Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[Monix]

here's an idea everyone will hate:

2 part trade with Detroit

Ferguson, Bradley, Poirier & 2021 1st (lottery protected) for Wright & Ellington

2021 Sixers 2nd for Plumlee (into trade exemption from Horford trade)

Wright and Ellington give you veteran depth at G, Plumlee gives you a better C to start when Embiid rests and an alternative to the Dwight rollercoaster when matchups dictate.

Starting 5 remains the same - Embiid/Harris/Simmons/Green/Curry
Bench is Milton/Wright/Ellington/Scott/Howard/Plumlee/Maxey/Korkmaz/Thybulle/Joe

That bench gives a better chance to not get crushed when Doc goes with an all-bench unit

[Kobblehead]

Now that's treating the value of a first round pick like garbage.

We absolutely cannot get to the point where we're throwing away draft picks for single-digit scoring, marginal role players.

[51X3RF4N]

here's an idea everyone will hate:

2 part trade with Detroit

Ferguson, Bradley, Poirier & 2021 1st (lottery protected) for Wright & Ellington

2021 Sixers 2nd for Plumlee (into trade exemption from Horford trade)

Wright and Ellington give you veteran depth at G, Plumlee gives you a better C to start when Embiid rests and an alternative to the Dwight rollercoaster when matchups dictate.

Starting 5 remains the same - Embiid/Harris/Simmons/Green/Curry
Bench is Milton/Wright/Ellington/Scott/Howard/Plumlee/Maxey/Korkmaz/Thybulle/Joe

That bench gives a better chance to not get crushed when Doc goes with an all-bench unit

Can Bradley even be traded back to Detroit in the same season he was traded from Detroit?

I'd look at 2 2nd round picks, Poirier, Ferguson and Scott...

For Ellington, Wright and Plumlee via TPE.

Then I'd flip another 2nd, Bradley and Korkmaz for Bjelica.

Embiid/Plumlee/Howard
Harris/Bjelica/Reed
Simmons/Green/Thybulle
Wright/Ellington/Joe
Curry/Milton/Maxey

This means giving up future 2nd round picks that are likely to be traded or sold anyhow.

But, you upgrade the starting unit with a playmaker who can get his own shot and defend. You upgrade the bench consistency with better shooting and a better backup C.

Balances the overall rotation.

You put Danny and Wayne back on the same team and bring them both off the bench.

That bench is a very good overall lineup. Could really use all of them in certain lineups with Ben too.

Puts Howard, Thybulle and Maxey on the deep bench where they belong for now. Situational you can still bring in Matisse for defensive assignments.

And you add 2 contracts that do not expire, leading to more continuity next year when you'd have 11 guys back.

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[the_process]

Raps are in on Drummond.

It seems at first glance it would be 4 for 2 deal including Powell, and the Cavs cut Dellavedova.

However it seems to me it would be more advantageous if TOR just swapped Lowry to a third team, and used part of those assets to get Drummond.

[the_process]

Ferguson, Curry, Poirier, and the 2024 MIA 2nd (which is top 55 protected so really just for show) to DET for Wright and Ellington

[PhillyNj]

You’d seriously trade Curry. The best shooter in the nba. For these guys. I like them but there not worth Curry.
The Sixers are already bad at making threes.

[the_process]

You’d seriously trade Curry. The best shooter in the nba. For these guys. I like them but there not worth Curry.
The Sixers are already bad at making threes.

Meh. You're probably right but I am not a Curry fan and think he needs to be replaced.

[LeonJordanJr24]

I ain't trading Curry .

Kinda into Tobias for Hield and Bjelica swap.

[Negrodamus]

Bjelica and Hield are such garbage, I'd be irate.

[DCasey91]

I’m a firm driver of the Harris for Hield+Bjelica pick swap trade lol. It makes perfect sense we don’t bleed assets and get a return of a starter and bench player. Once that’s done we have 9 legit rotation pieces

Milton
Hield
Green
Simmons
Embiid

Curry
Howard
Thybulle
Bjelica

Is a fine 9 man rotation.

Time and time again your not getting much for Harris’s contract. Somebody mentioned his value will rise over time. What are people talking about? It’s a massive overpay not just for his last year (40 mill) but for every year in between.

Hield’s contract is front loaded.

And fwiw Hield/Maxey/Milton + picks are far more attractive trade package for our “hypothetical” outside star. Where will get such player beats me.

No one likes Oladipo fine. Good luck finding that fantasy player that this team desperately needs to go anywhere.

[PhillyNj]

here's an idea everyone will hate:

2 part trade with Detroit

Ferguson, Bradley, Poirier & 2021 1st (lottery protected) for Wright & Ellington

2021 Sixers 2nd for Plumlee (into trade exemption from Horford trade)

Wright and Ellington give you veteran depth at G, Plumlee gives you a better C to start when Embiid rests and an alternative to the Dwight rollercoaster when matchups dictate.

Starting 5 remains the same - Embiid/Harris/Simmons/Green/Curry
Bench is Milton/Wright/Ellington/Scott/Howard/Plumlee/Maxey/Korkmaz/Thybulle/Joe

That bench gives a better chance to not get crushed when Doc goes with an all-bench unit

Good trade. And as a Sixers fan I’ll take it.

[youngcrev]

Raps are in on Drummond.

It seems at first glance it would be 4 for 2 deal including Powell, and the Cavs cut Dellavedova.

However it seems to me it would be more advantageous if TOR just swapped Lowry to a third team, and used part of those assets to get Drummond.

I'd try to snatch up Powell in that deal.

[youngcrev]

That Detroit deal would be spending a ridiculous amount of money in tax this year and next (and giving up a 1st) for what would be a really modest improvement.

[MoeGreene]

Ellington is a nice local guy story, but bro should not even be a consideration.

[Negrodamus]

I don't understand, what does Buddy Hield provide over Tobias? I don't think there's a facet of the game where he's better other than 3PAr and Buddy being 5 months younger, I guess lol. Then we'd add a guy who literally rather go to Europe than play for us not to mention he's playing arguably the worst defense in the league. If you can believe it, he has 0 stls and 2 blks on the season while shooting 26% from three. And it's not like this is some trash team, they are still in the playoff hunt in the West with two distributing stars in Fox and Haliburton.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these Hield trades.

[Stanford]

I don't understand, what does Buddy Hield provide over Tobias? I don't think there's a facet of the game where he's better other than 3PAr and Buddy being 5 months younger, I guess lol. Then we'd add a guy who literally rather go to Europe than play for us not to mention he's playing arguably the worst defense in the league. If you can believe it, he has 0 stls and 2 blks on the season while shooting 26% from three. And it's not like this is some trash team, they are still in the playoff hunt in the West with two distributing stars in Fox and Haliburton.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these Hield trades.

He's a more willing shooter, which would help. But yeah, he stinks.

[DCasey91]

I don't understand, what does Buddy Hield provide over Tobias? I don't think there's a facet of the game where he's better other than 3PAr and Buddy being 5 months younger, I guess lol. Then we'd add a guy who literally rather go to Europe than play for us not to mention he's playing arguably the worst defense in the league. If you can believe it, he has 0 stls and 2 blks on the season while shooting 26% from three. And it's not like this is some trash team, they are still in the playoff hunt in the West with two distributing stars in Fox and Haliburton.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these Hield trades.

What’s taking crazy pills is believing Harris’s contract is any good, it’s horrible, we are hard capped as long as we pay him, and there’s no chance we’re a contender. Hields more athletic and fits with Simmons far better.

If you believe you have 2/3’s (Embiid/Simmons) of a championship core and not getting any closer then when you first started in building a contending team for 5 years. It’s screams incompetence at the highest lvl.

The strategy is to pivot into a star outside threat whenever that comes along. Getting out of Horford’s contract was a great start (we had a to give up a 1st rounder because the GM/Mangement are clueless and irresponsible). And getting Curry was a genius move.

Hield + Maxey + Milton + picks package is >>>>> Harris (Any GM would hang up the phone if trading their star as soon as Harris is mentioned).

I truely believe even if you deliberately tried to stuff up everything in the past 3-4 seasons you still wouldn’t come close lol.

From drafting/Development/trades/contracts/coaching all of it has been a sh**tshow of the highest order.
We traded Holmes for cash
We drafted Bridges then let him go then next year we drafted a far less player in Thybulle. And those are the little moves.

Every draft we’ve drafted non translatable players at all.

I like Maxey and even I know he has a suspect jumpshot. The draft is a crapshoot but cmon it’s not that hard to evaluate talent.

I took off my rose colored glasses ages ago. Now it’s just comedy

[DCasey91]

We do nothing and sit tight:

Bridges
Simmons
Embiid

Bench:
Milton
Saric
Holmes

Well what do you know NBA players that fill a role quite nicely. 3 starters and 3 bench players.
Oh yeah and a very nice contract in Covington. That’s a way better pathway than anything the management has tried. Basically what I’m saying is the fish rots from the head down. Last 3-4 years they have been pretty clueless even if it was a college managed team lol.

[51X3RF4N]

I don't understand, what does Buddy Hield provide over Tobias? I don't think there's a facet of the game where he's better other than 3PAr and Buddy being 5 months younger, I guess lol. Then we'd add a guy who literally rather go to Europe than play for us not to mention he's playing arguably the worst defense in the league. If you can believe it, he has 0 stls and 2 blks on the season while shooting 26% from three. And it's not like this is some trash team, they are still in the playoff hunt in the West with two distributing stars in Fox and Haliburton.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these Hield trades.

I think the biggest thing in my opinion would be the contract.

Yes, Buddy shoots more 3s from deep and can do it off the dribble.

Yes, Buddy working a 2 man game with Embiid would be sickening and impossible to defend like JJ was.

But the biggest thing in my mind is the $14M difference in the 2021 salary figure.

It will be much easier to trade Buddy if things need to be blown up than to trade Tobias.

That $14M salary difference could be invaluable in terms of flexibility in trades.

But, best case scenario Buddy is the missing offensive piece we've been wanting who can play the 2 man game with Embiid like JJ used to do, and it becomes an unstoppable duo, and it also at that point allows Seth to come off the bench and be a contributor of scoring in the bench lineups.

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[Negrodamus]

Hield has regressed dramatically in the past three years, which is crazy since he should be good since he's being spoon fed shots. He's not athletic, nor is he a good creator of offense. He's somehow a worse distributor than Harris, especially in a year where Harris has been instructed to not be a ball stopper or create like he did last year.

To top it all off, he and Joerger hate each other. The ONLY attractive part of this deal is to relieve ourselves of some cap space. It makes our team decidedly worse and brings in a guy who has clearly never bought into a team's game plan since joining the NBA.

There's no plan moving forward with this trade other than the potential of future trade flexibility(?). Meanwhile Tobias is a fringe all-star who has completely bought into his role on the team. I'd rather just get a Delon Wright who can actually create offense then an overpaid chucker who plays zero defense.