psman2 wrote:Whole Truth wrote:psman2 wrote:
I think Siakam is a 2B type of star. He is a great 3rd scoring option while playing plus D. I don't see a team making much noise in the playoffs with him as your best player or even 2nd best player. I think he is tops out as like a top 35ish player.
However he is young enough for Toronto to keep building around/with him that a offer like this doesn't have the upside needed for them to pull the trigger. Plus most of the TNT board does not have Val or Anderson valued correctly. I think it would take two more 1sts to bring Toronto to the table. Anderson would have to go to a 3rd team for value and Melton really isn't needed there either unless they let both Powell and Davis walk.
Pascal is shooting 45% from the field, 29% from 3 & is set to make 35m in 23, 37m in 24. His subpar play has been part reason Raptors are under 500.
I like Pascal but wouldn't do the trade as is having Clarke, more less adding pick/s to it. Doesn't matter if Raptors fans like it or not.
As a matter of fact with that production at 37m over a 4yr span is a negative $ contract where I'd be looking for pick compensation from the Raptors..
I disagree with your value assessment here. Yes Siakam is making a lot of money and is not a viable number one option. That doesn't equate to him having negative value, just that if you want to maximize his play he needs to be in a more defined role playing with players as good or better than him. If Ja and JJJ become those better players then he be a great fit as a 3rd option playing good D just like he was in 2019 championship year. I think he has positive value around the NBA, not as much as raptors fans want but still clearly positive.
Do a search of my post history. When Pascal was coming of the bench in Raptors championship year, he still hadn't quite put it together. I was a proponent of starting him because of his speed & ability in transition after adding 2 solid wing defenders in Kawhi & Green. His 3pt shot was still a work in progress that showed significant improvement as the year progressed.
Pascal is not worth 35m. Maybe negative value might be harsh but it would be the reason Masai would be considering this deal, to get out from under a bad signing off a great season ..