Blake Griffin to sit out - anyone interested?

[zimpy27]

Out of the fact that trading guys for a player that makes $77 million over the next to years and can’t move. I like him, but not at that price. This team needs more than trading for Blake which is making a move just to make a move when you could include those same pieces for someone a hell of a lot better. Trading those guys for him doesn’t do anything for this team.

You wouldn't get someone better unless you add picks and Herro/Nunn/Robinson.
This is about getting a better player than the rabble you give to help you this season, a player that has a huge expiring contract that could be traded in 2021-2022 season and comes off books in 2022 offseason.

Exactly. So why waste time trading for Blake when you can go for your targets with those pieces instead. For a team that’s been killed by COVID and injuries this season, I’d much rather have players that’s pretty reliable to actually play. What ways would this current version of Blake help this team? This isn’t 2018-19 Blake, the dude can barely move. Easy pass as a trade target.

You don't think Blake would pick up production in a new environment that was focussed on winning basketball games vs developing young guys?

I guess you imagine Blake plays the same in Miami where I argue that you are taking a gamble where that's the minimum Blake would give you while the guys you are trading away give less than his minimum anyway but just have value in that they can be let go in this offseason.

[JRoy]

There may be a few teams interested in BG on a minimum contract.

No one wants him on his current contract.

[NBADraft2003]

You wouldn't get someone better unless you add picks and Herro/Nunn/Robinson.
This is about getting a better player than the rabble you give to help you this season, a player that has a huge expiring contract that could be traded in 2021-2022 season and comes off books in 2022 offseason.

Exactly. So why waste time trading for Blake when you can go for your targets with those pieces instead. For a team that’s been killed by COVID and injuries this season, I’d much rather have players that’s pretty reliable to actually play. What ways would this current version of Blake help this team? This isn’t 2018-19 Blake, the dude can barely move. Easy pass as a trade target.

You don't think Blake would pick up production in a new environment that was focussed on winning basketball games vs developing young guys?

I guess you imagine Blake plays the same in Miami where I argue that you are taking a gamble where that's the minimum Blake would give you while the guys you are trading away give less than his minimum anyway but just have value in that they can be let go in this offseason.

His body won’t let him, that’s the issue. He’s not fixing our current issues either, he’s bad on both ends of the floor. There’s a reason he’s attempting so many threes, he can’t get to the rim like he used to. I’d much rather keep the guys than trade for a broken Blake, those guys provide more than what Blake does consistently.

[DoItALL9]

I understand the logic, but I'm not willing to definitely make our team worse on the hopes that we can find some deal later on that will make us better.

I'm becoming more and more of a polar GM than ever these days. After seeing some of the ideas the 'wait n see' people are putting out there (one idea was for Aaron Gordon, to play him at the 3) I'm entirely over it.. we need to do right by our stars who never demanded a trade, never caused a fuss, and didnt hold the team hostage if we didnt do it THEIR way

So pretty much everything we do should be with one eye towards how we get them into title contention again. I dont think it matters because I doubt Detroit would even be interested, because we've all seen what Wiggins can do as the #1 scoring option on a team, and it aint good. But if the option were out there - Wiggins for Griffin straight up - I'd give it thought. It takes a very specific set of conditions to make me OK with it, but I think we're adjacent to that set

Can you explain what would be the goal after bringing in Blake Griffin?

This summer (or next season) look to trade him as an expiring for another star?

In the meantime start him alongside Draymond as the 4 & 5?
Bring him off the bench?



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[DoItALL9]

I understand the logic, but I'm not willing to definitely make our team worse on the hopes that we can find some deal later on that will make us better.

I'm becoming more and more of a polar GM than ever these days. After seeing some of the ideas the 'wait n see' people are putting out there (one idea was for Aaron Gordon, to play him at the 3) I'm entirely over it.. we need to do right by our stars who never demanded a trade, never caused a fuss, and didnt hold the team hostage if we didnt do it THEIR way

So pretty much everything we do should be with one eye towards how we get them into title contention again. I dont think it matters because I doubt Detroit would even be interested, because we've all seen what Wiggins can do as the #1 scoring option on a team, and it aint good. But if the option were out there - Wiggins for Griffin straight up - I'd give it thought. It takes a very specific set of conditions to make me OK with it, but I think we're adjacent to that set

Agreed

And Griffin has transformed his game in recent years, I see him as a good fit on the Warriors

If Pistons are receptive towards a Griffin-Wiggins swap, and I don't think they are, Warriors should definitely take the deal

I would even say do it even if Warriors has to attach some small incentive like some 2RPs to get the deal done

What do you think would be the next move for GSW if Blake Griffin is a horrible fit?

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[Topofthekey]

I'm becoming more and more of a polar GM than ever these days. After seeing some of the ideas the 'wait n see' people are putting out there (one idea was for Aaron Gordon, to play him at the 3) I'm entirely over it.. we need to do right by our stars who never demanded a trade, never caused a fuss, and didnt hold the team hostage if we didnt do it THEIR way

So pretty much everything we do should be with one eye towards how we get them into title contention again. I dont think it matters because I doubt Detroit would even be interested, because we've all seen what Wiggins can do as the #1 scoring option on a team, and it aint good. But if the option were out there - Wiggins for Griffin straight up - I'd give it thought. It takes a very specific set of conditions to make me OK with it, but I think we're adjacent to that set

Agreed

And Griffin has transformed his game in recent years, I see him as a good fit on the Warriors

If Pistons are receptive towards a Griffin-Wiggins swap, and I don't think they are, Warriors should definitely take the deal

I would even say do it even if Warriors has to attach some small incentive like some 2RPs to get the deal done

What do you think would be the next move for GSW if Blake Griffin is a horrible fit?

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In general, I've been a proponent of trading Wiseman and the Wolves pick to get Steph Curry the help to win

But if the team prefers to hang on to Wiseman and the pick, then the plan is to make smaller trades, like trading Wiggins for Blake Griffin here

If it turns out that Griffin sucked, it's not going to change things too much - we're basically back at the situation previously, where I am inclined to trade Wiseman and the pick for help, or pursue some smaller trades if the team prefers to keep them

Except Griffin now also becomes another trading chip, as an expiring contract next season

[FNQ]

I'm becoming more and more of a polar GM than ever these days. After seeing some of the ideas the 'wait n see' people are putting out there (one idea was for Aaron Gordon, to play him at the 3) I'm entirely over it.. we need to do right by our stars who never demanded a trade, never caused a fuss, and didnt hold the team hostage if we didnt do it THEIR way

So pretty much everything we do should be with one eye towards how we get them into title contention again. I dont think it matters because I doubt Detroit would even be interested, because we've all seen what Wiggins can do as the #1 scoring option on a team, and it aint good. But if the option were out there - Wiggins for Griffin straight up - I'd give it thought. It takes a very specific set of conditions to make me OK with it, but I think we're adjacent to that set

Agreed

And Griffin has transformed his game in recent years, I see him as a good fit on the Warriors

If Pistons are receptive towards a Griffin-Wiggins swap, and I don't think they are, Warriors should definitely take the deal

I would even say do it even if Warriors has to attach some small incentive like some 2RPs to get the deal done

What do you think would be the next move for GSW if Blake Griffin is a horrible fit?

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Let's make no mistake about it - he's a horrible fit now. You aren't trading for him to be a player, you're trading for him to be a super large expiring in the offseason to pair with either Wiseman, the MIN 1st, the GS 1st, or some combo of the 3, as the basis for landing a star to play next to Curry/Klay/Dray

[gom]

I'm a Miami fan who doesn't even want Blake Griffin on a minimum contract. Also, our game sports announcer, Eric Reid, spent half the game criticizing him every time he got the ball. I felt bad for Griffin, before I remembered he was being paid about $500,000 to stand around and shoot 3s for 20 minutes.

[Wolveswin]

Warriors:
Wiseman + Oubre + Paschall + Picks
FOR
Towns + Pistons Small Filler + Wolves Small Filler

Pistons:
Griffin + Stewart + Small Filler
FOR
Russell + Oubre + Paschall

Wolves:
Towns + Russell + Small Filler
FOR
Wiseman
Stewart
Griffin
2021 Wolves 1st (returned)
2021 Warriors 1st (21-30 protected)
2022&23 Warriors 1st Swap
2026 Warriors 1st (unprotected)

[FNQ]

I'm becoming more and more of a polar GM than ever these days. After seeing some of the ideas the 'wait n see' people are putting out there (one idea was for Aaron Gordon, to play him at the 3) I'm entirely over it.. we need to do right by our stars who never demanded a trade, never caused a fuss, and didnt hold the team hostage if we didnt do it THEIR way

So pretty much everything we do should be with one eye towards how we get them into title contention again. I dont think it matters because I doubt Detroit would even be interested, because we've all seen what Wiggins can do as the #1 scoring option on a team, and it aint good. But if the option were out there - Wiggins for Griffin straight up - I'd give it thought. It takes a very specific set of conditions to make me OK with it, but I think we're adjacent to that set

Agreed

And Griffin has transformed his game in recent years, I see him as a good fit on the Warriors

If Pistons are receptive towards a Griffin-Wiggins swap, and I don't think they are, Warriors should definitely take the deal

I would even say do it even if Warriors has to attach some small incentive like some 2RPs to get the deal done

When I think about a Wiggins/Blake swap, I am starting to be ok with it. Wiggins is a year younger than Grant and provides some scoring on the wing. It is a big whole for the Pistons. At this point, I say yes to move on from Blake. I don’t see a buyout as realistic so I’m open to trade ideas as a Pistons fan at this point.

I'm gonna put this on the board so if I get annihilated for it, we'll need to talk

[the_process]

CHI gets Harris and Poirier
DET gets Green, Scott, Porter, and two 2nds TBD
PHI gets Markkanen, Griffin, Bey, and Wright

[DetroitDon15]

CHI gets Harris and Poirier
DET gets Green, Scott, Porter, and two 2nds TBD
PHI gets Markkanen, Griffin, Bey, and Wright

Detroit isn’t moving Bey. Simple no.

[DetroitDon15]

Agreed

And Griffin has transformed his game in recent years, I see him as a good fit on the Warriors

If Pistons are receptive towards a Griffin-Wiggins swap, and I don't think they are, Warriors should definitely take the deal

I would even say do it even if Warriors has to attach some small incentive like some 2RPs to get the deal done

When I think about a Wiggins/Blake swap, I am starting to be ok with it. Wiggins is a year younger than Grant and provides some scoring on the wing. It is a big whole for the Pistons. At this point, I say yes to move on from Blake. I don’t see a buyout as realistic so I’m open to trade ideas as a Pistons fan at this point.

I'm gonna put this on the board so if I get annihilated for it, we'll need to talk

Glad to see someone is supportive. I’m just ready to move on from Blake. Anything to avoid cutting Blake at this point without attaching assets.

[the_process]

When I think about a Wiggins/Blake swap, I am starting to be ok with it. Wiggins is a year younger than Grant and provides some scoring on the wing. It is a big whole for the Pistons. At this point, I say yes to move on from Blake. I don’t see a buyout as realistic so I’m open to trade ideas as a Pistons fan at this point.

I'm gonna put this on the board so if I get annihilated for it, we'll need to talk

Glad to see someone is supportive. I’m just ready to move on from Blake. Anything to avoid cutting Blake at this point without attaching assets.

Moving Blake without attaching anything would be impossible.

[NYG]

Blake Griffin, Wayne Ellington, 2021 Boston Celtics Second Round Draft Pick and 2022 Boston Celtics Second Round Draft Pick to Houston

Dante Exum and Eric Gordon to Detroit

P.J. Tucker to Boston

[DetroitDon15]

I'm gonna put this on the board so if I get annihilated for it, we'll need to talk

Glad to see someone is supportive. I’m just ready to move on from Blake. Anything to avoid cutting Blake at this point without attaching assets.

Moving Blake without attaching anything would be impossible.

Than he will stay in Detroit.

[NYG]

Glad to see someone is supportive. I’m just ready to move on from Blake. Anything to avoid cutting Blake at this point without attaching assets.

Moving Blake without attaching anything would be impossible.

Than he will stay in Detroit.

What's the word in Detroit? Is buying him out on the table?

[the_process]

Glad to see someone is supportive. I’m just ready to move on from Blake. Anything to avoid cutting Blake at this point without attaching assets.

Moving Blake without attaching anything would be impossible.

Than he will stay in Detroit.

Maybe. Time will tell.

[vege]

Moving Blake without attaching anything would be impossible.

Than he will stay in Detroit.

What's the word in Detroit? Is buying him out on the table?

He will probably be bought out, yes.

[queridiculo]

I don't see it. Blake has virtually no on-court value at this point, and the Pistons shouldn't take on more money or give up assets to move him.

Buyout is much more likely.

I am sorry, what on earth makes anybody think that Griffin is going to walk away from $60 million dollars?