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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1561 » by tarantism » Sun Feb 7, 2021 6:01 pm

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tarantism wrote:Exactly. He's a nice scorer but he isn't worth the Wolves pick or Wiseman.

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How can you possibly know that ?


Have you seen lavine play defense? Hes in that dlo tier.
Yeah not to mention that he's a lot of empty calories on offense. He needs the ball in his hands and a lot of reps to effect the game the way he does with Chicago.

We're talking about our only assets of value here. Its easy to look at box scores and see high scoring totals and pine for guys but if you actually watch LaVine play, its hard to see the fit here and he certainly doesn't put us over the top or elevate us to the point of being worth a top asset.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1562 » by Ilovethebay » Sun Feb 7, 2021 7:34 pm

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Ilovethebay wrote:How can you possibly know that ?


Have you seen lavine play defense? Hes in that dlo tier.
Yeah not to mention that he's a lot of empty calories on offense. He needs the ball in his hands and a lot of reps to effect the game the way he does with Chicago.

We're talking about our only assets of value here. Its easy to look at box scores and see high scoring totals and pine for guys but if you actually watch LaVine play, its hard to see the fit here and he certainly doesn't put us over the top or elevate us to the point of being worth a top asset.

He’s been improving lately with his defense according to all that I’ve read. And this notion that he needs the ball too much isn’t true. He’s putting up 25 ppg on 50/40/90 splits. That’s the very epitome of an efficient scorer
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1563 » by tarantism » Sun Feb 7, 2021 7:57 pm

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Have you seen lavine play defense? Hes in that dlo tier.
Yeah not to mention that he's a lot of empty calories on offense. He needs the ball in his hands and a lot of reps to effect the game the way he does with Chicago.

We're talking about our only assets of value here. Its easy to look at box scores and see high scoring totals and pine for guys but if you actually watch LaVine play, its hard to see the fit here and he certainly doesn't put us over the top or elevate us to the point of being worth a top asset.

He’s been improving lately with his defense according to all that I’ve read. And this notion that he needs the ball too much isn’t true. He’s putting up 25 ppg on 50/40/90 splits. That’s the very epitome of an efficient scorer
Watch the games though. He's also averaging 5ast/4to on 30% usage. But you've really got to watch the Bulls to get a feel for LaVine and how he effects the game. I wouldn't say he has improved on defense either, if you're going by impact stats keep in mind that he plays with good defenders around him.

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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1564 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Feb 7, 2021 8:24 pm

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tarantism wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Have you seen lavine play defense? Hes in that dlo tier.
Yeah not to mention that he's a lot of empty calories on offense. He needs the ball in his hands and a lot of reps to effect the game the way he does with Chicago.

We're talking about our only assets of value here. Its easy to look at box scores and see high scoring totals and pine for guys but if you actually watch LaVine play, its hard to see the fit here and he certainly doesn't put us over the top or elevate us to the point of being worth a top asset.

He’s been improving lately with his defense according to all that I’ve read. And this notion that he needs the ball too much isn’t true. He’s putting up 25 ppg on 50/40/90 splits. That’s the very epitome of an efficient scorer


By trading for lavine you might as well have kept dlo. In both situations you have to punt defense.

Wiggs has to go the other way in any deal and you cant expect klay to chase dame on one night then have to deal with the kawhis and pgs etc on other nights coming off of surgery.
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Post#1565 » by Mylie10 » Sun Feb 7, 2021 9:37 pm

How appropriate that the year the Knicks probably get back in the Playoffs, Spike Lee won’t be sitting court side to cheerlead.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1566 » by Ilovethebay » Sun Feb 7, 2021 10:28 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
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tarantism wrote:Yeah not to mention that he's a lot of empty calories on offense. He needs the ball in his hands and a lot of reps to effect the game the way he does with Chicago.

We're talking about our only assets of value here. Its easy to look at box scores and see high scoring totals and pine for guys but if you actually watch LaVine play, its hard to see the fit here and he certainly doesn't put us over the top or elevate us to the point of being worth a top asset.

He’s been improving lately with his defense according to all that I’ve read. And this notion that he needs the ball too much isn’t true. He’s putting up 25 ppg on 50/40/90 splits. That’s the very epitome of an efficient scorer


By trading for lavine you might as well have kept dlo. In both situations you have to punt defense.

Wiggs has to go the other way in any deal and you cant expect klay to chase dame on one night then have to deal with the kawhis and pgs etc on other nights coming off of surgery.

Klay doesn’t even make it back until mid season at best. Dlo and Lavine should never be mentioned in the same breath. He’s putting up Curry type numbers and you’re comparing him to the human tank machine. The Curry/Mulder and Curry/Lee lineups do just fine. A Curry Lavine backcourt would be amazing. Turnovers are gonna be high with a 30% usage rate. Here he wouldn’t have to handle the ball as much. Let’s just agree to disagree :nod:
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1567 » by watch1958 » Mon Feb 8, 2021 5:54 am

Kings playing well lately.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1568 » by killmongrel » Mon Feb 8, 2021 5:56 am

Mylie10 wrote:How appropriate that the year the Knicks probably get back in the Playoffs, Spike Lee won’t be sitting court side to cheerlead.


Bullock was somebody I was looking at in the trade market, but with them doing well, I guess they're not tanking. Hehe.
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Post#1569 » by Quazza » Tue Feb 9, 2021 8:50 am

watch1958 wrote:Kings playing well lately.


Fox is taking over 4th quarters right now
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1570 » by Mylie10 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm

Fox and Haliburton changing the Kings narrative.

And believe it or not, Barnes is a steadying force for that team. Perfect role for him right now.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1571 » by Old_Blue » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:28 am

Chris Boucher's stats this season when he plays at least 24 minutes:

19 points, 10 rebounds, 2.5 blocks, 57% shooting, 45% from three, 70% free throws. Dude's got good hands too. He hardly ever turns it over.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1572 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:30 am

Iggy having one of his worst seasons in his career, 36.5/32.9/45.4 on 21 MPG.

All numbers well below his career averages.

No way Miami picks up the team option for $15 million next season, though they may have been counting on signing Giannis so they may have to find other uses for the cap room they managed.

The 36.5% FG% is a bad number. Is he not getting transition basket or rim-runner plays with the Heat for easy layups?

Or can he no longer finish like he was even two years ago with the Warriors?

He's played 23 out of 25 of the games Heat have played including the game going on right now. So he's not had injury problems.

He might only get minimum contract offers next season. Someone might throw something around $5 million, hoping his experience will be decisive in a playoff series.

If he only gets a minimum contract offer, he might just retire. Or maybe try to hook on with a playoffs team late in the season.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1573 » by xdrta+ » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:05 am

wco81 wrote:Iggy having one of his worst seasons in his career, 36.5/32.9/45.4 on 21 MPG.

All numbers well below his career averages.

No way Miami picks up the team option for $15 million next season, though they may have been counting on signing Giannis so they may have to find other uses for the cap room they managed.

The 36.5% FG% is a bad number. Is he not getting transition basket or rim-runner plays with the Heat for easy layups?

Or can he no longer finish like he was even two years ago with the Warriors?

He's played 23 out of 25 of the games Heat have played including the game going on right now. So he's not had injury problems.

He might only get minimum contract offers next season. Someone might throw something around $5 million, hoping his experience will be decisive in a playoff series.

If he only gets a minimum contract offer, he might just retire. Or maybe try to hook on with a playoffs team late in the season.


If you've seen him play this season you know, it's time for Iggy to retire. I imagine, if he wants to come back to the Bay Area, there's a spot for him in the FO, or as an assistant coach. He and Leandro could have a good time together.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1574 » by tal57 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:00 am

We keep asking where is the shooting? I am watching Miami-Houston game and looking at this guy Strus. Playing in the relatively close game in the 4th Q. Have 19 points with about 4 min left, 5-7 from 3. I guess there are shooters, you just have to find them.
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Post#1575 » by Impuniti » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:14 am

tal57 wrote:We keep asking where is the shooting? I am watching Miami-Houston game and looking at this guy Strus. Playing in the relatively close game in the 4th Q. Have 19 points with about 4 min left, 5-7 from 3. I guess there are shooters, you just have to find them.

I feel like Warriors need a 3rd playmaker after Steph and Dray, even more than another shooter. Anyone but Trashamaker.
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Post#1576 » by ChuckDurn » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:57 pm

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tal57 wrote:We keep asking where is the shooting? I am watching Miami-Houston game and looking at this guy Strus. Playing in the relatively close game in the 4th Q. Have 19 points with about 4 min left, 5-7 from 3. I guess there are shooters, you just have to find them.

I feel like Warriors need a 3rd playmaker after Steph and Dray, even more than another shooter. Anyone but Trashamaker.

Yep.

I was really worried, prior to the season starting, that Curry was the only main rotation player who could shoot above the league average percentage on 3-pointers. I was wrong, several players have surprised me by shooting pretty well (or in Muller’s case, wedging his way into the rotation).

On offense, we definitely need to prioritize getting another playmaker..... which is why the idea of a “Lonzo for Oubre” trade makes a lot of sense to me.
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1577 » by Hopper15 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:05 pm

Do Charlotte and SA get no worse than a 4 seed if they win their divisions or is it a free-for-all for seeding?
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Re: Around the NBA IV 

Post#1578 » by HiRez » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:47 pm

Read on Twitter


What needs to happen to get Lin up to the bigs for a few games? Mannion too although as I understand it they're a little limited how many NBA games he can play in?
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Post#1579 » by xdrta+ » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:02 pm

HiRez wrote:
Read on Twitter


What needs to happen to get Lin up to the bigs for a few games? Mannion too although as I understand it they're a little limited how many NBA games he can play in?


IMO, those stats reflect the level of competition more than anything else. But, starting Feb 23 teams can sign 10-day contracts, so they could sign Lin to 10-day. Two consecutive actually, if they want. Mannion is on a 2-way, so they could bring him up any time. 2-way contracts can play up to 50 NBA games.
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Post#1580 » by tarantism » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:09 pm

I broke it all down in the GLeague thread, but neither Mannion or Lin are ready to play backup PG imo and replace Wanamaker. At best either would be a wash in his stead.

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