what their roles and FGA will be in each game.