Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

KING_NATE76 · Post #381 » by **KING_NATE76** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:50 am

Lakers trade:

PG: D. Schroder

Magic trade:

PF: J. Isaac
C; M. Bamba

Lakers get the help at center with a young strong guy that is 7' tall with a 7'10" wingspan
plus a very good PF in J Isaac. They are both very young and could develop into really good rotation players.
I have high hopes for Bamba with his size and strength to develop into a lesser version of Embied, and Isaac could turn out to be the next Siakem.

Orlando is loaded at the center position and at the PF positions, but what they really need is a true ball handling PG. And Schroder could fit their needs. A line-up of Schroder/Fournier/Ross/Gordon/Vucevic would be potent in the east.

Overall this could be a win win for both teams.

Lakers don't really need a true PG since Lebron handles the ball 90% of the time anyway, and they always have Caruso and Cook to step into that Pg roll. Also, with this trade we would relegate Gasol to 10-15 min/game, which at this point would be perfect for him....We could then use the remaining time and split it between Harrell and Bamba. With this trade and if we pick up Ariza if he gets bought out, it should be a smoother road to our back to back championships.

New Laker's Lineup after trade
PG: KCP/Caruso/Cook
SG: Matthews/THT
SF: Lebron/kuzma/Ariza
PF: AD/Isaac/Morris
C: Gasol/Harrell/Bamba

Your thoughts?

mcscotty · Post #382 » by **mcscotty** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:03 am

I'd rather focus on experienced guys like Nerlens or RoLo. Hopefully get lucky in the buyout market.

Post #383 » by **Slava** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:08 am

Issac is out for the season and no one knows if Bamba is even half good as he barely gets much playing time. Neither of them helps the Lakers this season.

ROballer · Post #384 » by **ROballer** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:15 am

Isaac is a franchise type player, he is a top 3 defender in the league with an ever improving offense.

Even with the torn ACL and not playing this season, and further injury risks down the line, the Magic laugh you out of the building if you offer them Schroder for him.

Freighttrain · Post #385 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:13 pm

Any chance we get into the Drummond sweepstakes?

ROballer · Post #386 » by **ROballer** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:51 pm

Only if he's bought out.

reamily · Post #387 » by **reamily** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:52 pm

Just recruit "veterans" thru a buyout..

Post #388 » by **Kilroy** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:38 pm

Since AD has an issue with his achilles, and we don't want to f with that, maybe sit him, and go all-in for Drummond... Trez, Mathews, KCP gets it done financially... Has he fallen out of favor enough for that to get it done, or are they going to want like THT too, or Schroder instead of KCP...

Drummond and AD are the same age and this keeps him from playing C, and solves our interior D problem...

LAKESHOW · Post #389 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:59 pm

Blake griffins name has suddenly come available. Dunno, but intriguing

ROballer · Post #390 » by **ROballer** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:13 pm

He has a 39 mil player option for next year and is beyond done for two years now. Are you kidding me?

You guys are bitching Gasol is done, have you seen Griffin lately?

LAKESHOW · Post #391 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:46 pm

Yeah, clearly Pelinka F'd up here

Post #392 » by **Kilroy** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:56 am

zuju wrote:When may the Lakers talk with Schroder about his extension?

What if Schroder mark a hefty price tag say 23-28M, will you want to extend him or will you prefer trading him?

If you prefer the later, who do you want?

They already talked to him according to reports, but they couldn't agree on a price... He said he wants a 'significant' raise and a guaranteed starting spot.

At this point, I'm not on board for either. He's not a great fit.

mcscotty · Post #393 » by **mcscotty** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:31 am

Kilroy wrote:Since AD has an issue with his achilles, and we don't want to f with that, maybe sit him, and go all-in for Drummond... Trez, Mathews, KCP gets it done financially... Has he fallen out of favor enough for that to get it done, or are they going to want like THT too, or Schroder instead of KCP...

Drummond and AD are the same age and this keeps him from playing C, and solves our interior D problem...

I'm of the opinion that the 5 spot is an afterthought in today's game. Especially with the way our roster is currently constructed. Really wouldn't want to tie up $27 million at that position. We can fill the role adequately for much less than that. Wouldn't be willing to sacrifice the depth. Don't want to start looking like the Nets.

Post #394 » by **Kilroy** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:57 am

mcscotty wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Since AD has an issue with his achilles, and we don't want to f with that, maybe sit him, and go all-in for Drummond... Trez, Mathews, KCP gets it done financially... Has he fallen out of favor enough for that to get it done, or are they going to want like THT too, or Schroder instead of KCP...

Drummond and AD are the same age and this keeps him from playing C, and solves our interior D problem...

I'm of the opinion that the 5 spot is an afterthought in today's game. Really wouldn't want to tie up $27 million at that position. We can fill the role adequately for much less than that. Wouldn't be willing to sacrifice the depth. Don't want to start looking like the Nets.

It's 28.8M but it's an expiring... So we can try him out this season while AD's down and see if they gel... If they don't we can trade him or let him walk...

Also as far as keeping him, with AD healthy, we have a guy who can play basically 2-4... Which eliminates the need for a scoring wing to a certain extent... Especially with Lebron there too... So you have some choices but with AD and LeBron, you need at least one other dynamic scorer, you need a floor general for when LeBron is focused on scoring, you need a jump shooter and you need defense... In particular, you need a rim running/protecting C that can take the weight for AD in the paint... You have to invest '3rd star money' at one of those positions, but you can be flexible based on the talent available... Right now, the top talent available are guys like Drummond or Beal or maybe lowry or Barnes... The only one we might have the assets to get is Drummond... And that's fine, because he's the right age to partner with AD and he keeps him out of the paint on D where he doesn't want to be anyway... And he can be a rental if we don't want him.... And it seems clear that Trez isn't the complete answer for us... he's much worse Defensively that we realized.

Post #395 » by **Danny Darko** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:46 am

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ROballer · Post #396 » by **ROballer** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:47 am

I don't see the FO willing to let go of their KCP man crush so it's a moot point trying to spin our heads around a Drummond deal.
We don't have the salaries to match without KCP included.

A buyout is the only other possibility, let's see if the Cavs are getting something worthwhile in return for him. They'll clearly buy him out if not.

mcscotty · Post #397 » by **mcscotty** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:02 am

Kilroy wrote:
mcscotty wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Since AD has an issue with his achilles, and we don't want to f with that, maybe sit him, and go all-in for Drummond... Trez, Mathews, KCP gets it done financially... Has he fallen out of favor enough for that to get it done, or are they going to want like THT too, or Schroder instead of KCP...

Drummond and AD are the same age and this keeps him from playing C, and solves our interior D problem...

I'm of the opinion that the 5 spot is an afterthought in today's game. Really wouldn't want to tie up $27 million at that position. We can fill the role adequately for much less than that. Wouldn't be willing to sacrifice the depth. Don't want to start looking like the Nets.

It's 28.8M but it's an expiring... So we can try him out this season while AD's down and see if they gel... If they don't we can trade him or let him walk...

Also as far as keeping him, with AD healthy, we have a guy who can play basically 2-4... Which eliminates the need for a scoring wing to a certain extent... Especially with Lebron there too... So you have some choices but with AD and LeBron, you need at least one other dynamic scorer, you need a floor general for when LeBron is focused on scoring, you need a jump shooter and you need defense... In particular, you need a rim running/protecting C that can take the weight for AD in the paint... You have to invest '3rd star money' at one of those positions, but you can be flexible based on the talent available... Right now, the top talent available are guys like Drummond or Beal or maybe lowry or Barnes... The only one we might have the assets to get is Drummond... And that's fine, because he's the right age to partner with AD and he keeps him out of the paint on D where he doesn't want to be anyway... And he can be a rental if we don't want him.... And it seems clear that Trez isn't the complete answer for us... he's much worse Defensively that we realized.

I see your point, but it would be a lot to give up. The Cavs acquired him with 2 years remaining on his contract for John Henson, Brandon Knight, and a 2nd. Realistically, I don't see him getting a lot of playing time in the playoffs. There just aren't a lot of big banging 5's in the league nowadays that AD can't match up with. I really hope Kuz and Caruso/Wes start while AD is out and we can see what Trez and Schroder can do off the bench. I'm really not up for a big shakeup at this point. We've got a solid team and I think tweaks are better than an overhaul.

Post #398 » by **Slava** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:03 am

Drummond is the worst high usage player you can get, especially for a team that doesn't need one. Trading valuable assets like KCP on team friendly contracts for him would be even worse.

The team is well set up to survive AD's absence with a glut of 4s in Harrell, Morris, Kuz and even LeBron being able to slide in to contribute there. It also means more minutes for Caruso and THT in the wing rotation. I'd wait for a buy out 5 who can take 4-5 fouls in the playoffs as insurance for Marc and roll with that.

Dr Aki · Post #399 » by **Dr Aki** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:32 am

i'd rather just wait for buyout season

just tough it out these next couple of weeks

it's not as if the lakers aren't in second place in the west and earnt the right to simply tank the next few weeks and get healthy

Spanish_Laker · Post #400 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:12 am

We desperately need a big man who can rebound on both ends and protect the paint and Drummond seems like a very good player at that. If we don't make any moves, we are going to lose a lot of games until AD comes back.