Pacers @ Nets 2/10/2021 - 7:30 PM

[GTR11]

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They really killing it now. I stopped watching sport talk shows for a while now because of dumb takes like this. Gave up on cable too, there is not a damn thing to watch.

It's not a dumb take though. If DJ plays with at least 75% of the effort he played with last night it goes a long way towards solveing our interior defense woes.

Obviously I don't expect him to be able to sustain this level of play at 30+ minutes per game, so we should still acquire another center for sure. But if DJ plays at a higher level on a consistent basis it takes some of the pressure of having to get interior help right away.

Than it goes for entire team. We playing half azz d all the time. No wonder almost all our losses came from teams with losing records. DJ is washed up there's no denying it. He won't provide type of games on consistent basis, that's why I said is dumb. Also we much better defensive team with green at five and data backs it up ( not that it means much right now, we right there top three with most different starting line ups ). Maks just be spitting out some delusional lazy takes.

[ecuhus1981]

DJ played like a man possessed last night. Really impressive. For once he got rewarded with more PT.

And this is key. DJ played his best game of his Nets career, and got rewarded with 37 mins of playing time. This is why the **** about bashing Nash for not playing DJ enough is ridiculous to me. DJ doesn't get played enough because he plays at a subpar/lazy level most of the times. When he's actually playing with maximum effort, he'll get playing time. Nash isn't against centers or bigs, he just doesn't like our options there most of the times.

I just dont buy this... because we know otherwise.

We lost to the Wizards, with Jordan playing great (+15) and he never returned after 18 minutes despite us getting dominated in paint points and green/small ball not working. We saw it again in toronto. Jordan playing well, +8 in 18 minutes. toronto layup line at the rim. no resistance defensively and no lob threat. small ball not helping. we saw no jordan in the 4th/second half really.

Those are 2 very recent examples of Jordan playing well, being effective, the team doing well with him on the floor and then Nash burying him to watch small ball blow a game.

Don't get me wrong. I 110% agree with you that Jordan is an inconsistent player who has lapses of effort. But lets not pretend that Nash just needed to see him play well to give him burn. He has BURIED jordan on the bench in other perfromances like this in the second half.

This AF.

Jordan is no model of consistency, but Nash deserves criticism for not playing "good DJ" enough. They locked horns, and now are trusting each other more. Either that, or they are performing above their head out of spite for the other. Either way, I like the results!

[MrDollarBills]

They really killing it now. I stopped watching sport talk shows for a while now because of dumb takes like this. Gave up on cable too, there is not a damn thing to watch.

It's not a dumb take though. If DJ plays with at least 75% of the effort he played with last night it goes a long way towards solveing our interior defense woes.

Obviously I don't expect him to be able to sustain this level of play at 30+ minutes per game, so we should still acquire another center for sure. But if DJ plays at a higher level on a consistent basis it takes some of the pressure of having to get interior help right away.

Than it goes for entire team. We playing half azz d all the time. No wonder almost all our losses came from teams with losing records. DJ is washed up there's no denying it. He won't provide type of games on consistent basis, that's why I said is dumb. Also we much better defensive team with green at five and data backs it up ( not that it means much right now, we right there top three with most different starting line ups ). Make just be spitting out some delusional lazy takes.

I don't think we are a better team defensively with Green at the 5 at all. We have no interior defense or rebounding when he is playing the 5.

Jordan's play yesterday says to me that we need to get in a big man that can rebound and shot block more than anything else. we all know Jordan isn't going to do what he did last night for the rest of the season.

[GTR11]

It's not a dumb take though. If DJ plays with at least 75% of the effort he played with last night it goes a long way towards solveing our interior defense woes.

Obviously I don't expect him to be able to sustain this level of play at 30+ minutes per game, so we should still acquire another center for sure. But if DJ plays at a higher level on a consistent basis it takes some of the pressure of having to get interior help right away.

Than it goes for entire team. We playing half azz d all the time. No wonder almost all our losses came from teams with losing records. DJ is washed up there's no denying it. He won't provide type of games on consistent basis, that's why I said is dumb. Also we much better defensive team with green at five and data backs it up ( not that it means much right now, we right there top three with most different starting line ups ). Make just be spitting out some delusional lazy takes.

I don't think we are a better team defensively with Green at the 5 at all. We have no interior defense or rebounding when he is playing the 5.

Jordan's play yesterday says to me that we need to get in a big man that can rebound and shot block more than anything else. we all know Jordan isn't going to do what he did last night for the rest of the season.

I'm not holding my breath here. Marks will have to pull out rabbit here. mMLE and DPE is not something you do much.
Most likely we will have to sacrifice one of our guards for second or late first in order to sway some deal to happen. Magic might be interested in Shamet due to their lack of guards for example.

[DarkXaero]

DJ played like a man possessed last night. Really impressive. For once he got rewarded with more PT.

And this is key. DJ played his best game of his Nets career, and got rewarded with 37 mins of playing time. This is why the **** about bashing Nash for not playing DJ enough is ridiculous to me. DJ doesn't get played enough because he plays at a subpar/lazy level most of the times. When he's actually playing with maximum effort, he'll get playing time. Nash isn't against centers or bigs, he just doesn't like our options there most of the times.

I just dont buy this... because we know otherwise.

We lost to the Wizards, with Jordan playing great (+15) and he never returned after 18 minutes despite us getting dominated in paint points and green/small ball not working. We saw it again in toronto. Jordan playing well, +8 in 18 minutes. toronto layup line at the rim. no resistance defensively and no lob threat. small ball not helping. we saw no jordan in the 4th/second half really.

Those are 2 very recent examples of Jordan playing well, being effective, the team doing well with him on the floor and then Nash burying him to watch small ball blow a game.

Don't get me wrong. I 110% agree with you that Jordan is an inconsistent player who has lapses of effort. But lets not pretend that Nash just needed to see him play well to give him burn. He has BURIED jordan on the bench in other perfromances like this in the second half.

I can't fully agree with this. Sure there are times where Nash could have played DJ more, but most of the time, the decision to not play DJ more was justified. Add in the fact that our small ball death lineup was supereffective, and is statistically one of our best lineups, there's reason to believe why he went with it so often.

[therealbig3]

This game was completely different than any other game in which Jordan may have played well. He may have legitimately been the MVP of the game, even moreso than Kyrie or Harden, because of what he was doing on both ends of the court. More importantly, he wasn't lazy, and he was contesting, moving his feet, fighting for boards. Rolling, moving with purpose, battling for position, had active hands. It was great to see.

Never seen a game nearly that good out of Jordan during his time here. Sure, he had a positive +/- in other games, but most of the time, that's because of circumstance and playing with other great players, not because he was playing oh so well. The decision to keep him on the bench was justified. He wasn't that impressive even in his good games.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Jordan played very well towards the end of last season and has shown flashes this season as well. He has just lacked consistency.

If he can go back to playing that way on a regular basis, many of our defensive problems will be solved.

I never bought that writing him off as washed up. I still think he needs a viable backup though.

[MrDollarBills]

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Good breakdown on how the Nets, particularly Jordan and Kyrie, cleaned up their mess against Indiana.