Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested?

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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#21 » by Bentley1225 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:14 pm

Westbrook or Horford are only 2 contracts within reasonable value as options for Detroit. It’s seems that Horford is a good fit in OKC though.

The only deal I could see is

Griffin + McGruder for Westbrook.

Otherwise a buyout is coming. Blake is worth $3-5 million/year at this point which is 10x what he’s being paid.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#22 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:26 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
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zimpy27 wrote:Miami could trade Iggy, Leonard, Harkless and Bradley for Blake, Ellington and Svi

Dragic, Butler, Robinson, Griffin, Bam
Nunn, Herro, Ellington/Svi, Precious, Olynyk


No take backs. :lol:


It works for Miami. They took on these contracts to have a go for a solid PF this coming off-season but he resigned and so did all the major free agents.

Griffin allows them to have a large contract come off the books for the 2022 free agent hunting off-season. Or trade a large expiring next year.

I imagine Miami could squeeze a pick out of it too. They also get a couple nice 3 shooters. An area they need help in right now.


I'd think the Pistons would trade him for any expirings and Svi seems like a minor attachment in this context. Of course Ellington has zero role in our future but might help a contender.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#23 » by Yenrallik1111 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:33 pm

I am curious why his numbers are so down. I don't follow the pistons enough. is because of grant getting time and touches? injuries? just plan sucking? combo? feel like there should be a decent fit where his numbers could get better. maybe boston? they need a change. solidifying brown/tatum at the 2/3 would be good. Blake might really benefit from the celtic culture/environment.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#24 » by Kilo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:34 pm

Westbrook is possibly the only chance given Wizards play better without him. But Detroit taking on an extra year of 40M plus seems unlikely.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#25 » by Kordic27 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:46 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:I don't know if Blake would ever want to come back to the Clippers, but our whole fanbase would be thrilled if he did.


Given how it seems he feels about Balmer, I’d be surprised if he didn’t sign with the Lakers...
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#26 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:51 pm

Kordic27 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:I don't know if Blake would ever want to come back to the Clippers, but our whole fanbase would be thrilled if he did.


Given how it seems he feels about Balmer, I’d be surprised if he didn’t sign with the Lakers...


So you are saying he loves Balmer and is going to go sabotage the Lakers from within?
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#27 » by Jack Dempsey » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:56 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Jack Dempsey wrote:Didn't the Pistons do something similar with Josh Smith like 10 years ago? He had a much lower salary though but more years left on his contract.


I believe they stretched Josh. Don't give Weaver any ideas.

Omg that's even worse lol
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#28 » by BBallFreak » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:22 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Miami could trade Iggy, Leonard, Harkless and Bradley for Blake, Ellington and Svi

Dragic, Butler, Robinson, Griffin, Bam
Nunn, Herro, Ellington/Svi, Precious, Olynyk


No take backs. :lol:


It works for Miami. They took on these contracts to have a go for a solid PF this coming off-season but he resigned and so did all the major free agents.

Griffin allows them to have a large contract come off the books for the 2022 free agent hunting off-season. Or trade a large expiring next year.

I imagine Miami could squeeze a pick out of it too. They also get a couple nice 3 shooters. An area they need help in right now.

This is just such an awful deal for Miami. Why are we doing them the favor of taking on that albatross for expiring deals? And we give up Iggy and Bradley, two excellent defenders (when our defense has struggled this year)?

I'd want multiple assets coming back our way, and even then I'd need to believe he could be a halfway decent player again (currently, I don't believe that).

I'd pass and not think twice about it.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#29 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:36 pm

If the Pistons still had Rose I’d say DRose/Blake for Wall would be worth tossing out
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Post#30 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:40 pm

Blake for Love saves the Cavs money in year three but they would have to be pretty sure that Love is unmovable and I don’t think that’s true. He’s a bad contract but he’s not reliant on athleticism and washed like Blake.
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Post#31 » by jayu70 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:40 pm

Jack Dempsey wrote:Didn't the Pistons do something similar with Josh Smith like 10 years ago? He had a much lower salary though but more years left on his contract.

Then they stretched his salary over a million years - I think last year was the final payment.
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Post#32 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:44 pm

If the Pistons stretched Blake they would have a 15 million dollar cap hit on the books for the next five years. Would be an unprecedented level of self sabotage.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#33 » by DetroitDon15 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If the Pistons still had Rose I’d say DRose/Blake for Wall would be worth tossing out


You could easily swap Wright for Rose in this deal. The issue for me is Detroit doesn’t want the extra year of Wall without compensation. Maybe send a second in the deal to get the Detroit first rounder back.
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Post#34 » by gswhoops » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:53 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If the Pistons stretched Blake they would have a 15 million dollar cap hit on the books for the next five years. Would be an unprecedented level of self sabotage.

I think they can only stretch his last year at this point but doesn’t make it any less of a bad idea
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Post#35 » by Harper4Ferry? » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:03 pm

Stretch would be something like 12.96 million per year for 21-22, 22-23, 23-24. it would save almost 26m vs the 21-22 cap
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Post#36 » by gswhoops » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:15 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:Stretch would be something like 12.96 million per year for 21-22, 22-23, 23-24. it would save almost 26m vs the 21-22 cap

And it would cost the same amount against their ‘23 and ‘24 caps.

Unless they have some very specific plan with the extra money they should just eat their vegetables now instead of putting it off.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#37 » by chrbal » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:20 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If the Pistons stretched Blake they would have a 15 million dollar cap hit on the books for the next five years. Would be an unprecedented level of self sabotage.

I think we already maxed out the amount of money we can use under the stretch provision (or doing it to Blake’s contract puts us over it). So yay? At least we kind of protected ourselves from ourselves.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#38 » by Snakebites » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:22 pm

gswhoops wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If the Pistons stretched Blake they would have a 15 million dollar cap hit on the books for the next five years. Would be an unprecedented level of self sabotage.

I think they can only stretch his last year at this point but doesn’t make it any less of a bad idea

Apparently the CBA limits how much of your cap can be stretched, and Blake's cap hit would put us above that limit. We can't do it.
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Re: Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested? 

Post#39 » by TheNewEra » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:57 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:I don't know if Blake would ever want to come back to the Clippers, but our whole fanbase would be thrilled if he did.


I haven’t heard of any healing situation involving Blake and the Clips. If AD is really going down for a while and this gets done he’s more likely to go to LAL out of spite
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Post#40 » by vege » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:01 am

Yenrallik1111 wrote:I am curious why his numbers are so down. I don't follow the pistons enough. is because of grant getting time and touches? injuries? just plan sucking? combo? feel like there should be a decent fit where his numbers could get better. maybe boston? they need a change. solidifying brown/tatum at the 2/3 would be good. Blake might really benefit from the celtic culture/environment.


He is very slow nowadays, he lost all his athleticism due to his injuries, but I think he also lost his motivation. Whenever he wants to win badly, he will try hard and get decent numbers, but most of the times he seems uninterested and he plays absoluttely no defense.

He doesn't fit Detroit's new culture, we're building around athletic guys who can shoot and play defense like Josh Jackson/Saddiq Bey and Jerami Grant, Blake is only taking minutes from those guys at this point.

I think the most logic would be a buyout, but I could see Weaver attaching Sekou and/or Svi and try to move Blake for expirings at this point, neither Sekou or Svi are his guys, so I don't expect them to be on the roster next season.

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