Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[Big J]

What about Oubre & Wiseman for Jerami Grant?

I feel like he'd be exactly what we need, another long smart 2 way player in the dubs mold. I would imagine that there is also a Kerr connection with him having played with his uncle. Makes way more sense than Beal, who is smaller, more ball dominant, and doesn't have the same defensive tools.

Maybe for Jerami Grant and one of Saddiq Bey or Isaiah Stewart. Wiseman is a lot to give up without getting a center back in return. This would suck for Wiseman though because it seems like he needs someone like Draymond to help him develop. On the otherhand, Wiseman could also model his game after Blake and become an absolute monster.

The last few games without Wiseman and Looney has really how much better we are with 5 guys who can all handle the ball, pass and defend. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup. 1 Center is all we need. This isn't the 90's where we need to use 18 fouls on Shaq.

[wco81]

Wow getting back Stewart would be great but he's only 6-8?

[SAKURABA216]

What about Oubre & Wiseman for Jerami Grant?

I feel like he'd be exactly what we need, another long smart 2 way player in the dubs mold. I would imagine that there is also a Kerr connection with him having played with his uncle. Makes way more sense than Beal, who is smaller, more ball dominant, and doesn't have the same defensive tools.

Maybe for Jerami Grant and one of Saddiq Bey or Isaiah Stewart. Wiseman is a lot to give up without getting a center back in return. This would suck for Wiseman though because it seems like he needs someone like Draymond to help him develop. On the otherhand, Wiseman could also model his game after Blake and become an absolute monster.

The last few games without Wiseman and Looney has really how much better we are with 5 guys who can all handle the ball, pass and defend. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup. 1 Center is all we need. This isn't the 90's where we need to use 18 fouls on Shaq.

I think we have only been winning the past few games without a legit center because Curry has been playing out of his mind and we were also fortunate not to play against a team with an elite front court. We don't have anyone that can play in the post so last night we resorted to shooting 30 3-pointers in the first half alone. I don't think this is a winning formula in the long run.

[Big J]

Maybe for Jerami Grant and one of Saddiq Bey or Isaiah Stewart. Wiseman is a lot to give up without getting a center back in return. This would suck for Wiseman though because it seems like he needs someone like Draymond to help him develop. On the otherhand, Wiseman could also model his game after Blake and become an absolute monster.

The last few games without Wiseman and Looney has really how much better we are with 5 guys who can all handle the ball, pass and defend. It's like a homeless man's version of the death lineup. 1 Center is all we need. This isn't the 90's where we need to use 18 fouls on Shaq.

I think we have only been winning the past few games without a legit center because Curry has been playing out of his mind and we were also fortunate not to play against a team with an elite front court. We don't have anyone that can play in the post so last night we resorted to shooting 30 3-pointers in the first half alone. I don't think this is a winning formula in the long run.

Curry has been out of his mind, but spacing and playing with guys who know how to get him the ball and stay out of his way has been huge. Wiseman just wrecks the flow on offense and defense with Curry in there.

[killmongrel]

"The last few games show how much better we are without Wiseman."

What?

You mean when we implement our current version of the death lineup more in games, we're better? Wow, who knew. Of course the Warriros are at their best when Draymond is at the 5. We knew this already. It's about trying to implement a viable starting center so that Draymond doesn't die in the middle of the season.

Also, some of you talk as if we've just been miles better without Wiseman and Looney. Go 2-2 in Texas. And trail the f'ing Magic before winning the game. Yes, how amazing. Time to ship Wiseman out.

[whatisacenter]

FFS some of these Wiseman trade scenarios are ridiculous. I'm not of the idea that he is untouchable but his potential is worth far more than what is being thrown out there.

[cdubbz]

FFS some of these Wiseman trade scenarios are ridiculous. I'm not of the idea that he is untouchable but his potential is worth far more than what is being thrown out there.

Agree haha. I want Wiseman to gain experience this season and over the next few seasons narrow down on his true elite skill set. We gotta treat him like gold

[killmongrel]

So are we still interested in Giannis? Because there is no way the Bucks are going to the Finals, much less winning it during his tenure there.

[tarantism]

Before anybody asks: no, we should not trade Wiseman for John Collins.

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[shazam_guy]

Blake doesn't even look like Blake anymore. Knowledge, sure. Watching him play...not so much use.

[cdubbz]

So are we still interested in Giannis? Because there is no way the Bucks are going to the Finals, much less winning it during his tenure there.

We would be going all in for a championship if we were. Wiseman, wolves pick and probably our FRP would be gone as well as Wiggins.

I think we can still make a title run with Klay back, Wiseman in year 2 and potentially a lottery guy off the bench.

[killmongrel]

So are we still interested in Giannis? Because there is no way the Bucks are going to the Finals, much less winning it during his tenure there.

We would be going all in for a championship if we were. Wiseman, wolves pick and probably our FRP would be gone as well as Wiggins.

I think we can still make a title run with Klay back, Wiseman in year 2 and potentially a lottery guy off the bench.

I'm bullish on Wiseman, but if Giannis becomes available and we have the assets to get him, we gotta take it.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Minny gets oubre and wanamaker.

Both guys fit with how minnesota runs their offense. Oubre has played some pf in pkoenix and gs, so he replaces okogie.

Dlo
Bease
Ant
Oubre
Kat

Gsw gets rubio.

Hes big enough to defend sgs, so he can play next to curry when needed. Hes also a much better facilitator and fit for the motion offense.
And will be even better next year with klay returning.

[cdubbz]

can we make a trade for Aaron Gordon using Oubre Jr this off season? Gordon makes $16m his final season.

ultra small ball lineups

Oubre Jr & Wanamaker for Aaron Gordon.

[tarantism]

can we make a trade for Aaron Gordon using Oubre Jr this off season? Gordon makes $16m his final season.

ultra small ball lineups

Oubre Jr & Wanamaker for Aaron Gordon.

Warriors would have to include at least one decent FRP in that trade

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[azwfan]

can we make a trade for Aaron Gordon using Oubre Jr this off season? Gordon makes $16m his final season.

ultra small ball lineups

Oubre Jr & Wanamaker for Aaron Gordon.

We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).

[DAWill1128]

can we make a trade for Aaron Gordon using Oubre Jr this off season? Gordon makes $16m his final season.

ultra small ball lineups

Oubre Jr & Wanamaker for Aaron Gordon.

We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).

Totally on board, we need another good player in the mix next year. Gordon’s a good defender who can pass, rebound, and finish in traffic. I wouldn’t wait to long if I am Myers.

[tal57]

can we make a trade for Aaron Gordon using Oubre Jr this off season? Gordon makes $16m his final season.

ultra small ball lineups

Oubre Jr & Wanamaker for Aaron Gordon.

We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).

Totally on board, we need another good player in the mix next year. Gordon’s a good defender who can pass, rebound, and finish in traffic. I wouldn’t wait to long if I am Myers.

What gives you the confidence the other side is eager to trade Gordon and if the are, wouldn't they want and possibly get a better package than Oubre and Wanamaker.
I don't understand the proposals when fans want to deal their garbage for other team's quality.

Clippers fans are known for that. Go on their forums, they want the quality player to combine with Leonard and PG. They don't have 1st round picks for like the next millennium. So to get that guy, every proposal they have now is some kind of combination of 3-4 guys from their 10 to 15 roster. Or added to that a washed up veteran or the player that has seriously bad season and they are really soured on.

[DAWill1128]

We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).

Totally on board, we need another good player in the mix next year. Gordon’s a good defender who can pass, rebound, and finish in traffic. I wouldn’t wait to long if I am Myers.

What gives you the confidence the other side is eager to trade Gordon and if the are, wouldn't they want and possibly get a better package than Oubre and Wanamaker.
I don't understand the proposals when fans want to deal their garbage for other team's quality.

Clippers fans are known for that. Go on their forums, they want the quality player to combine with Leonard and PG. They don't have 1st round picks for like the next millennium. So to get that guy, every proposal they have now is some kind of combination of 3-4 guys from their 10 to 15 roster. Or added to that a washed up veteran or the player that has seriously bad season and they are really soured on.

Oubre and Wanamaker are just placeholder contracts to make it work financially. The picks can be negotiated.

Freeing your organization of 16 million when your not a playoff team and the guys got one year left is not a bad choice to make.

The Magic aren’t good, cap space and picks are a way forward. In terms of rumors the Magic have been shopping him for a while, if Isaac was healthy it might have already happened. They love Isaac but the organization also doesn’t believe him and Gordon are a great match together at the forward spots.

[azwfan]

We should be doing that now (well after hes back from injury).

Totally on board, we need another good player in the mix next year. Gordon’s a good defender who can pass, rebound, and finish in traffic. I wouldn’t wait to long if I am Myers.

What gives you the confidence the other side is eager to trade Gordon and if the are, wouldn't they want and possibly get a better package than Oubre and Wanamaker.
I don't understand the proposals when fans want to deal their garbage for other team's quality.

Clippers fans are known for that. Go on their forums, they want the quality player to combine with Leonard and PG. They don't have 1st round picks for like the next millennium. So to get that guy, every proposal they have now is some kind of combination of 3-4 guys from their 10 to 15 roster. Or added to that a washed up veteran or the player that has seriously bad season and they are really soured on.

Dont know if the Magic are eager to trade Gordon, but what I do know is...

There was a rumor last year they counter proposed a Suns Gordon offer with Gordon for Oubre which the Suns turned down. Then Oubre got hurt... and then Covid happened.

Also it seems logical that the Magic would be more interested in a wing than Gordon having Isaac at PF.

Also seems logical that the Magic may value salary flexibility over expiring Gordon.

Also seems logical the Magic could use a vet PG since they dont have any healthy ones (Fultz and MCW out for season).

So all of that makes sense IMO. Now where its likely off is in value. Thats what picks are for. Which and how many can be debated but I think a basis of Oubre and Wanamakashot for Gordon is solid.

Gordon isnt exactly an impact player so the pick cost shouldn’t be outrageous.