Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[SAKURABA216]

If Jimmy Butler became available, what would you guys give up for him?

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

I would rather have this season's Wiggins over this season's Butler...not to mention mortgaging the future for him.

Playoff Butler is an animal though lol. The Heat took out both the Celtics and the Bucks in dominant fashion last season. Jimmy also has something in spades that Wiggins has always lacked and that's a competitiveness and the desire to finally win a championship.

This is all a pipe-dream anyways because Jimmy has cemented himself as the franchise player in Miami so theres no way he would want to come to the Bay and play 3rd fiddle to the Splash Bros.

[killmongrel]

If Jimmy Butler became available, what would you guys give up for him?

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

I would rather have this season's Wiggins over this season's Butler...not to mention mortgaging the future for him.

Sure, if we narrowed it down like that. But Jimmy can be the 1st or 2nd option on a championship team. I don't believe that to be the case with Wiggins who I see as a solid 3rd option. I like Wiggins, but if this deal became available, I would have no problem trading him. It's the trading of our future that has me squeamish.

[ahmetmekin]

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

I would rather have this season's Wiggins over this season's Butler...not to mention mortgaging the future for him.

Playoff Butler is an animal though lol. The Heat took out both the Celtics and the Bucks in dominant fashion last season. Jimmy also has something in spades that Wiggins has always lacked and that's a competitiveness and the desire to finally win a championship.

This is all a pipe-dream anyways because Jimmy has cemented himself as the franchise player in Miami so theres no way he would want to come to the Bay and play 3rd fiddle to the Splash Bros.

I would give up a lot since Curry Klay Butler Dray is a guaranteed top level offense and defense.
Also Butler is better than Klay so 3rd fiddle is not accurate.

[TrueFan420]

If Jimmy Butler became available, what would you guys give up for him?

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

That's what I figure as well. But if we do that, we're going all in as an organization since all our major players would be over 30 years old. Is it worth it? Probably.

Steph/Klay/Butler/Draymond/Looney is a killer lineup if Klay is healthy. But we'd need to an impact player with Oubre's salary or the MLE. Hope to get Iguodala with the vet. minimum. Some vets to ring chase.

Steph/Klay/Butler/Draymond/Looney with a bench of:

Oubre's salary, Iguodala, JTA, Paschall, Lee, Mulder, Bazemore(?), Poole, Smailagic and then decide what to do with Mannion and Jessup.

Yea I mean we def be all in but I think that core at their age would still manage to win 2 chips. It’s def a gamble and wouldn’t be easy choice but man that team would be filthy on both sides of the ball. No one would want a piece of us. Filling out the bench with vets would be huge and something our FO seems to struggle with of late. Haven’t landed the top options.

[TrueFan420]

If Jimmy Butler became available, what would you guys give up for him?

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

I would rather have this season's Wiggins over this season's Butler...not to mention mortgaging the future for him.

I’d take Butler over Wiggins literally any day. Butler is criminally underrated cause he’s viewed as a bad apple. Dude is dog and doesn’t take ish. He’d love Dray. May fight him but they’d be immense together. Curry and Klay low key but they both put in crazy work and Jimmy respects that. That’s in fact all he respects. So they’d be fine.

The question is, how many rings would that move net us and is it worth mortgaging the future for it.

[wco81]

Butler had some big games in the playoffs last year. But you could tell he was beat and was too hard by himself.

[SAKURABA216]

Not Curry, Klay or Dray. But I’d have to seriously consider putting the future on hold for Jimmy. We’d be a damn near lock to win the title every year. He can iso score. He’s a freaking monster defensively. He’s a legit playmaker.

It would be a tough pill but I’d imagine the convo would be Wiggins, Wiseman and the Min pick.

I would rather have this season's Wiggins over this season's Butler...not to mention mortgaging the future for him.

I’d take Butler over Wiggins literally any day. Butler is criminally underrated cause he’s viewed as a bad apple. Dude is dog and doesn’t take ish. He’d love Dray. May fight him but they’d be immense together. Curry and Klay low key but they both put in crazy work and Jimmy respects that. That’s in fact all he respects. So they’d be fine.

The question is, how many rings would that move net us and is it worth mortgaging the future for it.

Great points here, Jimmy would be perfect on this team. Knowing how Riley treated Wade, maybe Butler will join us someday when he's on the decline so our guys can make one last run. Hell, maybe KD even comes back for that too.

[tarantism]

We could probably get Butler for just the Minny pick and keep Wiseman. Might have to add a future pick. That being said, I'm pretty sure Miami loves him and he's happy there. They aren't trading him.

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[cdubbz]

We could probably get Butler for just the Minny pick and keep Wiseman. Might have to add a future pick. That being said, I'm pretty sure Miami loves him and he's happy there. They aren't trading him.

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pass on Butler.

[TB]

what happened to Jimmy Butlers shot? He's in a two year draymond like shooting decline from 3.

[xdrta+]

what happened to Jimmy Butlers shot? He's in a two year draymond like shooting decline from 3.

I know, he was never a great 3 point shooter but at least in the low to mid-thirties. Last year he sank to 24% and this year a scary 16.7%. I shudder to think what he might be next year.

[Rudruff]

What about Oubre/filler and the Minny 1st for Jerami Grant?

I don't know if the Pistons do it, but running the 2021 mock draft simulators would be Detroit porn.

[cdubbz]

What about Oubre/filler and the Minny 1st for Jerami Grant?

I don't know if the Pistons do it, but running the 2021 mock draft simulators would be Detroit porn.

no for me!

This draft class is DEEP!!! Franchise player level talent. Only way I trade it is for an already established all-star.

[tarantism]

This thread is like Groundhogs Day

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[SAKURABA216]

What about Oubre/filler and the Minny 1st for Jerami Grant?

I don't know if the Pistons do it, but running the 2021 mock draft simulators would be Detroit porn.

no for me!

This draft class is DEEP!!! Franchise player level talent. Only way I trade it is for an already established all-star.

Seriously, I can't believe Mobley and Jalen Green are slipping to #4 and #5, respectively.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Hell, if our own pick lands in the 15-20 range and we end up with #4 or #5 from Minnesota, we might be able to combine the picks and trade up into the top 3!

Looking at the teams that could potentially land in the top 5 might also give us some idea of who could be available:

Detroit just drafted a point guard and has Bey and Grant at the 3 and 4 spot so I think they would likely take Cade, Mobley or Green.

Washington has their backcourt set and not much else so I think they would take Kuminga, Mobley, or Zaire Williams.

Cleveland also has their backcourt set with Sex-land so I think they will take a forward or center as well.

Orlando needs everything besides center and Jonathan Isaac can play both forward positions so I think everyone is in play for them.

OKC is only committed to SGA so everyone is in play for them.

Therefore, if we end up with the #4 pick behind Detroit/Washington/Cleveland we are pretty much guaranteed one of Suggs or Green, assuming no team passes on Cade. Even if OKC or Orlando picks at #4 and we pick at #5 we would be guaranteed whichever of Suggs or Green is left.

[TrueFan420]

This thread is like Groundhogs Day

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Only difference is we actually keep coming back for it. Bill Murray didn’t have a choice.

[TrueFan420]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

[xdrta+]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

What happened to Tucker, anyway? I've only seen him play once this season and he just sort of looked sluggish, but his stats are terrible. Still playing 30 minutes a game, but geez, nothing like his normal game.

[killmongrel]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

I don't want the FO to spend more than the vet. minimum for any other players we sign this season unless it's a big time player. I don't see anybody who fits that category that might get bought out or we could trade for this year.

[wco81]

What about Oubre/filler and the Minny 1st for Jerami Grant?

I don't know if the Pistons do it, but running the 2021 mock draft simulators would be Detroit porn.

no for me!

This draft class is DEEP!!! Franchise player level talent. Only way I trade it is for an already established all-star.

Seriously, I can't believe Mobley and Jalen Green are slipping to #4 and #5, respectively.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Hell, if our own pick lands in the 15-20 range and we end up with #4 or #5 from Minnesota, we might be able to combine the picks and trade up into the top 3!

Looking at the teams that could potentially land in the top 5 might also give us some idea of who could be available:

Detroit just drafted a point guard and has Bey and Grant at the 3 and 4 spot so I think they would likely take Cade, Mobley or Green.

Washington has their backcourt set and not much else so I think they would take Kuminga, Mobley, or Zaire Williams.

Cleveland also has their backcourt set with Sex-land so I think they will take a forward or center as well.

Orlando needs everything besides center and Jonathan Isaac can play both forward positions so I think everyone is in play for them.

OKC is only committed to SGA so everyone is in play for them.

Therefore, if we end up with the #4 pick behind Detroit/Washington/Cleveland we are pretty much guaranteed one of Suggs or Green, assuming no team passes on Cade. Even if OKC or Orlando picks at #4 and we pick at #5 we would be guaranteed whichever of Suggs or Green is left.

Right now the Warriors are #21 or #22 in the draft order, as only #7 in the WC. There's a good chance that we get in around #7-10, lose the play-in and lose their own FRP without even playing a full 7-game series.

Also, if Minnesota keeps tanking, they have a good shot at keeping their 2021 pick.

So Warriors could end up with no picks this year, but a quick playoffs exit.

Basically the worst case scenario.