Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[Stadium5]

I am increasingly worried Brad is the problem, not Ainge. Danny is far from infallible, but the talent level on this team is far above their record. Lots of hoops left this year though and Stevens has earned some rope to be patient. My worry with Brad is he gets the most out of under talented try-hards, but both his system and his style don't translate as well in getting the best out of teams looking to get over the edge.

This team has probably outgrown Brad, but if we had a real championship roster it wouldn't matter. In the NBA, the best players/rosters usually win. Plenty of average coaches have succeeded just by having superior built rosters.

Someone else in this thread nailed it, Ainge's repetitive infatuation with going after the 5'11'' guards and 6'7'' bigmen kills us. I an't figure out if it's because he was a small player or what but it needs to stop if we're going to compete for real

[BostonCouchGM]

I am increasingly worried Brad is the problem, not Ainge. Danny is far from infallible, but the talent level on this team is far above their record. Lots of hoops left this year though and Stevens has earned some rope to be patient. My worry with Brad is he gets the most out of under talented try-hards, but both his system and his style don't translate as well in getting the best out of teams looking to get over the edge.

This team has probably outgrown Brad, but if we had a real championship roster it wouldn't matter. In the NBA, the best players/rosters usually win. Plenty of average coaches have succeeded just by having superior built rosters.

Someone else in this thread nailed it, Ainge's repetitive infatuation with going after the 5'11'' guards and 6'7'' bigmen kills us. I an't figure out if it's because he was a small player or what but it needs to stop if we're going to compete for real

I'm convinced Ainge drafts them because he wants to be a contrarian and smartest guy in the room. After all, everyone should covet athletes with great length and size for their position. By drafting undersized guys, if they pan out he can differentiate himself and be seen as a genius who saw something nobody else did. The problem is, when he does this, he's passed on legit different makers and it's come back to haunt us and he's yet to find a single undersized difference maker if we're being honest. Some serviceable guys no doubt, but nobody that is helping to bring a championship to Boston. It's hubris. I know this triggers his apologists but it remains true.

[BK_2020]

When you get to pick 20+ you are not going to have perfect players with good length, clean injury history, great skills and intangibles.
Or it could be that Ainge just likes to draft short players even though good, tall players are available.
Because of hubris, or whatever.

[BigTrade92]

I said during our dismal off-season that if Ainge didn't improve this roster we'd be a #6 seed by the All Star break...

Hmm, well would you look at that....if we lose tonight to Denver, we're officially the #6 seed!


Saddest part is, we're still two and a half weeks away from the ASG. If things don't improve quickly, the pitchforks are gonna be pre-sharpened and ready to go round here.

Tick tock Danny...

[itrsteve]

Nobody had Jaylen at #3 in 2016.

+1 a lot of people were calling for Josh Jackson as well.

IMO, there's a lot to screw up at #3 and I'll give him credit for getting those two correct.

[GoGreen]

I said during our dismal off-season that if Ainge didn't improve this roster we'd be a #6 seed by the All Star break...

Hmm, well would you look at that....if we lose tonight to Denver, we're officially the #6 seed!


Saddest part is, we're still two and a half weeks away from the ASG. If things don't improve quickly, the pitchforks are gonna be pre-sharpened and ready to go round here.

Tick tock Danny...

Pitchforks for Brad, I think. Danny will get off easy imo.

[BostonCouchGM]

When you get to pick 20+ you are not going to have perfect players with good length, clean injury history, great skills and intangibles.
Or it could be that Ainge just likes to draft short players even though good, tall players are available.
Because of hubris, or whatever.

hubris or just plain being inept. Take your pick. Either way, he has plenty of people lining up to make excuses for him

[BigTrade92]

I said during our dismal off-season that if Ainge didn't improve this roster we'd be a #6 seed by the All Star break...

Hmm, well would you look at that....if we lose tonight to Denver, we're officially the #6 seed!


Saddest part is, we're still two and a half weeks away from the ASG. If things don't improve quickly, the pitchforks are gonna be pre-sharpened and ready to go round here.

Tick tock Danny...

Pitchforks for Brad, I think. Danny will get off easy imo.

Then our fanbase is pretty dumb if they’re blaming Brad. He has his warts, no doubt about it, but the coach isn’t the issue here.

Stevens has one of the worst benches in the league, no veteran depth and a whopping total of eight actual NBA-caliber players on his roster. You simply can’t win in this league with that type of handicap.

As great as LeBron and AD are, the Lakers don’t win a title last year without their deep depth. Shouldn’t be a secret, but you need a bench to win a title. Apparently Ainge never wised up to that fact and it’s certainly cost this team a few trips to the Finals in the last decade.

[Jaqua92]

Tatum frustrated with the front office?

Posted this on his Instagram.

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[GoGreen]

Tatum frustrated with the front office?

Posted this on his Instagram.

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If he's frustrated, I don't blame him. Danny and the FO has given jack **** around him.

[Gomes3PC]

I am increasingly worried Brad is the problem, not Ainge. Danny is far from infallible, but the talent level on this team is far above their record. Lots of hoops left this year though and Stevens has earned some rope to be patient. My worry with Brad is he gets the most out of under talented try-hards, but both his system and his style don't translate as well in getting the best out of teams looking to get over the edge.

This team has probably outgrown Brad, but if we had a real championship roster it wouldn't matter. In the NBA, the best players/rosters usually win. Plenty of average coaches have succeeded just by having superior built rosters.

Someone else in this thread nailed it, Ainge's repetitive infatuation with going after the 5'11'' guards and 6'7'' bigmen kills us. I an't figure out if it's because he was a small player or what but it needs to stop if we're going to compete for real

Coaching matters. You can have talent but with a subpar coach you're never winning a title.

Not sure where the 5-11 PG angle has come in...if you mean Waters and Edwards, seriously those 2nd round picks are complete flyers and almost totally worthless. Who was the cant-miss piece we wish we took over Edwards? Eric Paschall, another undersized big? Cody Martin?

It's pretty rightful to criticize Ainge for how he handled Haywards departure, holding onto the Memphis/Sacto picks, and his decision to take Nesmith over a guy like Bey. He's far from perfect, like I said.

[denmuscles]

Whats strange is the games Celtics were losing, not one player from the team stepped up to defend Brad Stevens. I think Stevens lost this group when Irving came by

[Bleeding Green]

Tatum frustrated with the front office?

Posted this on his Instagram.

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Did you even listen to what Draymond said?

[Green89]

I said during our dismal off-season that if Ainge didn't improve this roster we'd be a #6 seed by the All Star break...

Hmm, well would you look at that....if we lose tonight to Denver, we're officially the #6 seed!


Saddest part is, we're still two and a half weeks away from the ASG. If things don't improve quickly, the pitchforks are gonna be pre-sharpened and ready to go round here.

Tick tock Danny...

Pitchforks for Brad, I think. Danny will get off easy imo.

Then our fanbase is pretty dumb if they’re blaming Brad. He has his warts, no doubt about it, but the coach isn’t the issue here.

Stevens has one of the worst benches in the league, no veteran depth and a whopping total of eight actual NBA-caliber players on his roster. You simply can’t win in this league with that type of handicap.

As great as LeBron and AD are, the Lakers don’t win a title last year without their deep depth. Shouldn’t be a secret, but you need a bench to win a title. Apparently Ainge never wised up to that fact and it’s certainly cost this team a few trips to the Finals in the last decade.

There's plenty of blame to go around, including Brad, when we're only a game up on the Knicks right now. They don't even have a borderline all star on their team. Take out half our lineup with injuries, and we're still better than them on paper, yet one game separates us. Give Brad a pass on that? Absolutely not.

[Triple7]

Whats strange is the games Celtics were losing, not one player from the team stepped up to defend Brad Stevens. I think Stevens lost this group when Irving came by

Yup most definitely. He mismanaged that team, by failing to define roles, piss poor rotations, and lack of accountability. I thought it was just toxic kyrie, but he still does the same thing over and over. Our offense is stagnant, and now, even our defense, his “supposed” bread and butter, is below average.

[Fencer reregistered]

Whats strange is the games Celtics were losing, not one player from the team stepped up to defend Brad Stevens. I think Stevens lost this group when Irving came by

Yup most definitely. He mismanaged that team, by failing to define roles, piss poor rotations, and lack of accountability. I thought it was just toxic kyrie, but he still does the same thing over and over. Our offense is stagnant, and now, even our defense, his “supposed” bread and butter, is below average.

If Brad lost the team, how did they get back to the ECF? Overwhelming talent?

[Bill Bradley]

Ainge screwed up this past offseason with terrible signings but Brad has been atrocious. He prefers playing scrubs to more talented players. I thought he figured out the rotation last game but guess not. It takes him months to find solutions that casual fans are able to plainly see much before. I mean I missed the game last night but did he really start Javonte instead of Pritchard to replace Kemba? Some of the guys Brad relies on would not sniff the court on another team and should be glued to the bench.

[OldCeltics]

Terrible signings. An giving away all-stars for nothing, by letting them walk. Ainge has been a terrible GM.

We literally have 4 consistent players in Brown/Tatum/Smart/Pritchard. Everyone else is inconsistent, and mostly garbage.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Most of this roster is filled with future Beijing Ducks and Big 3 players. Yes Ainge has signed some big FA but every single one of them left the second their contract was up. One top of that beside Tatum and Brown what has Ainge really done the past 10 years?

At some point Wyc has to realize that giving Danny the GM for life position was not a great idea.

[BK_2020]

Ainge should go but not for dumb reasons like not signing one roleplayer over another. Or because Horford and Hayward left for money that we never would have and could have paid. He should go because of the moves he didn't make.
Ainge could have rebuilt the roster and given this team a chance by taking some risks in the off-season and during the Harden sweepstakes. Not just one, but TWO top 15 players were available in Chris Paul and Harden. Imagine how different things would look if we had found a way to trade Kemba for Chris Paul or traded Jaylen and picks for Harden.
Now we are left holding on to Jaylen **** Brown and pretending he's a star in this league. lmfao. This team is cooked. Gonna become a Nets fan now.