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Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Magic Expected To Retain Core

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#561 » by RookieStar » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:44 pm

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RookieStar wrote:Got a question for you guys.. if we make a trade NOW instead of the deadline.. like we trade Fourny AG etc for some good young pieces.. isn't there a chance where we win games by accident and thereby derailing our perfectly good tank?

I mean Im all for getting NAW, Trent etc etc but those guys might win us some games where we are fighting those other tankers for Cade.

Are we going to win games because of NAW? NAH!!


Hey, you never know. NAW , Trent, whoever might just think they are the next Tmac here and blow up. Thus we accidentally win more games than we should and thus lose our top4 spot.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#562 » by basketballRob » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:07 am

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basketballRob wrote:I could see several players not going to the allstar game this year. That's why i think it's likely Vuc will be there.

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And probably because he’s an All Star.. IDK... :roll:
I think Embiid and Sabonis were likely going to be the centers. Plus every projection I've seen doesn't having him making it.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#563 » by basketballRob » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:11 am

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basketballRob wrote:I could see several players not going to the allstar game this year. That's why i think it's likely Vuc will be there.

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And probably because he’s an All Star.. IDK... :roll:

Just ignore him. Every post is some anti-Vuc or Fournier post. I've given up debating with him on those two players awhile ago.

The fact that he compared Vuc to Alex Len should be enough evidence to show how hard it is to debate with someone like that about those two players.
Do you have one legit source that's predicting he'll be an allstar? I hope he makes it.


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Post#564 » by basketballRob » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:31 am

Melvin Frazier playing well for OKC G league.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#565 » by pepe1991 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:33 am

I highly doubt i'll tune in to watch hole Orlando game this year again.
8 men hurt, 1 starter aveliable, 3 rotation players on whole roster left to play.

I remember watching that piss poor 2012-13 roster with Harkless, Nelson and Glen Davis starting, but man, this is somehow even worst. Back then there was some hope team can build upon future draft picks...

kind a good reminder why teams don't tank like they used to, fans flat out leave.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#566 » by drsd » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:58 am

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nicnac215 wrote:Going forward we have the 4 spot filled it well with Isaac and Okeke. Ag and Aminu are redundancy with poor shooting. Im not disagreeing other players should go too but they both definitely need to be traded.



Since Gordon went down Clark has started all 4 games. He scored: 3, 0, 3, and 0 points. He was a combined 2-14 in those four games = 14% shooting.

So far this season Clark is averaging 21 mpg and in that time he is shooting 29% with a 3 ppg average. That is, every 7 minutes he scores 1 point.


Plus: Carter-Williams is on 34% shooting, Mason is so far at 38%. Anthony also on 38% shooting. Okeke on 40%. Fultz was also at 40% before going down. Bacon is at 41%; and offence is his "specialty". Ross is at 42%. Bone had 43% before being waived. Before his injury, Gordon was at 43%. Fournier is at 44% (in a contract year ?!?!?!?).

(( The only component non-Center on this roster for FG% is Ennis of all people at 48% )).


For those of you that do not believe Management is committed to the tank, see above.




Another anaemic 2 points, in a starting "effort".


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Post#567 » by The Effect » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:52 pm

Bamba really should just demand a trade\release at this point

If clifford is to stupid to really play him in a game missing that many starters, and sit him when he a +18 in 7 mins, then he's never going to seriously play him

Theres really 0 point to having bamba on the roster at this point
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Post#568 » by Husky1 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:51 pm

The Effect wrote:Bamba really should just demand a trade\release at this point

If clifford is to stupid to really play him in a game missing that many starters, and sit him when he a +18 in 7 mins, then he's never going to seriously play him

Theres really 0 point to having bamba on the roster at this point

Yeah he should. Just makes me sad. I’m still very high on him, if we actually developed him he’s a cheat code. He can be anything. His shooting and shot blocking raises our future ceiling so much higher than bloody Vucevic, he is just fools gold. His D is absolutely Horrendous. Mentally weak. The most perplexing thing for me is the silence from Welt/Ham on this? He’s their number 6 draft pick. We as fans deserve to know what’s going on? I wake up every day hoping for a Vooch/Birch trade? I’m scared they’re gonna trade Mo. Would have to be the final straw for me with this inept organisation
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

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Post#570 » by thelead » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:48 pm

Husky1 wrote:
The Effect wrote:Bamba really should just demand a trade\release at this point

If clifford is to stupid to really play him in a game missing that many starters, and sit him when he a +18 in 7 mins, then he's never going to seriously play him

Theres really 0 point to having bamba on the roster at this point

Yeah he should. Just makes me sad. I’m still very high on him, if we actually developed him he’s a cheat code. He can be anything. His shooting and shot blocking raises our future ceiling so much higher than bloody Vucevic, he is just fools gold. His D is absolutely Horrendous. Mentally weak. The most perplexing thing for me is the silence from Welt/Ham on this? He’s their number 6 draft pick. We as fans deserve to know what’s going on? I wake up every day hoping for a Vooch/Birch trade? I’m scared they’re gonna trade Mo. Would have to be the final straw for me with this inept organisation

Don't forget that our GM is the same guy who thought trading a buried Tobias Harris for a half season rental of JJ Redick was a good idea. We have no hope.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#571 » by The Effect » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:27 pm

thelead wrote:
Husky1 wrote:
The Effect wrote:Bamba really should just demand a trade\release at this point

If clifford is to stupid to really play him in a game missing that many starters, and sit him when he a +18 in 7 mins, then he's never going to seriously play him

Theres really 0 point to having bamba on the roster at this point

Yeah he should. Just makes me sad. I’m still very high on him, if we actually developed him he’s a cheat code. He can be anything. His shooting and shot blocking raises our future ceiling so much higher than bloody Vucevic, he is just fools gold. His D is absolutely Horrendous. Mentally weak. The most perplexing thing for me is the silence from Welt/Ham on this? He’s their number 6 draft pick. We as fans deserve to know what’s going on? I wake up every day hoping for a Vooch/Birch trade? I’m scared they’re gonna trade Mo. Would have to be the final straw for me with this inept organisation

Don't forget that our GM is the same guy who thought trading a buried Tobias Harris for a half season rental of JJ Redick was a good idea. We have no hope.

I hate that this is 100% true :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

God i hope these 3 are all fired before the draft, dont trust these guys at all to make a top 5 pick
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Post#573 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:13 am

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Post#574 » by RookieStar » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:19 am

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How much you wanna bet that he is gonna get injured again playing as our PG? Fultz, cole now Mason? That position is cursed this season. Time to call in the Winchester bros.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#575 » by basketballRob » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:23 am

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How much you wanna bet that he is gonna get injured again playing as our PG? Fultz, cole now Mason? That position is cursed this season. Time to call in the Winchester bros.
You forgot AG injured playing the point.

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Post#576 » by RookieStar » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:28 am

^^^ with that in mind.. anyone taking odds when that curse will hit Bacon?
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Post#577 » by DangerZone13 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:32 am

Could you guys see a possible Bamba for Terence Davis Jr. and either Matt Thomas or "the lucky penny" Patrick McCaw?
Gives you guys some youth in your ailing backcourt from the Raptors' glut of guards, and the Raps get a project big who they might as well play over Baynes, at least Bamba might see the floor in a new system?

Yes, Davis has the pending court issue, and McCaw is currently rehabbing a cyst removal from his knee, but Bamba has reported motivation issues. Fair deal?
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Post#578 » by cedric76 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:15 am

DangerZone13 wrote:Could you guys see a possible Bamba for Terence Davis Jr. and either Matt Thomas or "the lucky penny" Patrick McCaw?
Gives you guys some youth in your ailing backcourt from the Raptors' glut of guards, and the Raps get a project big who they might as well play over Baynes, at least Bamba might see the floor in a new system?

Yes, Davis has the pending court issue, and McCaw is currently rehabbing a cyst removal from his knee, but Bamba has reported motivation issues. Fair deal?



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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Where do we go from here? 

Post#579 » by pepe1991 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:22 am

I want Gary Trent in any potential Bamba/ Gordon trade
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Post#580 » by tiderulz » Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:44 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I want Gary Trent in any potential Bamba/ Gordon trade

yeah, but why does Portland do that?

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