AirP. wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:AirP. wrote:When you're starting Olynyk who isn't good on defense, yeah PJ Tucker is a sizable upgrade. The less "bad" players you play the better your team is.
Is PJ Tucker a great player, no, he's a role player who plays good defense, can handle stronger bigs in the post, and shoots 3s from the corner well, he's very limited offensively but he plays within his role.
The real question is this, for this year(since both are expiring) would you rather have Olynyk or Tucker if you're trying to go deep in the playoffs, I think most(by a wide margin) would answer Tucker.
in 2021, I'm really not sure Tucker is an upgrade over Kelly all things considered.
I am sure about this - We shouldn't give up assets like picks/prospects for a guy like Tucker. He's a guy you pick up if he gets bought out, not a guy you trade real assets or players for.
Giving up a first round pick/Precious for a 36YO marginal upgrade (if that) is awfully short sighted and a classic panic move.
I don't give up Precious and a 1st, actually neither for Tucker, I think maybe he's worth 1 or possibly 2 2nd round picks and matching salary to make 2021's team better, possibly much better depending on who goes out.
Precious I value as a late lottery pick, the firsts for Miami with Bam around, a mid to mid late 1st round pick.
I've heard the reports of Houston looking for a 1st for him hoping a contender is willing to pay that price to upgrade(and possibly retain him for a couple more years for their bench) but I think overall a 2nd could get him.
Previously when I said if they ask for Precious in the Oladipo package since Houston may want more for him, you may give in but you need to be compensated for some of that give in. No, I don't move Precious straight up for Tucker.
I actually believe Miami is overselling how much Precious is a "sponge" for learning so Miami fans will think Precious will be much better at the end of the season so there's little outcry to trade him(not sure how this year's played out effects that possible plan). His play on the court and/or Spoelstra limiting what he's allowed to do doesn't exactly say he's learning all that much at this point, he nearly does the minimum amount of actions one could do on the court still and still doesn't get much time other then backing up Bam. If long term the plan is he's just a backup, yeah Miami should explore his value with other teams in the league. I like Precious but I think Miami wants a 3pt shooting big next to Bam. Even if Bam learns to shoot 3s he's still going to have the offense run through him near the free throw line meaning the opposite big has to be a 3pt shooter. Can Precious become a good enough 3pt shooter, maybe, I think he has it in him but it's probably not happening this year and probably not next year either.
If last year's mid season move to acquire Iggy, Crowder, and Hill is any indication of what Mia's thought process might be to a potential mid season trade this year, the idea of padding a need by trading for multiple players who can man a similar role lends to speculation about a deal involving Hou.
Tucker and Cousins are both in a contract year and are bigs who are capable of stretching the floor.
I could go on but these are reasons enough to consider such a move to be adequate enough for what Mia is looking for.
Precious, filler and future 2nd rounders for both Cousins and Tucker.
