Welcome to Boston, Aaron Nesmith!

[djFan71]

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Love the hustle and shooting obvy but my favorite part... having a guy who fights over screens! Has Smart taken him under his wing??

Loved that too. Dude wants to get on the floor! He'll do whatever he has to, which is great. If I didn't know better, I might think Brad isn't insane for making a rookie learn how to play the right way before unleashing him.

[celticfan42487]

Not sure I disliked seeing it but flailing around and getting calls for rebounds isn't something easily reproducible.

But if he can find the heart in him to play that hard every game we certainly have 0 competition for minutes for him so Brad will favor getting him minutes in that scenario.

Hopefully the fight earns him minutes to start showing something consistent on the court that will help him stay there. Sometimes the game moves too fast for rookies and he's playing without an off season... hopefully it's just that mental part and not the pure bust that he's looked like so far. Which since he's looked like a poor man's version of IT back in the day on defense before last night is a real concern.

[BillessuR6]

Nesmith has been fine on defense from the start...sure he makes a couple of really bad decisions in every game but overall he is already a pretty good defender... he certainly isn`t behind some of the other guys that were in rotation ahead of him...

If people would closely watch him (and not just where the ball is) they would notice he has good instincts, good length, quickness along with a good motor...he is farther away on defense than on offense...

Just give him some more time and he will be a really good player...

[playa-hater]

Nesmith has been fine on defense from the start...sure he makes a couple of really bad decisions in every game but overall he is already a pretty good defender... he certainly isn`t behind some of the other guys that were in rotation ahead of him...

If people would closely watch him (and not just where the ball is) they would notice he has good instincts, good length, quickness along with a good motor...he is farther away on defense than on offense...

Just give him some more time and he will be a really good player...

so true. His abilities were never bad, just his experience level and/or reps

[zoyathedestroya]

Already 21, I didn't realize he's the youngest player on the roster. I miss the team having a 19-yo.

[JHTruth]

Last night is the first time he's actually looked like an NBA player IMHO. His main problem is shooting is all he really brings to the table at this point so when he's not dropping bombs there's no reason for him to be out there. Romeo, while often brutal offensively wound up being a pretty tough defender as a rook. He's going to need to hustle his rear off to get mins right now because until he can hit shots consistently.

[BK_2020]

He's taken 37 threes in the NBA. There's not been a body of work to establish consistency, it's premature to say the least to pass judgment on his shooting. If you flip two misses to makes, his 3pt % goes up to .378 from .324. If you flip three, it's over 40%.

[playa-hater]

Last night is the first time he's actually looked like an NBA player IMHO. His main problem is shooting is all he really brings to the table at this point so when he's not dropping bombs there's no reason for him to be out there. Romeo, while often brutal offensively wound up being a pretty tough defender as a rook. He's going to need to hustle his rear off to get mins right now because until he can hit shots consistently.

I strongly disagree with this. For starters, he has very good size and length in what I consider the all important swicth-ability factor. Secondly his threat to knockdown shots alone will help keep the flor spaced. 3rd, in a vert small sample size, he has shown pretty good ability at putting the all on the floor and create/make a pass to a teammate.

Duncan Robinson can't do anything but shoot. But that threat needs to e respected.

PS, I think Romeo's and Nesmith's skills compliment each other well. That and they are both switchable

[djFan71]

Nesmith has been fine on defense from the start...sure he makes a couple of really bad decisions in every game but overall he is already a pretty good defender... he certainly isn`t behind some of the other guys that were in rotation ahead of him...

If people would closely watch him (and not just where the ball is) they would notice he has good instincts, good length, quickness along with a good motor...he is farther away on defense than on offense...

Just give him some more time and he will be a really good player...

so true. His abilities were never bad, just his experience level and/or reps

I agree, but I'm also fine with the coach not playing a rookie from day 1 who hadn't played since like Feb and had no summer league or training camp. He's basically had that now via practice time and is starting to get PT.

It can hurt your development being thrown in too early just as much as too late. He's missed all of 15 games. If Brad keeps him in the rotation going forward, it's a tiny blip on a long career.

[playa-hater]

Nesmith has been fine on defense from the start...sure he makes a couple of really bad decisions in every game but overall he is already a pretty good defender... he certainly isn`t behind some of the other guys that were in rotation ahead of him...

If people would closely watch him (and not just where the ball is) they would notice he has good instincts, good length, quickness along with a good motor...he is farther away on defense than on offense...

Just give him some more time and he will be a really good player...

so true. His abilities were never bad, just his experience level and/or reps

I agree, but I'm also fine with the coach not playing a rookie from day 1 who hadn't played since like Feb and had no summer league or training camp. He's basically had that now via practice time and is starting to get PT.

It can hurt your development being thrown in too early just as much as too late. He's missed all of 15 games. If Brad keeps him in the rotation going forward, it's a tiny blip on a long career.

I don't think playing 6 minutes a game early on Maybe in the 2nd quarter would have really stunted his growth but more importantly it could have potentially Increased his development rate. At any rate he should have been playing much more much more often during the last month or so.

[Bleeding Green]

How can you think you have the knowledge to want to micromanage the team's minute distribution to that degree? I wish I had that amount of confidence. Dunning-Kruger vibes for sure. Literally complaining about like 80 minutes of the career of a basketball player when there are so many other factors beyond 'is Aaron Nesmith good at NBA basketball right now'

[djFan71]

so true. His abilities were never bad, just his experience level and/or reps

I agree, but I'm also fine with the coach not playing a rookie from day 1 who hadn't played since like Feb and had no summer league or training camp. He's basically had that now via practice time and is starting to get PT.

It can hurt your development being thrown in too early just as much as too late. He's missed all of 15 games. If Brad keeps him in the rotation going forward, it's a tiny blip on a long career.

I don't think playing 6 minutes a game early on Maybe in the 2nd quarter would have really stunted his growth but more importantly it could have potentially Increased his development rate. At any rate he should have been playing much more much more often during the last month or so.

You can lose confidence in things other than shooting. If you're constantly missing rotations and in the wrong spots on both ends and you lose your teammates trust, that's detrimental to your growth.

[24istheLAW]

Can we drop this absurd premise that Nesmith is getting frozen out of the team?

The Celtics are 5th in the East. The top 5 teams in the West are Utah, Lakers, Clippers, Blazers, and the Suns. The teams ahead of Boston are 76ers, Nets, Bucks, and the Pacers. Those teams plus Boston have combined to play six 1st round rookies so far:

Jalen Smith (1st rd, 10th pick): 50 mins
Aaron Nesmith (1st rd, 14th pick): 191 mins
Tyrese Maxey (1st rd, 21st pick): 472 mins
RJ Hampton (1st rd, 24th pick): 180 mins
Payton Pritchard (1st rd, 26th pick): 472 mins
Udoka Azubuike (st rd1, 27th pick): 49 mins

Pritchard and Maxey are T-1st. Nesmith is next.

Now, it shouldn't surprise you that the Boston rookies are playing a lot. Of the of the 10 teams in this group, Boston is the worst one at 14-14. Having rookies getting minutes is a symptom of a bad basketball team. The teams above Boston in that group of 10 traded their 1st rd picks and have vet ring chasers in those roster spots, or have their developmental players in a developmental role.

[playa-hater]

Can we drop this absurd premise that Nesmith is getting frozen out of the team?

The Celtics are 5th in the East. The top 5 teams in the West are Utah, Lakers, Clippers, Blazers, and the Suns. The teams ahead of Boston are 76ers, Nets, Bucks, and the Pacers. Those teams plus Boston have combined to play six 1st round rookies so far:

Jalen Smith (1st rd, 10th pick): 50 mins
Aaron Nesmith (1st rd, 14th pick): 191 mins
Tyrese Maxey (1st rd, 21st pick): 472 mins
RJ Hampton (1st rd, 24th pick): 180 mins
Payton Pritchard (1st rd, 26th pick): 472 mins
Udoka Azubuike (st rd1, 27th pick): 49 mins

Pritchard and Maxey are T-1st. Nesmith is next.

Now, it shouldn't surprise you that the Boston rookies are playing a lot. Of the of the 10 teams in this group, Boston is the worst one at 14-14. Having rookies getting minutes is a symptom of a bad basketball team. The teams above Boston in that group of 10 traded their 1st rd picks and have vet ring chasers in those roster spots, or have their developmental players in a developmental role.

Really?? do those teams have players as bad as Boston's Waters/Teague/Edwards/Green?? and even if they did (they don't) those other teams are NOT playing their bad players as much. Some of those teams you mentioned like LAL, Nets, Indiana don't have a rookie first RD picks as well. Boston has the least depth of any of them, more so, when you factor in injuries to us.

this is total spin control at best.

I will say it again. There isn't a single reason to play a Teague/Edwards/Waters/Green over Nesmith. NONE!

[Bleeding Green]

Yes, those teams all have players as bad (or worse) as the players you list. How can you have so little understanding of the league as a whole? Very impressive. The Nets literally are signing bums off the street who haven't played in the NBA in years. How can one person be so wrong so often with such confidence? Go watch Reggie Perry, Noah Vonleh, Chris Chiozza when you get a chance. And when Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert make the court, watch them. THEY SUCK SO BAD THEY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR YEARS.

[zoyathedestroya]

In the last 5 games, Nesmith has now played more than Teague, Waters, Edwards, and Green. Hope fans are happy. I doubt it since unless the org/team/rotation/timeouts are executed/used exactly the way they want it AND the team wins, they won't be.

[cl2117]

Yes, those teams all have players as bad (or worse) as the players you list. How can you have so little understanding of the league as a whole? Very impressive. The Nets literally are signing bums off the street who haven't played in the NBA in years. How can one person be so wrong so often with such confidence? Go watch Reggie Perry, Noah Vonleh, Chris Chiozza when you get a chance. And when Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert make the court, watch them. THEY SUCK SO BAD THEY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR YEARS.

How can you accuse someone of being so wrong without backing it up?

Nets have no rookies bud. They're not the example.

Jalen Smith, the only guy picked ahead of Nesmith, is stuck behind Crowder/Dario Saric/Frank the Tank all of whom are actually playing pretty good on a team that's 17-10. Oh and the Suns have sent Jalen to the G-League so he can get minutes.

RJ Hampton is behind Jamal Murray/ Monte Morris and Facundo. Still same number of minutes as Nesmith.

Udoka Azubuike is behind Gobert/Favors.

Care to take another stab at it?

[Bleeding Green]

Yes, those teams all have players as bad (or worse) as the players you list. How can you have so little understanding of the league as a whole? Very impressive. The Nets literally are signing bums off the street who haven't played in the NBA in years. How can one person be so wrong so often with such confidence? Go watch Reggie Perry, Noah Vonleh, Chris Chiozza when you get a chance. And when Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert make the court, watch them. THEY SUCK SO BAD THEY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR YEARS.

How can you accuse someone of being so wrong without backing it up?

Nets have no rookies bud. They're not the example.

Jalen Smith, the only guy picked ahead of Nesmith, is stuck behind Crowder/Dario Saric/Frank the Tank all of whom are actually playing pretty good on a team that's 17-10. Oh and the Suns have sent Jalen to the G-League so he can get minutes.

RJ Hampton is behind Jamal Murray/ Monte Morris and Facundo. Still same number of minutes as Nesmith.

Udoka Azubuike is behind Gobert/Favors.

Care to take another stab at it?

The Nets have a whole host of trash at the back end of their roster. What do you mean? I just listed them all. Reggie Perry is a rookie. I was replying to playa-hater anyway. He says teams don't have bad players like the Celtics and he's just wrong. Like so obviously wrong. Every team has 4-5 trash players on its roster. Lakers, Nets, Sixers, even Jazz. Name a team, it has 4 terrible players on it.

Take a stab at what?

[cl2117]

Yes, those teams all have players as bad (or worse) as the players you list. How can you have so little understanding of the league as a whole? Very impressive. The Nets literally are signing bums off the street who haven't played in the NBA in years. How can one person be so wrong so often with such confidence? Go watch Reggie Perry, Noah Vonleh, Chris Chiozza when you get a chance. And when Andre Roberson and Iman Shumpert make the court, watch them. THEY SUCK SO BAD THEY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR YEARS.

How can you accuse someone of being so wrong without backing it up?

Nets have no rookies bud. They're not the example.

Jalen Smith, the only guy picked ahead of Nesmith, is stuck behind Crowder/Dario Saric/Frank the Tank all of whom are actually playing pretty good on a team that's 17-10. Oh and the Suns have sent Jalen to the G-League so he can get minutes.

RJ Hampton is behind Jamal Murray/ Monte Morris and Facundo. Still same number of minutes as Nesmith.

Udoka Azubuike is behind Gobert/Favors.

Care to take another stab at it?

The Nets have a whole host of trash at the back end of their roster. What do you mean? I just listed them all. Reggie Perry is a rookie.

What rookie should they play over them?

The whole point was that teams aren't playing trash guys like Teague INSTEAD of their rookies. Nets don't even have any to play over them and if they did, they'd probably be out there.

You're way off base.

Edit: Reggie Perry is the 57th pick. Don't pretend it's the same as a lotto pick.

[Bleeding Green]

Who cares about rookies this much, they usually suck. Nesmith sucks, why should he play that much? Teague is basically out of the rotation at this point and Nesmith plays minutes lately anyway. if your team plays rookies a lot, your team probably sucks.

I don't even care about this argument anyway, and wasn't responding to you initially, it's like complaining about a couple weeks of minutes of some rookie in a season that is not at all normal. Who even cares? There are dozens of reason NEsmith does and doesn't receive minutes and many of them have little to do with him as a basketball player. If Nesmith looked like Pritchard day one, sure, there is an argument that he should obviously play more, but he looked terrible in limited action early on and had like one nice g ame against the Nuggets, who were missing half their roster. And now he's playing 20+ minutes a game and looks ok I guess. Nothing special, certainly not playing like he is obviously better than Javonte Green at least.

I was talking about playa-haters comment that other teams don't have players as bad as the Celtics.