Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition?

Pharaoh · Post #121 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:05 am

Wolves need a top 3 pick otherwise the Warriors get it!

Imagine GS getting the #4 pick in the 2021 Draft

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MotownMadness · Post #122 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:08 am

Probably makes them better honestly but I've pretty much accepted they will be a hard one to out tank

DetroitSho · Post #123 » by **DetroitSho** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:10 am

Pharaoh wrote:Wolves need a top 3 pick otherwise the Warriors get it!

Imagine GS getting the #4 pick in the 2021 Draft
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I hope that's what happens.

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ElectricMayhem · Post #124 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:38 am

I think the Pistons end up 3rd or 4th, trailing Minnesota and one or both of Cleveland/Washington at the end of the season.

ComboGuardCity · Post #125 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:25 am

Woah Minny owes the Warriors anything out of the top 3. I don’t think they end of full blown tanking and try and make the playin game.

MotownMadness · Post #126 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:34 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Woah Minny owes the Warriors anything out of the top 3. I don’t think they end of full blown tanking and try and make the playin game.

Yeah that would be a stressful situation as a fan during the draft lottery. Be the worst team in the league and possibly handing one of these top 5 guys to the Warriors.

DBC10 · Post #127 » by **DBC10** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:55 am

It might actually make them better if they lose D'Angelo for a bit. He's been stealth tanking that team for a while

May also unleash Edwards a bit too and they start winning games that they have no business winning. Or it's a moot point and they're already too deflated to overcome the initial 25+ game hurdle. That and KAT is still recovering from COVID somewhat too

edmunder_prc · Post #128 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:02 am

MotownMadness wrote:Probably makes them better honestly but I've pretty much accepted they will be a hard one to out tank

Remember that Hayes upside was a more crafty Russell.

But that was from The Athletic guy who said Hayes was his best guy in the draft (for the future, so maybe in 5 years).

MotownMadness · Post #129 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:07 am

edmunder_prc wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Probably makes them better honestly but I've pretty much accepted they will be a hard one to out tank

Remember that Hayes upside was a more crafty Russell. But that was from The Athletic guy who said Hayes was his best guy in the draft (for the future, so maybe in 5 years).

Quit hating on my guy lol. I wanted Hayes bad but admit I never actually got to sit and watch him play a actual game.

Hes certainly better then what he showed which looked like a deer in headlights. I doubt he got as far as he did playing like we saw in Detroit.

edmunder_prc · Post #130 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:14 am

Maybe he needs a therapist more than anything else. The deer in the headlights is the right metaphor. He looked like he was having a breakdown out there.

That last game where he got injured he was really pissed off and not in the right mindset for an NBA game. I have a theory that injuries are much more likely to happen when people are like that, they end up doing stupid stuff that their body just cant do, then getting hurt.

ducler · Post #131 » by **ducler** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:03 am

DetroitSho wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Wolves need a top 3 pick otherwise the Warriors get it!

Imagine GS getting the #4 pick in the 2021 Draft
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I hope that's what happens.

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If that means we secure a top 3 or even top 1, yes please let it happen!

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buzzkilloton · Post #132 » by **buzzkilloton** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:48 am

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

Pharaoh · Post #133 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:38 am

So your fear of a late Lotto pick is based upon a prediction that may or may not become reality

I find that incredibly interesting

buzzkilloton wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

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Piston Pete · Post #134 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:30 am

Washington won tonight

And Minnesota is going to overtime

The Moose · Post #135 » by **The Moose** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:00 am

I think the biggest competition will be

Cavs
Wolves
Magic
Thunder

DetroitSho · Post #136 » by **DetroitSho** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:17 am

buzzkilloton wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

Lol

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Laimbeer · Post #137 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:27 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

It's pretty clear to me Gores/Weaver have no interest in cashing in on those guys. Maybe Ellington. Just going to see where they take us this season.

MotownMadness · Post #138 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:31 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

It's pretty clear to me Gores/Weaver have no interest in cashing in on those guys. Maybe Ellington. Just going to see where they take us this season.

I kinda felt this way but after seeing Rose dealt and now the whole Griffin thing unfolding it feels like anything could happen.

Or is it more cause these are Weavers guys he just signed?

Laimbeer · Post #139 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:47 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-nba-predictions/

So 538 has a win prediction model for a long time it had us worst record by a whopping 5 games. Well all those wins vs good teams have now changed everything. Its currently projecting us as 5th worst behind Minn/Cle/Wash/OKC.

Sac/Chi/Hou/Orl are behind us I wouldnt be surprised if we finish ahead of a few of these teams as well. I think the tank is officially dead. We played to well vs the hard part of the schedule. All those wins where people were like "if were going to win a game I'm glad its vs LA/Bos/whatever good team" add up and now were back into that standard Det draft zone.

I guess the hope would be we ship out Wright, Ellington, and Plumlee soon. If we get rid of two of these guys it would help alot.Who knows though the way this team is playing we might just go for the playin.

It's pretty clear to me Gores/Weaver have no interest in cashing in on those guys. Maybe Ellington. Just going to see where they take us this season.

I kinda felt this way but after seeing Rose dealt and now the whole Griffin thing unfolding it feels like anything could happen.

Or is it more cause these are Weavers guys he just signed?

He can see those guys still being around for a couple of years. Plus it's become apparent Blake and probably Rose were making us worse.

Laimbeer · Post #140 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:52 pm

The Moose wrote:I think the biggest competition will be

Cavs
Wolves
Magic
Thunder

Looks to me like staying in the bottom four isn't much worse than being last.

Worst - 14.0% chance of first pick, 52.1% chance of top four pick
Fourth Worst - 12.5% chance of first pick, 48.0% chance of top four pick