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[RiotPunch]

ETA: Expanded, could be two separate deals.

MKE: Noel, Bullock, Ennis, Quickley
NYK: Lopez, DiVincenzo, Nwora
ORL: Augustin, IND '25 2nd, MKE '23 2nd
CHA: Birch, MKE '22 2nd

Bucks dodge the tax while getting younger/more balanced. I love Donte. I have loved him since before we drafted him. Quickley is just a far better fit for us, and in my opinion, has a higher ceiling. A Portis/Noel tandem should be fine at the 5, and Bullock/Ennis provide reliable veteran wing depth.

Thibs notoriously struggles to trust rookies, and Robinson just fractured his hand the other night. This deal gives them a comparable young piece to Quickley in Donte, who is a bit more seasoned and plays a brand of ball that will make Thibs erect. Lopez steps in for the injured Robinson, while also mentoring the young big and providing spacing for Randle. Nwora pushes it over the finish line.

Magic bring in a familiar face to provide PG stability after a wild start to their season at the position. A couple of 2nds should hopefully be enough, but that might be a pipedream.

Hornets could use big depth, Birch fits nicely into their available cap space, and should be a solid backup for Zeller as they push for the playoffs. They also net a 2nd for helping facilitate.

Holiday / Forbes / Merrill
Quickley / Bullock / Connaughton
Middleton / Ennis / B.O.
Giannis / Craig / Thanasis
Portis / Noel / B.O.

[Touchpass]

I like that Riot. Id just keep Quickly, but they might be 8th seed drunk on top of everything you stated.

I forgot about the rules for trading firsts. We can’t trade our 2021 until after we make it, correct?

[ShootingtheJ]

ETA: Expanded, could be two separate deals.

MKE: Noel, Bullock, Ennis, Quickley
NYK: Lopez, DiVincenzo, Nwora
ORL: Augustin, IND '25 2nd, MKE '23 2nd
CHA: Birch, MKE '22 2nd

Bucks dodge the tax while getting younger/more balanced. I love Donte. I have loved him since before we drafted him. Quickley is just a far better fit for us, and in my opinion, has a higher ceiling. A Portis/Noel tandem should be fine at the 5, and Bullock/Ennis provide reliable veteran wing depth.

Thibs notoriously struggles to trust rookies, and Robinson just fractured his hand the other night. This deal gives them a comparable young piece to Quickley in Donte, who is a bit more seasoned and plays a brand of ball that will make Thibs erect. Lopez steps in for the injured Robinson, while also mentoring the young big and providing spacing for Randle. Nwora pushes it over the finish line.

Magic bring in a familiar face to provide PG stability after a wild start to their season at the position. A couple of 2nds should hopefully be enough, but that might be a pipedream.

Hornets could use big depth, Birch fits nicely into their available cap space, and should be a solid backup for Zeller as they push for the playoffs. They also net a 2nd for helping facilitate.

Holiday / Forbes / Merrill
Quickley / Bullock / Connaughton
Middleton / Ennis / B.O.
Giannis / Craig / Thanasis
Portis / Noel / B.O.

We change out half our roster without addressing our needs? We get worse at center and still don't have a reserve guard that can defend, but now don't have one that can handle the ball either. While doing this we lose 2nd rounders and Nwora.

Seems like the only goal here is to avoid the tax, which is breaking a promise to Giannis. Dangerous and pointless maneuver.

I wanted Quickley in the draft, but this is way too much to get him here.

[Fotis St]

I'm not sure how....but get DeRozan here if possible.

Lavine and DeRozan were my priority target lists.
Well we got Jrue and kept DDV ... too bad imo

Well, it can still be done in trade machine but Horst & Bud are too stubborn to do anything at this point. So for historic reasons, I will just post a potential trade that makes us better imo. Please don't throw me defensive stats and Vorps and that, I hear you stats guys, I respect you, so keep it polite, this is based on my basketball soul and hunch, so forgive me.

Bucks get : Lavine , DeRozan and Luke Kornet
Bulls get : Jrue Holiday and Donte
Spurs get : Markannen , Brook , DJA , DJW and Bulls 2021 1st

Not sure if Spurs are interested to trade DeRozan at this point , this should have been our pre Jrue trade plan. I would still attach any other asset Bulls or Spurs wanted. Maybe shift Donte to the Spurs and Bulls keeps their 1st.
https://tradenba.com/trades/VT3P-Y5dM

[Touchpass]

ETA: Expanded, could be two separate deals.

MKE: Noel, Bullock, Ennis, Quickley
NYK: Lopez, DiVincenzo, Nwora
ORL: Augustin, IND '25 2nd, MKE '23 2nd
CHA: Birch, MKE '22 2nd

Bucks dodge the tax while getting younger/more balanced. I love Donte. I have loved him since before we drafted him. Quickley is just a far better fit for us, and in my opinion, has a higher ceiling. A Portis/Noel tandem should be fine at the 5, and Bullock/Ennis provide reliable veteran wing depth.

Thibs notoriously struggles to trust rookies, and Robinson just fractured his hand the other night. This deal gives them a comparable young piece to Quickley in Donte, who is a bit more seasoned and plays a brand of ball that will make Thibs erect. Lopez steps in for the injured Robinson, while also mentoring the young big and providing spacing for Randle. Nwora pushes it over the finish line.

Magic bring in a familiar face to provide PG stability after a wild start to their season at the position. A couple of 2nds should hopefully be enough, but that might be a pipedream.

Hornets could use big depth, Birch fits nicely into their available cap space, and should be a solid backup for Zeller as they push for the playoffs. They also net a 2nd for helping facilitate.

Holiday / Forbes / Merrill
Quickley / Bullock / Connaughton
Middleton / Ennis / B.O.
Giannis / Craig / Thanasis
Portis / Noel / B.O.

We change out half our roster without addressing our needs? We get worse at center and still don't have a reserve guard that can defend, but now don't have one that can handle the ball either. While doing this we lose 2nd rounders and Nwora.

Seems like the only goal here is to avoid the tax, which is breaking a promise to Giannis. Dangerous and pointless maneuver.

I wanted Quickley in the draft, but this is way too much to get him here.

I don’t think it’s about this year. If the opinion is we don’t have enough talent to win with this roster we’re back to trying to clear our mistakes. This gives us what would be our best young prospect and gets rid of two bad contracts. Everyone incoming in the deal is expiring. Not sure how all the cap stuff works. How would we look next year after signing Jrue if we made this move and didn’t resign any of the incoming players?

[crowhead76]

ETA: Expanded, could be two separate deals.

MKE: Noel, Bullock, Ennis, Quickley
NYK: Lopez, DiVincenzo, Nwora
ORL: Augustin, IND '25 2nd, MKE '23 2nd
CHA: Birch, MKE '22 2nd

Bucks dodge the tax while getting younger/more balanced. I love Donte. I have loved him since before we drafted him. Quickley is just a far better fit for us, and in my opinion, has a higher ceiling. A Portis/Noel tandem should be fine at the 5, and Bullock/Ennis provide reliable veteran wing depth.

Thibs notoriously struggles to trust rookies, and Robinson just fractured his hand the other night. This deal gives them a comparable young piece to Quickley in Donte, who is a bit more seasoned and plays a brand of ball that will make Thibs erect. Lopez steps in for the injured Robinson, while also mentoring the young big and providing spacing for Randle. Nwora pushes it over the finish line.

Magic bring in a familiar face to provide PG stability after a wild start to their season at the position. A couple of 2nds should hopefully be enough, but that might be a pipedream.

Hornets could use big depth, Birch fits nicely into their available cap space, and should be a solid backup for Zeller as they push for the playoffs. They also net a 2nd for helping facilitate.

Holiday / Forbes / Merrill
Quickley / Bullock / Connaughton
Middleton / Ennis / B.O.
Giannis / Craig / Thanasis
Portis / Noel / B.O.

I thought I would expand on this idea.



Holiday - Smart - (2)Adams
Quickley - Forbes - Ennis III
Middleton - Craig - Nwora
Giannis - Portis - Thanasis
Theis - Bamba - (2)Diakite

2 open spots for a buyout candidate like Ariza, Gay, Mills or sign Diakite to the roster.

I would sign Diakite to roster and sign Myles Powell to a 2 way.
Buy out preference would be Ariza, Mills, Gay if available, long shot Otto Porter Jr.

[fan230]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

[Matches Malone]

The 2K trade scenarios are coming in hot!

[crowhead76]

The 2K trade scenarios are coming in hot!

Trying to battle the cold outside.

[ShootingtheJ]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

Our starting 5 has been far and away the best starting 5 in the East. The weakness is the bench, specifically the guards.

The defense is 7.4 points better per 100 with Donte on the floor, and we're 1st in offense. Donte is one of our strengths.

[jschligs]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

DDV is a perfectly fine starter when we are healthy. Jrue, Midds, Giannis, Brook and DDV is a very good starting five. But with Jrue out DDV has had to step up into more of a ball handler which is not his biggest strength.

Hell, DDV is having a fantastic year. 9.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1 SPG while shooting 40% from deep on 5 attempts a game. And his defense is just incredible.

The issue is, as others have mentioned, we fall off a steep cliff after Portis and maaaybe Forbes.

[fan230]

Yes the bench is a problem. Maybe the coach should seriously try out the 3 rookies. Nwora is now injured with his ankle.

[Daver]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

DDV is a perfectly fine starter when we are healthy. Jrue, Midds, Giannis, Brook and DDV is a very good starting five. But with Jrue out DDV has had to step up into more of a ball handler which is not his biggest strength.

Hell, DDV is having a fantastic year. 9.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1 SPG while shooting 40% from deep on 5 attempts a game. And his defense is just incredible.

The issue is, as others have mentioned, we fall off a steep cliff after Portis and maaaybe Forbes.

Your crazy if you think DDV is having a "incredible year" what are you watching 9.5 ppg us terrible for a starting SG hell WM brought you 11 a game n everyone wanted him gone.
People bitch n moan about Lopez sucking ass but im putting DDV as 1B no way IMO should he be a starter more like a 6th or 7th man at best.Im more than happy throwing him in a trade.
If horst can upgrade that 2 spot i hope as hell that he does

[LuessiT]

The bench is a problem right now but it definately is fixable. Biggest thing we need to adress is getting something out of the 11m we invested into the DJs. Either by figuring out how to get the most out of DJA or by figuring out who we can trade both DJs for.

[Daver]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

Absolutely that is our biggest need DDV IS not a starter on any team with ship aspirations

[jschligs]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

DDV is a perfectly fine starter when we are healthy. Jrue, Midds, Giannis, Brook and DDV is a very good starting five. But with Jrue out DDV has had to step up into more of a ball handler which is not his biggest strength.

Hell, DDV is having a fantastic year. 9.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1 SPG while shooting 40% from deep on 5 attempts a game. And his defense is just incredible.

The issue is, as others have mentioned, we fall off a steep cliff after Portis and maaaybe Forbes.

Your crazy if you think DDV is having a "incredible year" what are you watching 9.5 ppg us terrible for a starting SG hell WM brought you 11 a game n everyone wanted him gone.
People bitch n moan about Lopez sucking ass but im putting DDV as 1B no way IMO should he be a starter more like a 6th or 7th man at best.Im more than happy throwing him in a trade.
If horst can upgrade that 2 spot i hope as hell that he does

I said fantastic, not incredible. Incredible implies he's torching everyone. He's playing at my expectations if not a little better.

You say 9.5PPG is terrible for a starting SG...we have Giannis, Jrue and Midds above him. He isn't a going to be much higher.

[raferfenix]

The bench is a problem right now but it definately is fixable. Biggest thing we need to adress is getting something out of the 11m we invested into the DJs. Either by figuring out how to get the most out of DJA or by figuring out who we can trade both DJs for.

In theory a steady true PG 3-point sniper is just what we need next to Jrue either starting or off the bench.

DJA can’t defend of course. But on paper we should be getting more out of that signing.

And if he’s just not a good fit here for whatever reason some other team would likely want him. Agree that some kind of consolidation trade including DJ Wilson and whatever else could become our best bet to improve in that situation.

[ShootingtheJ]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

DDV is a perfectly fine starter when we are healthy. Jrue, Midds, Giannis, Brook and DDV is a very good starting five. But with Jrue out DDV has had to step up into more of a ball handler which is not his biggest strength.

Hell, DDV is having a fantastic year. 9.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1 SPG while shooting 40% from deep on 5 attempts a game. And his defense is just incredible.

The issue is, as others have mentioned, we fall off a steep cliff after Portis and maaaybe Forbes.

Your crazy if you think DDV is having a "incredible year" what are you watching 9.5 ppg us terrible for a starting SG hell WM brought you 11 a game n everyone wanted him gone.
People bitch n moan about Lopez sucking ass but im putting DDV as 1B no way IMO should he be a starter more like a 6th or 7th man at best.Im more than happy throwing him in a trade.
If horst can upgrade that 2 spot i hope as hell that he does

PPGZ!

Can't believe we're still here in 2021.

[skones]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

Absolutely that is our biggest need DDV IS not a starter on any team with ship aspirations

Kentavious Caldwell Pope was a starting SG on an NBA Champion 4 months ago.

Take a seat. Donte is not the issue.

[crowhead76]

Our weakest position last season was sg with Wes. It continues to be our weakest position this season as ddv is just not a good enough starter for a team with hopes of being a champion. Any trade imo needs to get us a much better sg.

Absolutely that is our biggest need DDV IS not a starter on any team with ship aspirations

Go look at the stat lines of the Lakers last year and tell us how they won a championship with KCP, Green, Bradley, Rondo, and Kuzma either starting or getting big minutes off the bench. Which one of those championship winning players would you swap out for Donte that would make the Bucks a championship team?

If you do not like that comparison, go look at Toronto the year before, Danny Green starting SG.

You are way off base here, Donte is not the issue.