Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Hayward thing screwed us. We got a TPE. But by the time he left Boston had missed out on a lot if the possible FA who could have helped.

I think this is a fair criticism of Ainge. His inability to gauge players’ willingness to stay has caused us many opportunities.

[JHTruth]

Don’t worry if Ainge trades for Harden he will be following him right out the door in 2 years

Here's the thing....Does anyone truly believe Danny Ainge will trade for James Harden? Very slim chance. But I did want to come on here to talk a bit about Danny Ainge. So I'm not responding back directly to your comment, just sharing some thoughts on DA.

First of all, I'm not in the fire DA camp (yet). The guy has done a heck of a job over the years and has done far more good then bad as Prez/GM. I think DA runs a one of the leagues top organizations and for that I thank him. But with that said, has he developed too much of a "Trader Danny" reputation in the league? Think about it....It just seems like he is having a much more difficult time making good trades nowadays VS earlier in his tenure. I believe it's because teams are afraid to trade with him....He's well respected as an executive and it just seems like opposing GM's when dealing with DA are thinking to themselves, "what does Danny know that my staff and I are missing?? you know what. I'll pass. I'm gonna go with this other deal instead." I certainly believe Danny is TRYING to get big deals done. I just don't think he's been able to pull it off.

Draft wise he's been good drafting at the top, not so good drafting in the middle to late first round. So overall he's solid here, but his staff absolutely stinks at evaluating international prospects and they seem to always go with "safe" picks or highly rated HS players that fell off some. I'm not overly impressed with their drafting. and it's coming back to haunt them.

Looking at this current situation, my concerns heading in are already becoming an issue. They are paper thin. Not enough depth, not enough facilitating. As a result it looks like Tatum is trying to do too much, Smart is playing out of position, and overall the team just doesn't look good at all. They have Kemba at big money for 3 more years which really doesn't look good right now unless he's able to come back fully healthy (I doubt it), and in comparison to other east teams, it looks like Boston is falling down the standings VS moving up towards being a contender.

why draft Nesmith at #14 then not even play him a second in the first 3 games? Why keep going with Grant Williams who looks absolutely terrible? Semi is Semi, but again why is he locked in to a rotation spot? Why hasn't Danny used at least one of his TPE's to bring in SOMEONE that can help? nobody is saying blow his load now and use the Hayward TPE....but if Danny is going to hold off on using it, the team is going to fall further and further down the standings. and God for big JB or JT or Smart gets covid or injured. The team would lose every game if that was the case.

I just don't understand what the point of bringing Thompson/Teague in is if they don't plan on making more moves....Those are championship contender type moves bringing in veterans like TT & Teague.

Play Nesmith. Play Pritchard. Sit Semi & Grant down. I'm hopeful DA has moves up his sleeve and the team gets to where we all want to see them. just frustrated at their offseason and what I'm seeing on the court right now.

Kyrie gone. Horford gone. Hayward gone. Rozier gone. All Ainge has to show for it is an injured bad contract in Kemba and a TPE

There are things to criticize Danny for but not drafting international players is not one of them. Most international players are absolutely horrible. Picking in the mid-first/20's is always a major crap shoot. Pritchard and Rob look legit and that's a major win considering where they were picked. Grant looks scary so far we'll see. Nesmith, jury is out

[GoGreen]

They lost Hayward for nothing (wouldn't surprise me if he's unable to use the trade exception) and the bench continues to be weak because of how many wasted picks he's had over the past 7 years.

On top of that he signed a max contract to Walker who has 3 years on his contract and is untreatable because his knee is complete junk.

Teams like the bucks, heat, nets bucks and even atlanta are getting better meanwhile the Celtics are trending in the wrong direction. I just don't know how much longer Wyc and Co should keep Danny in charge.

The Kemba knee thing is inexcusable. How do you not know this could potentially happen before signing him? We had Rozier to keep, so we didn't NEED the guy. Granted, Terry wasn't viewed in a great light at the time, but ffs, I take him over someone who can't even play!

Kemba was pursued by the Lakers, Mavs, Knicks, as well as his own team at the time the Hornets. That's just how it works in the NBA, if you are good enough teams will offer the max or close to it even if you come with injury concerns. The Nets signed KD knowing he'd be out a full year and signed Kyrie knowing he's missed 20 games every season.
The idea that we had Rozier so we don't need much better players is just...

Yea if you have a chance to get KD and Kyrie you do it. That is not equal to Kemba. And my point is, how does this happen? Did you not do your homework? Why even risk it if you know this could happen? Just sign Terry in that case.

[BK_2020]

Literally everyone knew he had bad knees and they all pursued him. That's how it works. You don't just sign Terry because Kemba with injury risk is better than Rozier even if you could magically guarantee 100% availability.

[Fencer reregistered]

Just a guess, but Ainge probably won't be fired until the Celtics miss the ECF a few years in a row.

[KingofTheClay]

Hopefully he’s done soon.

I think it’s time for a new start.

Danny looks lost out there. Like a deer in headlights.


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[BostonCouchGM]

Just a guess, but Ainge probably won't be fired until the Celtics miss the ECF a few years in a row.

no doubt. Our owner is laughing as the money rolls in and he's able to make the playoffs without having to pay luxury tax like so many other teams do. He'd rather that imo than making the Finals and having to pay the tax. So Danny is giving him exactly what he wants. And Danny apologists are happy to defend him year after year of pretending so it's not like there's any heat coming from them to fire him. Plus, the sycophantic local media fawns over everything he does because they're desperate for access so they don't put any pressure on him like he deserves either. Sorry, we're stuck with this guy until he decides it's time to go then we're probably going to be stuck with his inept son after that.

[BigTrade92]

Definitely time.

[GoCeltics123]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

[CSL_1904]

He should've gone last year

[Feed Your Head]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know some people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

It’s not that I want to trade him, or settle for a **** package. I just don’t know what they’re supposed to do, other than hope for a minor miracle lol.

[GoCeltics123]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

The TPE is the way. All we need is one player who can hit a **** shot when they're open.

[Feed Your Head]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

The TPE is the way. All we need is one player who can hit a **** shot when they're open.

I think this team is much more than one TPE player away, personally.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Definitely time.

To be fair to Danny, when I brought up concerns about the roster and its lack of depth in the preseason, I was assured by virtually everyone that I was wrong and we were deep.

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However, Ainge is actually on the hot seat for once, crazy to say

[Saint Lazarus]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know some people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

It’s not that I want to trade him, or settle for a **** package. I just don’t know what they’re supposed to do, other than hope for a minor miracle lol.

Trade him for what?

[GoCeltics123]

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

The TPE is the way. All we need is one player who can hit a **** shot when they're open.

I think this team is much more than one TPE player away, personally.

This team is like the 2018 Cavs. We are more away than just the TPE.

But this roster, as much as we want to clown it, was 8-3 to start. They are not this bad. Something is wrong.

[Feed Your Head]

If he doesn't blow this team up outside of the Jays, then it's time for him to go.

Ever since Tatum got Covid, this team has fallen apart.

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know some people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

It’s not that I want to trade him, or settle for a **** package. I just don’t know what they’re supposed to do, other than hope for a minor miracle lol.

Trade him for what?

Just more of in general statement, like I was willing to trade him for Harden, still would take the chance on Towns. But mostly just spitballing, because I don’t know how Danny can fix this.

[Feed Your Head]

The TPE is the way. All we need is one player who can hit a **** shot when they're open.

I think this team is much more than one TPE player away, personally.

This team is like the 2018 Cavs. We are more away than just the TPE.

But this roster, as much as we want to clown it, was 8-3 to start. They are not this bad. Something is wrong.

Even when we were 8-3, we were beating crap teams and had a minuscule point differential/net rating. I think it lulled some into thinking the team was better than it is.

[Roddy]

He is probably here as long as he wants to.

I would waive Stevens, tho.

[zoyathedestroya]

Here’s the thing, there’s no real path. You can’t get anything for the rest of this roster. I know people think I hate Jaylen, but mostly I think this team is stuck, and trading him is one of the few ways to get some talent.

The TPE is the way. All we need is one player who can hit a **** shot when they're open.

I think this team is much more than one TPE player away, personally.

There's a deeper issue than just upgrading your 7th or 8th guy on the roster. This team has more talent than what IT had along with him but something's terribly off. Been the most ardent fan of Brad, but this **** is systemic. It's more than talent. Look at the top first.