Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1

[Bleeding Green]

Why are all white players compared to each other even if they have like zero similar traits?

It's legit when:

-- The correlation between whiteness and limited run-jump athleticism holds true.
-- Their notable skills happen to be similar (in this case 3-pt shooting aided by smart movement around the arc).

Bird/Jokic is another legit comparison. Actually, the fact that Bird/Luka and Bird/Jokic are BOTH legit comparisons reminds us just how awesome Bird was.

By way of contrast, if McHale is being compared to somebody, the other guy is probably black. Ditto Nash or, to name a lesser but still good white player, Ainge.

Payton Pritchard is more like Kyrie Irving than Duncan RObinson.

[Fierce1]

PP reminds me of a young Goran Dragic.

[zoyathedestroya]

Blazers sweep the Sixers. Having Kanter defend Embiid in single coverage was a factor in both games. I don't think Embiid got to his rebounding average or even the amount of shots he usually gets deep in the paint.

[Triple7]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

[Fierce1]

Talk about karma.

Sixer fan talks trash to Celtic fans, a few hours later, Sixers end up losing to the Blazers.

[zoyathedestroya]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Huh??? Kanter played lots of minutes against the Sixers and Kanter was a reason why we won that series. He rightfully benched Kanter against the Raptors. Did you forget the 4-minute stretch Kanter played against TOR wherein Raps scored in like 10 straight possessions?

Kanter is a situational big. He has a better offensive game than Thompson but is near unplayable against certain teams.

[Fierce1]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Kanter didn't stop Embiid.

It was guys like Toby and Danny Green that did not produce.

Toby was just 4-12 from the field.

Green only 2-4 shooting for 5 points.

TT is still an upgrade over Kanter on the defensive end.

Problem is TT is not an Embiid stopper.

[Fierce1]

Hard to believe that Al Horford is an upgrade over TT right now.

TT's inability to shoot from outside the paint is a liability.

[Triple7]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Huh??? Kanter played lots of minutes against the Sixers and Kanter was a reason why we won that series. He rightfully benched Kanter against the Raptors. Did you forget the 4-minute stretch Kanter played against TOR wherein Raps scored in like 10 straight possessions?

Kanter is a situational big. He has a better offensive game than Thompson but is near unplayable against certain teams.

Huh? Did you forgot how Stevens used Kanter in the Heat series? Theis was awful, and Stevens had no choice but to play Kanter, and he did well. The next game, back to the old rotations, and Kanter with minimal minutes. It’s with the coach. Kanter maybe bad at switching in the perimeter, but he is much better at defending in the post compared to any of our bigs. Did you also forgot how bad herro and Robinson as defenders, and yet their coach managed to do something to hide those deficiency. It’s with the coach.

[Triple7]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Kanter didn't stop Embiid.

It was guys like Toby and Danny Green that did not produce.

Toby was just 4-12 from the field.

Green only 2-4 shooting for 5 points.

TT is still an upgrade over Kanter on the defensive end.

Problem is TT is not an Embiid stopper.

Nah! TT is not an upgrade at all. And his lack of offensive skills is killing us. That guy doesn’t have any offensive skills at all. All he does is throw semi-hook to the rim. Low chance of going in, especially against legit bigs. kanter at least punishes other bigs down low on the offensive end.
And nobody is really stopping embiid, but at least the blazers used single coverage all the time. Embiid just makes all of his jumpshots. With us, we had to double everytime, leaving the shooters wide open.

[Fierce1]

Nah! TT is not an upgrade at all. And his lack of offensive skills is killing us. That guy doesn’t have any offensive skills at all. All he does is throw semi-hook to the rim. Low chance of going in, especially against legit bigs. kanter at least punishes other bigs down low on the offensive end.

Agree about Kanter punishing other bigs down low.

TT is an upgrade on the defensive end as long as he's not facing Embiid or Gobert.

Bigs like Bam and Sabonis were contained against TT and the Celts this season.
Last season Bam and Sabonis dominated the Celts.

I think it will be an upgrade if the Celts swap TT with Horford.

The good thing about TT is he's only a 9.5m per year guy.
His contract is easy to move.

[zoyathedestroya]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Huh??? Kanter played lots of minutes against the Sixers and Kanter was a reason why we won that series. He rightfully benched Kanter against the Raptors. Did you forget the 4-minute stretch Kanter played against TOR wherein Raps scored in like 10 straight possessions?

Kanter is a situational big. He has a better offensive game than Thompson but is near unplayable against certain teams.

Huh? Did you forgot how Stevens used Kanter in the Heat series? Theis was awful, and Stevens had no choice but to play Kanter, and he did well. The next game, back to the old rotations, and Kanter with minimal minutes. It’s with the coach. Kanter maybe bad at switching in the perimeter, but he is much better at defending in the post compared to any of our bigs. Did you also forgot how bad herro and Robinson as defenders, and yet their coach managed to do something to hide those deficiency. It’s with the coach.

Grant played Bam well in the minutes he went up against him. Ultimately, our poor offensive execution late in games and in the 4th was what cost us that series. People just want to focus on Theis in that last game for whatever reason. Herro went off for 37 pts. Kanter wouldn't help in that. Butler abused Kemba in the post in another game. Kanter wouldn't help with that. Tatum got blocked by Bam on a game-winning dunk. Kanter wouldn't have changed that. He would've even clogged the paint for drivers.

If anything, Stevens should've tried playing Timelord more to help our offense, but neither Timelord or Kanter would've helped in defending Miami's motion and spread offense.

[Triple7]

Nah! TT is not an upgrade at all. And his lack of offensive skills is killing us. That guy doesn’t have any offensive skills at all. All he does is throw semi-hook to the rim. Low chance of going in, especially against legit bigs. kanter at least punishes other bigs down low on the offensive end.

Agree about Kanter punishing other bigs down low.

TT is an upgrade on the defensive end as long as he's not facing Embiid or Gobert.

Bigs like Bam and Sabonis were contained against TT and the Celts this season.
Last season Bam and Sabonis dominated the Celts.

I think it will be an upgrade if the Celts swap TT with Horford.

The good thing about TT is he's only a 9.5m per year guy.
His contract is easy to move.

I agree! TT can hold his own on smaller bigs, but we need someone to at least hold his own against those guys. Embiid and Giannis would be a problem for us. Giannis at least doesn’t have a jumpshot.

[Fierce1]

I agree! TT can hold his own on smaller bigs, but we need someone to at least hold his own against those guys. Embiid and Giannis would be a problem for us. Giannis at least doesn’t have a jumpshot.

Agree.

Horford is the only one I can think of.

Steven Adams doesn't fit the TPE.

[Triple7]

Huh??? Kanter played lots of minutes against the Sixers and Kanter was a reason why we won that series. He rightfully benched Kanter against the Raptors. Did you forget the 4-minute stretch Kanter played against TOR wherein Raps scored in like 10 straight possessions?

Kanter is a situational big. He has a better offensive game than Thompson but is near unplayable against certain teams.

Huh? Did you forgot how Stevens used Kanter in the Heat series? Theis was awful, and Stevens had no choice but to play Kanter, and he did well. The next game, back to the old rotations, and Kanter with minimal minutes. It’s with the coach. Kanter maybe bad at switching in the perimeter, but he is much better at defending in the post compared to any of our bigs. Did you also forgot how bad herro and Robinson as defenders, and yet their coach managed to do something to hide those deficiency. It’s with the coach.

Grant played Bam well in the minutes he went up against him. Ultimately, our poor offensive execution late in games and in the 4th was what cost us that series. People just want to focus on Theis in that last game for whatever reason. Herro went off for 37 pts. Kanter wouldn't help in that. Butler abused Kemba in the post in another game. Kanter wouldn't help with that. Tatum got blocked by Bam on a game-winning dunk. Kanter wouldn't have changed that. He would've even clogged the paint for drivers.

If anything, Stevens should've tried playing Timelord more to help our offense, but neither Timelord or Kanter would've helped in defending Miami's motion and spread offense.

Well Bam would have a hard time at least, with Kanter or Timelord guarding him down low. He can’t just get the ball at the free throw line and go straight for a dunk, with those two, like what he did wtih Theis. I agree Grant at least has the body to defend Bam. Theis was scared of Bam. He even pump fakes Butler or Herro underneath the basket, and still would look to pass. He was definitely shooked. Anyways, i like Kanter’s offensive game. He is a good post up player, and is a decent passer. Something that we don’t have now. Would be good to have one, especially if the shots outside ain’t falling.

[Fencer reregistered]

Why are all white players compared to each other even if they have like zero similar traits?

It's legit when:

-- The correlation between whiteness and limited run-jump athleticism holds true.
-- Their notable skills happen to be similar (in this case 3-pt shooting aided by smart movement around the arc).

Bird/Jokic is another legit comparison. Actually, the fact that Bird/Luka and Bird/Jokic are BOTH legit comparisons reminds us just how awesome Bird was.

By way of contrast, if McHale is being compared to somebody, the other guy is probably black. Ditto Nash or, to name a lesser but still good white player, Ainge.

Payton Pritchard is more like Kyrie Irving than Duncan RObinson.

We can hope. But what he's actually accomplished in his very short pro career to date is more reminiscent of Robinson. He's legitimately one of the more effective move/catch/score 3-pt shooters in the league, this early in rookie season.

[Triple7]

I agree! TT can hold his own on smaller bigs, but we need someone to at least hold his own against those guys. Embiid and Giannis would be a problem for us. Giannis at least doesn’t have a jumpshot.

Agree.

Horford is the only one I can think of.

Steven Adams doesn't fit the TPE.

How about Jarrett Allen?

[Fierce1]

How about Jarrett Allen?

I would be ecstatic if the Celts can get Jarrett Allen.

But according to reports, the Cavs traded for Allen because they think he's their Center of the future.

[Bleeding Green]

It's legit when:

-- The correlation between whiteness and limited run-jump athleticism holds true.
-- Their notable skills happen to be similar (in this case 3-pt shooting aided by smart movement around the arc).

Bird/Jokic is another legit comparison. Actually, the fact that Bird/Luka and Bird/Jokic are BOTH legit comparisons reminds us just how awesome Bird was.

By way of contrast, if McHale is being compared to somebody, the other guy is probably black. Ditto Nash or, to name a lesser but still good white player, Ainge.

Payton Pritchard is more like Kyrie Irving than Duncan RObinson.

We can hope. But what he's actually accomplished in his very short pro career to date is more reminiscent of Robinson. He's legitimately one of the more effective move/catch/score 3-pt shooters in the league, this early in rookie season.

I'm not seeing the comparison beyond the racism. Duncan Robinson is a 6'7" forward who doesn't handle the ball ever, and only takes threes. Nesmith is the Robinson comp.

[JRoy]

Blazers beat the fully healthy Sixers twice, without Mccollum and Nurkic! Kanter playing well for them. Kanter > TT! Stevens just doesn’t know how to use players.

Kanter didn't stop Embiid.

It was guys like Toby and Danny Green that did not produce.

Toby was just 4-12 from the field.

Green only 2-4 shooting for 5 points.

TT is still an upgrade over Kanter on the defensive end.

Problem is TT is not an Embiid stopper.

Nah! TT is not an upgrade at all. And his lack of offensive skills is killing us. That guy doesn’t have any offensive skills at all. All he does is throw semi-hook to the rim. Low chance of going in, especially against legit bigs. kanter at least punishes other bigs down low on the offensive end.
And nobody is really stopping embiid, but at least the blazers used single coverage all the time. Embiid just makes all of his jumpshots. With us, we had to double everytime, leaving the shooters wide open.

TT is the Garbageman.

Every team needs one but if he is playing a lot of minutes you might have a problem.