Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

TheStig · Post #1281 » by **TheStig** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:14 pm

Now that Wentz and Philly have no buyers. Would be nice to get him for a 2nd or 3rd.

Bulls69 · Post #1282 » by **Bulls69** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:41 pm

Indomitable wrote:
CjayC wrote:I like Jones a lot. He throws a real accurate deep ball, better than Lawrence even from what I'm seeing in the footage. I just don't know if you trade up for him. I'd almost rather suck it out, and pick at the top end of the '22 draft vs giving up assets to move up. I get the feeling that the McCaskey's like them and their job isn't in as much danger as the external pressure that's being put on them, so they may not feel the need to make any drastic moves yet. I don't envy Pace or Nagy right now, they've got some tough decisions to make.

Screw Pace.

He waited 3 years to draft the perfect quarterback. He managed to draft the only failure out of 3 players. He chose the oldest, with the worst resume, and show least amount of leadership. Plus he gave up assets to get him.

Pace has been a drafted one real pro bowler. The players who stepped up were signed, traded for, or were drafted prior to his arrival.

He also stupidly has miss manage the cap. Pace deserves to be fired.

You nailed it this is why the Bears should fired Pace

Post #1283 » by **fleet** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:04 pm

fleet wrote:

Read on Twitter

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Post #1284 » by **fleet** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:49 am

NFL.com ranked the QBs. Bad news, Trubisky outranked Minshew and Wentz. Also bad news, Trubisky was 31st ranked. RG3 is still in the league too.

https://www.nfl.com/news/qb-index-ranking-the-59-starting-quarterbacks-of-the-2020-nfl-season

dice · Post #1285 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:53 pm

stephen a smith thinks the bears will roll again w/ trubisky

Bulls69 · Post #1286 » by **Bulls69** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:29 pm

dice wrote:stephen a smith thinks the bears will roll again w/ trubisky

Not going to happen

Jeffster81 · Post #1287 » by **Jeffster81** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:40 pm

dice wrote:stephen a smith thinks the bears will roll again w/ trubisky

That would require Mitch to re-sign with the Bears, which I believe we all know that literally is not going to happen.

And Carson Wentz apparently prefer going to Indy. Well, I prefer him going to Indy, also. Bears should aim higher (no I am not talking about Mitch's overthrows) than Carson Wentz.

dice · Post #1288 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:43 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:
dice wrote:stephen a smith thinks the bears will roll again w/ trubisky

That would require Mitch to re-sign with the Bears, which I believe we all know that literally is not going to happen.

And Carson Wentz apparently prefer going to Indy. Well, I prefer him going to Indy, also. Bears should aim higher (no I am not talking about Mitch's overthrows) than Carson Wentz.

smith noted that trubisky had a better year than wentz (who would not be as mobile behind a questionable O-line) as why he thought trubisky would be back. i don't think that he is factoring in ryan pace's mindset/contract status

MalagaBulls · Post #1289 » by **MalagaBulls** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:57 pm

Taylor Moton getting tagged. He was on my RT wishlist.

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Post #1290 » by **fleet** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:12 am

SI reporter on Cowherd:

"I think Chicago is the frontrunner this morning, and I do know there's a feeling inside that building from Ryan Pace, from the coaching staff, Matt Nagy, John DeFilippo [...] they believe, mechanically, they can fix him.

"I think the issue right now, Colin, is where Carson Wentz wants to go. I think it's become pretty clear he'd rather go to Indianapolis, and I think part of it now, for the Eagles, is, 'Alright, if our best return now is Chicago over Indy, then we need to convince Carson Wentz, this is the only place you're going, bud, and you need to buck up and accept this, and realize the Bears are going to give you a good chance.'

"I think it's pretty clear at this point that the Bears have pushed harder than the Colts to get Carson Wentz. [...] I think the Bears would like to at least know that Carson Wentz is on board before pulling a trigger on a trade."

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-rumors-chicago-bears-hung-one-thing-carson-wentz-trade-talks

Chi town · Post #1291 » by **Chi town** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:51 am

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MAQ · Post #1292 » by **MAQ** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:09 pm

Chi town wrote:

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Two opinions talking past each other, not at each other. The level of bears interest in Wentz has no effect in the accuracy of Wentz not wanting the bears.

MisterRoy · Post #1293 » by **MisterRoy** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:22 pm

Sounds like maybe the talk of Wentz to Bears might have been from Philly to get the Colts to up their offer. I don't think it's working.

Sent from somewhere you've never been.

Jeffster81 · Post #1294 » by **Jeffster81** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:08 pm

MisterRoy wrote:Sounds like maybe the talk of Wentz to Bears might have been from Philly to get the Colts to up their offer. I don't think it's working.

Does not sound like the Bears will get Wentz, which is probably the best news so far in the off-season for the Bears. IDK what the Bears will do at QB (especially since it was reported a while ago that Pace was going to be "aggressive" at the position this off-season). I hate safe but the most pragmatic thing to do is to sign a guy like Fitzpatrick or Taylor and draft a QB early. I still prefer an OT in the first, so maybe a QB in the 2/3 rounds?

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1295 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:Sounds like maybe the talk of Wentz to Bears might have been from Philly to get the Colts to up their offer. I don't think it's working.

Does not sound like the Bears will get Wentz, which is probably the best news so far in the off-season for the Bears. IDK what the Bears will do at QB (especially since it was reported a while ago that Pace was going to be "aggressive" at the position this off-season). I hate safe but the most pragmatic thing to do is to sign a guy like Fitzpatrick or Taylor and draft a QB early. I still prefer an OT in the first, so maybe a QB in the 2/3 rounds?

They'll probably overpay for Carr.

MisterRoy · Post #1296 » by **MisterRoy** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:Sounds like maybe the talk of Wentz to Bears might have been from Philly to get the Colts to up their offer. I don't think it's working.

Does not sound like the Bears will get Wentz, which is probably the best news so far in the off-season for the Bears. IDK what the Bears will do at QB (especially since it was reported a while ago that Pace was going to be "aggressive" at the position this off-season). I hate safe but the most pragmatic thing to do is to sign a guy like Fitzpatrick or Taylor and draft a QB early. I still prefer an OT in the first, so maybe a QB in the 2/3 rounds?

They'll probably overpay for Carr.

I am newer to paying this much attention to football. We do need a franchise quarterback but we also need an offensive line to protect him. It feels like a 2 year process because we need so much work and only have so many resources.

Maybe we address the o-line this year, rolling with Foles at QB and look for that QB next year? Pace shouldn't be around so maybe the new GM addresses the issue?

Sent from somewhere you've never been.

Jeffster81 · Post #1297 » by **Jeffster81** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:48 pm

MisterRoy wrote:I am newer to paying this much attention to football. We do need a franchise quarterback but we also need an offensive line to protect him. It feels like a 2 year process because we need so much work and only have so many resources.

The Bears probably won't get a franchise QB until they tank. Right now, I want competent QB play.

Maybe we address the o-line this year, rolling with Foles at QB and look for that QB next year? Pace shouldn't be around so maybe the new GM addresses the issue? [/quote]

I think the interior (Mustiper/Daniels/Whitehair) of the line is solid and I have no issues there. The Bears cannot go into the season with Leno/Massie as your tackles, regardless on who the QB is. Which is why OT should be the Bears pick in the first rd. There's going to be a few real good OT available, so there is no excuse.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1298 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:57 pm

MisterRoy wrote:
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:
Does not sound like the Bears will get Wentz, which is probably the best news so far in the off-season for the Bears. IDK what the Bears will do at QB (especially since it was reported a while ago that Pace was going to be "aggressive" at the position this off-season). I hate safe but the most pragmatic thing to do is to sign a guy like Fitzpatrick or Taylor and draft a QB early. I still prefer an OT in the first, so maybe a QB in the 2/3 rounds?

They'll probably overpay for Carr.

I am newer to paying this much attention to football. We do need a franchise quarterback but we also need an offensive line to protect him. It feels like a 2 year process because we need so much work and only have so many resources.

Maybe we address the o-line this year, rolling with Foles at QB and look for that QB next year? Pace shouldn't be around so maybe the new GM addresses the issue?

Sent from somewhere you've never been.

Foles is worse than Trubisky. If Pace wants to get fired then yes that is an option. But if he wants to squeeze a bit more time working for this team he will have to make an upgrade at that position. A convincing upgrade.

And as far as the Oline. We saw massive improvements just from play calling changes as well as plugging in Mustipher to some dead weight getting injured. We'll get Daniels back and getting rid of some of the turn styles like Leno, Massie, and Coward will help. I would love to get a LT early in the draft and maybe sign another OT.

Both areas need improvement. But I don't think we need to skip QB this year just to rebuild the Oline. And I don't think Pace has the time to wait either.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1299 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:58 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:I am newer to paying this much attention to football. We do need a franchise quarterback but we also need an offensive line to protect him. It feels like a 2 year process because we need so much work and only have so many resources.

The Bears probably won't get a franchise QB until they tank. Right now, I want competent QB play.

Maybe we address the o-line this year, rolling with Foles at QB and look for that QB next year? Pace shouldn't be around so maybe the new GM addresses the issue?

I think the interior (Mustiper/Daniels/Whitehair) of the line is solid and I have no issues there. The Bears cannot go into the season with Leno/Massie as your tackles, regardless on who the QB is. Which is why OT should be the Bears pick in the first rd. There's going to be a few real good OT available, so there is no excuse.

WOW you beat me to it

Susan · Post #1300 » by **Susan** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:31 pm

MisterRoy wrote:Sounds like maybe the talk of Wentz to Bears might have been from Philly to get the Colts to up their offer. I don't think it's working.

Sent from somewhere you've never been.

All of the buzz is coming from Philly, there should be zero desperation from the Bears (and Indy) in this instance because they can go through FA or the Draft to get a QB whereas Philly pretty much needs to rid themselves of Wentz by March 19th.