Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension

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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#61 » by magee » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:22 pm

I don't see the Blazers matching a contract larger than $15 mill. per year. Not with a Nurkic extension looming.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#62 » by iamworthy » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:24 pm

magee wrote:I don't see the Blazers matching a contract larger than $15 mill. per year. Not with a Nurkic extension looming.


Then they need to trade him.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#63 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:39 pm

The best move would be pay him, try him at SF for a year (While still getting backup SG minutes) and reassess summer 2022 when RoCo and Nurkic are set to be paid. He isnt Allen Crabbe, he wont lose value on a big deal. His contract will be immensely movable even at 18M AV barring some anomaly where he regresses a ton.

Olshey just doesnt trade young guys that are playing well and whom he drafted. Its super rare for him.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#64 » by Swish1906 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:43 pm

Lunartic wrote:That's a smart move, some team will throw 17/18m at him. He's young, can defend, shoot, and dribble.
A team like Dallas would love him


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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#65 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:28 pm

magee wrote:I don't see the Blazers matching a contract larger than $15 mill. per year. Not with a Nurkic extension looming.

im not sure blazers win resign nurk cause of his health, at least not for a big money

if its between nurk and trent jr, they might resign trent jr and resign kanter

i have no idea, neil olshey will have a work to do... collins will also be rfa this summer
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#66 » by ItsDanger » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:30 pm

Undersized SG? More likely he wants to escape Dame & CJ.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#67 » by basketballRob » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:32 pm

Dzon Dilindzer wrote:
magee wrote:I don't see the Blazers matching a contract larger than $15 mill. per year. Not with a Nurkic extension looming.

im not sure blazers win resign nurk cause of his health, at least not for a big money

if its between nurk and trent jr, they might resign trent jr and resign kanter

i have no idea, neil olshey will have a work to do... collins will also be rfa this summer
Nurkic has a contract next year, it's not fully guaranteed.

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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#68 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:34 pm

Yall don't get it, he gotta fight the power! Don't let The Man sucka you, and pull the wool over your eyes
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#69 » by Scalabrine » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:50 pm

LloydFree wrote:
reamily wrote:Wait he bumped himself like what a plus 5 million on his annual contract max?.. good scorer but 60 mill 4 year guy is a stretch..

You're crazy. Joe Harris got 70 and Davis Bertans got 80. Trent Jr is better than both of them, while still being college age. Barring injury he'll break the bank.


I dont think there is a single measure that says Trent is better than Harris. Not a single stat. It's also worth mentioning that both the Wizards and Nets were well over the cap and had no choice but to give them the bag because they wouldn't be able to replace them otherwise...

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=trentga02&p1yrfrom=2021&player_id2=harrijo01&p2yrfrom=2021

He doesn't really have a case. 2 assists per 100 possessions. 3 rebounds per 100 possessions.

While I feel like he does have the tools to be a good defensive player his 120 DRating and 2.3DBPM rank him as the only player in the league in the bottom 10 in both categories.

Given his age, shooting prowess, and hype/potential, he'll definitely get more than the 13.5 million he reportedly declined, but I don't think he's gonna be worth it unless he gets better areas outside of shooting the ball.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#70 » by BNM » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:51 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Undersized SG? More likely he wants to escape Dame & CJ.


Is 6'5" 209 lb undersized for a SG? Seems about average, maybe slightly above average, size for a starting SG in the Western Conference.

When the Blazers drafted him, one of the positives in his scouting report was that he already had an NBA-ready body at the age of 19.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#71 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:04 pm

If Trent JR is undersized for a SG then about 80% of SG's in the league are undersized.

I dont think there is a single measure that says Trent is better than Harris. Not a single stat


I mean, Harris wasnt even a rotation guy until 25. GTJ is getting near 15ppg at age 22. Its not about what he is now in terms of paying him, it about what you expect him to become.

Joe Harris would have gotten more than 70M last summer if he was putting up 19/20 Joe Harris numbers but was 22 rather than 28.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#72 » by matt6715 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:23 pm

He's getting $80M over 4 years. believe it
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Post#73 » by DreamTeam09 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:26 pm

I wouldn't want my team to spend a dollar more on Trent
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#74 » by Jasen777 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:29 pm

Swish1906 wrote:
Lunartic wrote:That's a smart move, some team will throw 17/18m at him. He's young, can defend, shoot, and dribble.
A team like Dallas would love him


Fun fact: his dad was a teammate of rookie Dirk


For more than Dirk's rookie year. I remember the Mavs staff tried to putting Dirk on Gary Trent's weightlifting program, lucky they didn't get him hurt.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#75 » by Jabroni Lames » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:40 pm

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islanders11040 wrote:Probably knows he can get more


The only team I could see throw him a decent-sized contract are the Knicks. They need shooting at the starting 2. Help space the floor for Barrett and Randle.


Knicks are going after Zach Lavine in free agency, way before Gary Trent. NYK is a legit free agent destination again. The laughing stock days are over with Thibs in there.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#76 » by Richard4444 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:52 pm

Jabroni Lames wrote:
magee wrote:
islanders11040 wrote:Probably knows he can get more


The only team I could see throw him a decent-sized contract are the Knicks. They need shooting at the starting 2. Help space the floor for Barrett and Randle.


Knicks are going after Zach Lavine in free agency, way before Gary Trent. NYK is a legit free agent destination again. The laughing stock days are over with Thibs in there.


Zach will be a FA only in 2022.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#77 » by Swish1906 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:02 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:
Lunartic wrote:That's a smart move, some team will throw 17/18m at him. He's young, can defend, shoot, and dribble.
A team like Dallas would love him


Fun fact: his dad was a teammate of rookie Dirk


For more than Dirk's rookie year. I remember the Mavs staff tried to putting Dirk on Gary Trent's weightlifting program, lucky they didn't get him hurt.


Yep. And how he had to bang against Trent in practice too.

Nowitzki: My first year, I lived in that place over there with Steve, just on rent. And I knew I was just going to be here for a couple of months, so I didn’t want to buy a car right then. So I rented a car for my first full season here. I forget what. It was maybe a Cutlass or a Hyundai. The guys would always kill me: “Get a car!” Gary Trent was always murdering me. I don’t think it even had air conditioning.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#78 » by BNM » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:10 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:If Trent JR is undersized for a SG then about 80% of SG's in the league are undersized.

I dont think there is a single measure that says Trent is better than Harris. Not a single stat


I mean, Harris wasnt even a rotation guy until 25. GTJ is getting near 15ppg at age 22. Its not about what he is now in terms of paying him, it about what you expect him to become.

Joe Harris would have gotten more than 70M last summer if he was putting up 19/20 Joe Harris numbers but was 22 rather than 28.


Yep, beat me to it. Joe Harris is 7.5 years older than Gary Trent. Trent just turned 22 a month ago. Joe Harris had not even played 1 minute of NBA ball at that age. Trent is still very young and improving. Joe Harris will be paid nearly $20 million at the age of 32. Trent will get paid. A lot of teams, mostly bad, will have money to throw at free agents, and Trent would be a great starting SG for an up-and-coming/rebuilding team to lock up long term.

POR has done a great job of developing guards during the Stotts era. Lillard and McCollum are the obvious examples. I was never a fan of Allen Crabbe, but he definitely outplayed his draft position. Same with Pat Connaughton and Will Barton. Like Trent, those last three were all 2nd round picks.

Now, in addition to Trent, Anfernee Simons is starting to break out. In his last 13 games, Simons is averaging 12.9 ppg off the bench on .457 3FG% on high volume (3.3 made 3FG per game). And he's even younger than Trent. C.J.'s absence has given the young guys a chance to show what they can do, and they've really come through.

The forward spots continue to be a weakness for POR, and with Nurk and Collins out, they are also weak up front. At some point, a consolidation trade would help balance the roster. I'm not sure when that will be, and what it will look like. At this point, they could even consider moving C.J. for a comparable talent at forward and move Trent permanently into the starting SG spot. Who knows, but having a surplus of guards who can shoot the ball is a luxury, especially given the age of two of them. Hopefully, they can leverage those assets to balance and improve the roster.
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Post#79 » by Kingdibs19 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:15 pm

I watched the weekend torch the Lakers. He’s worth more on the open market, smart choice.
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Re: Apparently Gary Trent Jr. declined a 4 year/53.7 mil extension 

Post#80 » by ItsDanger » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:19 pm

BNM wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Undersized SG? More likely he wants to escape Dame & CJ.


Is 6'5" 209 lb undersized for a SG? Seems about average, maybe slightly above average, size for a starting SG in the Western Conference.

When the Blazers drafted him, one of the positives in his scouting report was that he already had an NBA-ready body at the age of 19.

Sorry, I meant SG/SF. When the starters play heavy minutes, there really isn't a lot of time for him. I'd probably test the waters as well.
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