The Positivity Thread

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Thanks for posting that, pack. It really made my day .. so many great memories! “Dr. Octavius arms!”

During that season, there were games I would just watch KG the entire time, and he would make so many jaw-dropping plays, even without the ball, that I would think, “Did I really just see that?!?” I was really frustrated to see Duncan get an MVP honor that Garnett deserved too. He was so unappreciated elsewhere because he played in Minnesota with so little talent.

I was so happy to see him finally get a ring, even if it was in Boston, that I can’t even watch “Uncut Gems.” Too scary.


EDIT: btw, if you’re interested in a sample of Ben Taylor’s “Greatest Peaks” series, he was on RealGM radio last month talking about it. Pretty interesting stuff, especially if you are a fan of NBA history.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucG9kY2FzdG9uZS5jb20vcG9kY2FzdD9jYXRlZ29yeUlEMj0xMjEx/episode/ZTMwMDhmZjYtODU2Ni00N2I1LTg1ZDctMmEzZjhjMjZlZDI2?hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwis2-fy6uzuAhUMCM0KHdiiDmEQieUEegQIEBAU&ep=6

[Norseman79]

I am still hoping to see a lineup of Edwards, Beasley, Mcdaniels, Vanderbilt and KAT. Between Beas and Edwards they have been handling the ball some anyway, and the offense we are kind of running doesn't seem point guard dependent. McDaniels and Vanderbilt add a bunch of hustle, defense, and some rebounding. Mcdaniels 3pt shot is a thing of beauty, and honestly Vanderbilt made some beautiful passes and plays with Kat. I also think a second line of Rubio/JMac, Nowell, Culver/Layman, Juancho, and Naz could be nice. Nowell, Juancho, and Naz add shooting as COULD Culver/Layman.

This opens up a trade for Okoge, Russell, and potentially a few others. We still need things, but why not see what clicks. And to be honest, we do need to see DLo play with Kat...(as much as I dislike DLo).

Hoping Culver gets some good bench run at the 2/3 to accurately assess where he is and if he is actually improving. Because he was doing well until they started doing dumb things like playing him at the four and jerking him around again.

[_AIJ_]

We should be good next season. Having crowds watching should help the team

[Calinks]

Everyone wanted a trade to feel better about this team. That didn't happen but two of our best 5 players are back by next week, it will be like we made a trade. I think the team will look better by season's end. We need that offense so badly right now.

[Klomp]

Everyone wanted a trade to feel better about this team. That didn't happen but two of our best 5 players are back by next week, it will be like we made a trade. I think the team will look better by season's end. We need that offense so badly right now.

Those two additions will help the team more than any trade would have. Don't have to lose players in the process.

[theGreatRC]

DLO & Beas coming back is basically two new players playing under a new system. It should be fun watching this team run at full health

[Sugarless]

Years, lustra, decades go by... and the concept of addition by subtraction -and its opposite, subtraction by addition- keeps being foreign to this board. It'll never cease to amaze me.

[RiRuHoops]

Everyone wanted a trade to feel better about this team. That didn't happen but two of our best 5 players are back by next week, it will be like we made a trade. I think the team will look better by season's end. We need that offense so badly right now.

Those two additions will help the team more than any trade would have. Don't have to lose players in the process.

I think DLo, Beas, Ant in the same lineup will make for a good comedy of who can get the shot away faster than the other two. KAT just will be there for the offensive boards. But at least Dlo got a better eFG% than Ant so him taking away shots ain't that bad.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Everyone wanted a trade to feel better about this team. That didn't happen but two of our best 5 players are back by next week, it will be like we made a trade. I think the team will look better by season's end. We need that offense so badly right now.

Those two additions will help the team more than any trade would have. Don't have to lose players in the process.

I think DLo, Beas, Ant in the same lineup will make for a good comedy of who can get the shot away faster than the other two. KAT just will be there for the offensive boards. But at least Dlo got a better eFG% than Ant so him taking away shots ain't that bad.

Yes. It might get ugly.

But the season is already a loss. So let them all play together... see that there will be chemistry issues... find out which one you like the least... and make a move this summer.

I expect a lot of "rest/injury" days, too... as the Wolves still have Rubio, Nowell, Okogie and Culver in the mix, too...

[Jedzz]

Those two additions will help the team more than any trade would have. Don't have to lose players in the process.

I think DLo, Beas, Ant in the same lineup will make for a good comedy of who can get the shot away faster than the other two. KAT just will be there for the offensive boards. But at least Dlo got a better eFG% than Ant so him taking away shots ain't that bad.

Yes. It might get ugly.

But the season is already a loss. So let them all play together... see that there will be chemistry issues... find out which one you like the least... and make a move this summer.

I expect a lot of "rest/injury" days, too... as the Wolves still have Rubio, Nowell, Okogie and Culver in the mix, too...

difficult to look at it positively

Values drop when performances do. On star teams when they each take a little off their top to allow each other it's because the Wins are worth it and the Wins make up the difference in their perceived value. But those stars will also keep their averages up and not look like negatives because none of them are negatives hurting each other. This logjam is different and there is a negative player among them that brings the risk of lowering everyone's value. One hint, It's not Dlo like some here love to report. It wouldn't matter if they plan to work through it and build with this roster through the long haul, but I don't think anyone sees any longterm trust in Rosas to do that either.

It will be very important for Finch to work playing time out correctly. If it's handled sloppily and they just randomly try different fits through the rest of games he could hurt any values going into the offseason. Personally I think he's got to reel in Edwards' chucking with a heavy hand. Use his gravity at the net, use Beasley/Dlo on the outside and them creating space for him inside. Then maybe. Keep him off ball completely, he doesn't need to be the initial threat. They can find him cutting if they get him doing it. He can take a pass and drive it in all he can. Just get Edwards to lay off the worthless chucking when he'll have three 39-41% shooters on the floor with him. Keep Edwards moving around and opponents having to follow him.

[Calinks]

People talk about how bad we will be or how bad the defense will be. Yea, maybe, but it's not like we are good right now. This team is terrible, so if it gets more terrible after we get our guys back how much more can we drop off? I just think there is a lot more potential to go up then go down when you re bring back two 16PPG+ scorers.

Also on the positive side, if they are absolutely horrible, guess what, everyone will know for sure that's a terrible combination. That means Rosas cannot afford to start next season with it. Them playing together ASAP for as long as they can this season just helps us get on the right path to start next season.

No matter what it's a good thing if these guys can stay healthy and finish 75 percent of these games together. We really need to see what this team looks like with this combination. Good, bad, ugly, we need to know.

[Baseline81]

People talk about how bad we will be or how bad the defense will be. Yea, maybe, but it's not like we are good right now. This team is terrible, so if it gets more terrible after we get our guys back how much more can we drop off? I just think there is a lot more potential to go up then go down when you re bring back two 16PPG+ scorers.

Also on the positive side, if they are absolutely horrible, guess what, everyone will know for sure that's a terrible combination. That means Rosas cannot afford to start next season with it. Them playing together ASAP for as long as they can this season just helps us get on the right path to start next season.

No matter what it's a good thing if these guys can stay healthy and finish 75 percent of these games together. We really need to see what this team looks like with this combination. Good, bad, ugly, we need to know.

That's more of a double-edged sword.

If Russell doesn't improve, how does Rosas trade him without having to attach either a pick or young player to him?

[Jedzz]

I am still hoping to see a lineup of Edwards, Beasley, Mcdaniels, Vanderbilt and KAT. Between Beas and Edwards they have been handling the ball some anyway, and the offense we are kind of running doesn't seem point guard dependent. McDaniels and Vanderbilt add a bunch of hustle, defense, and some rebounding. Mcdaniels 3pt shot is a thing of beauty, and honestly Vanderbilt made some beautiful passes and plays with Kat. I also think a second line of Rubio/JMac, Nowell, Culver/Layman, Juancho, and Naz could be nice. Nowell, Juancho, and Naz add shooting as COULD Culver/Layman.

This opens up a trade for Okoge, Russell, and potentially a few others. We still need things, but why not see what clicks. And to be honest, we do need to see DLo play with Kat...(as much as I dislike DLo).

Hoping Culver gets some good bench run at the 2/3 to accurately assess where he is and if he is actually improving. Because he was doing well until they started doing dumb things like playing him at the four and jerking him around again.

What worked with Culver last year was someone feeding him as a cutter. So he and Layman sharing the 3 duties as you show seems fine.

As for the starters if everyone is healthy, who really knows. Does Edwards have the awareness for roaming and cutting? If he could that would be one way to make it work. But I'm not sure anyone can keep his hands off the damn ball so...he's likely going to act like a point hogging control of it unless Dlo puts his foot down. Should be interesting.

As for your need to keep telling us you dislike Dlo, well, now I dislike you. I felt the need to tell you.

[Jedzz]

People talk about how bad we will be or how bad the defense will be. Yea, maybe, but it's not like we are good right now. This team is terrible, so if it gets more terrible after we get our guys back how much more can we drop off? I just think there is a lot more potential to go up then go down when you re bring back two 16PPG+ scorers.

That's more of a double-edged sword.

If Russell doesn't improve, how does Rosas trade him without having to attach either a pick or young player to him?

Why does he have to improve? He's been our 1a this season. This junk is all in your heads! Can we fire some of you as Wolves fans already?

If Edwards doesn't improve, does Rosas have the cahonas to trade him, can he even trade him without attaching a pick or positive player to him? Apparently Rosas had No takers since the draft.

And Calinks? What is this "two 16PPG scorers" thing about?

Russell has been a 19.3 PPG scorer this year.
Beasley has been a 20.5 PPG scorer this year

In the Spring last year Russell was 21.7 PPG(23.1 between War/Wolves) and Beasley was 20.7 and they didn't need Edwards to muck this up. Russell has been scoring 21PPG since 18-19 season.

16PPG players my left foot! Maybe as Edwards hogs ball for his inefficient junk that will be their ceiling.

[Jedzz]

What this team hasn't had the luck to see play out is having Dlo, Beasley and Towns play together for any string of 10 or even 5 games. I would love it if they did so for ten straight games and stuck Edwards on DNPCD to allow it to happen.

[Magoose]

That's more of a double-edged sword.
If Russell doesn't improve, how does Rosas trade him without having to attach either a pick or young player to him?

The good thing is: It will be easier to move DLO in either the offseason or trade deadline since his contract will expire after 2 years, 1,5 years respectively. So there is hope.

[Norseman79]

I am still hoping to see a lineup of Edwards, Beasley, Mcdaniels, Vanderbilt and KAT. Between Beas and Edwards they have been handling the ball some anyway, and the offense we are kind of running doesn't seem point guard dependent. McDaniels and Vanderbilt add a bunch of hustle, defense, and some rebounding. Mcdaniels 3pt shot is a thing of beauty, and honestly Vanderbilt made some beautiful passes and plays with Kat. I also think a second line of Rubio/JMac, Nowell, Culver/Layman, Juancho, and Naz could be nice. Nowell, Juancho, and Naz add shooting as COULD Culver/Layman.

This opens up a trade for Okoge, Russell, and potentially a few others. We still need things, but why not see what clicks. And to be honest, we do need to see DLo play with Kat...(as much as I dislike DLo).

Hoping Culver gets some good bench run at the 2/3 to accurately assess where he is and if he is actually improving. Because he was doing well until they started doing dumb things like playing him at the four and jerking him around again.

What worked with Culver last year was someone feeding him as a cutter. So he and Layman sharing the 3 duties as you show seems fine.

As for the starters if everyone is healthy, who really knows. Does Edwards have the awareness for roaming and cutting? If he could that would be one way to make it work. But I'm not sure anyone can keep his hands off the damn ball so...he's likely going to act like a point hogging control of it unless Dlo puts his foot down. Should be interesting.

As for your need to keep telling us you dislike Dlo, well, now I dislike you. I felt the need to tell you.

Ohhhhh no...how will I make it through

[Jedzz]

I am still hoping to see a lineup of Edwards, Beasley, Mcdaniels, Vanderbilt and KAT. Between Beas and Edwards they have been handling the ball some anyway, and the offense we are kind of running doesn't seem point guard dependent. McDaniels and Vanderbilt add a bunch of hustle, defense, and some rebounding. Mcdaniels 3pt shot is a thing of beauty, and honestly Vanderbilt made some beautiful passes and plays with Kat. I also think a second line of Rubio/JMac, Nowell, Culver/Layman, Juancho, and Naz could be nice. Nowell, Juancho, and Naz add shooting as COULD Culver/Layman.

This opens up a trade for Okoge, Russell, and potentially a few others. We still need things, but why not see what clicks. And to be honest, we do need to see DLo play with Kat...(as much as I dislike DLo).

Hoping Culver gets some good bench run at the 2/3 to accurately assess where he is and if he is actually improving. Because he was doing well until they started doing dumb things like playing him at the four and jerking him around again.

What worked with Culver last year was someone feeding him as a cutter. So he and Layman sharing the 3 duties as you show seems fine.

As for the starters if everyone is healthy, who really knows. Does Edwards have the awareness for roaming and cutting? If he could that would be one way to make it work. But I'm not sure anyone can keep his hands off the damn ball so...he's likely going to act like a point hogging control of it unless Dlo puts his foot down. Should be interesting.

As for your need to keep telling us you dislike Dlo, well, now I dislike you. I felt the need to tell you.

Ohhhhh no...how will I make it through

By watching some Dloading highlights of course. Penance!

Watch on YouTube

[Norseman79]

What worked with Culver last year was someone feeding him as a cutter. So he and Layman sharing the 3 duties as you show seems fine.

As for the starters if everyone is healthy, who really knows. Does Edwards have the awareness for roaming and cutting? If he could that would be one way to make it work. But I'm not sure anyone can keep his hands off the damn ball so...he's likely going to act like a point hogging control of it unless Dlo puts his foot down. Should be interesting.

As for your need to keep telling us you dislike Dlo, well, now I dislike you. I felt the need to tell you.

Ohhhhh no...how will I make it through

By watching some Dloading highlights of course. Penance!

Watch on YouTube

I didn't see any defensive ones, or ones where he leads a team...just a bunch of dribbling and shooting...and if he was getting paid what Beasley is I would be happy with it.

[Jedzz]

Ohhhhh no...how will I make it through

By watching some Dloading highlights of course. Penance!

Watch on YouTube

I didn't see any defensive ones, or ones where he leads a team...just a bunch of dribbling and shooting...and if he was getting paid what Beasley is I would be happy with it.

Oh I see, this is where Dlo is stealing your money again. We've heard others with this gripe.


YOU CAN BLAME THE TEAM, COACHES and ROSAS. They are the ones developing rookies and second year guys to the point DLO isn't putting up your fairytale required level of points, assists, rebounds. He has done it, can do it again. Put it all back into his hands and tell all the little new stains to fall in line already.

Some of you are so freaking shallow and come lately. So many will faint at the sight of a rookie this season getting a triple double (LaMello), or a player hogging nearly 48 possessions to bravenly shoot 31 times for 42 pts as a rookie (Edwards). Yet, at the same time, they want to piss on the memory of another similar player who has done all those same things as a young player not many years ago, yet on better efficiency even back then...he's still young now. But...he's not the shiny new chrome draft pick that everyone worked themselves up about recently is he.