Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[SAKURABA216]

no for me!

This draft class is DEEP!!! Franchise player level talent. Only way I trade it is for an already established all-star.

Seriously, I can't believe Mobley and Jalen Green are slipping to #4 and #5, respectively.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Hell, if our own pick lands in the 15-20 range and we end up with #4 or #5 from Minnesota, we might be able to combine the picks and trade up into the top 3!

Looking at the teams that could potentially land in the top 5 might also give us some idea of who could be available:

Detroit just drafted a point guard and has Bey and Grant at the 3 and 4 spot so I think they would likely take Cade, Mobley or Green.

Washington has their backcourt set and not much else so I think they would take Kuminga, Mobley, or Zaire Williams.

Cleveland also has their backcourt set with Sex-land so I think they will take a forward or center as well.

Orlando needs everything besides center and Jonathan Isaac can play both forward positions so I think everyone is in play for them.

OKC is only committed to SGA so everyone is in play for them.

Therefore, if we end up with the #4 pick behind Detroit/Washington/Cleveland we are pretty much guaranteed one of Suggs or Green, assuming no team passes on Cade. Even if OKC or Orlando picks at #4 and we pick at #5 we would be guaranteed whichever of Suggs or Green is left.

Right now the Warriors are #21 or #22 in the draft order, as only #7 in the WC. There's a good chance that we get in around #7-10, lose the play-in and lose their own FRP without even playing a full 7-game series.

Also, if Minnesota keeps tanking, they have a good shot at keeping their 2021 pick.

So Warriors could end up with no picks this year, but a quick playoffs exit.

Basically the worst case scenario.

That would be a disaster. Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't realize that the only way we keep our pick AND get into the playoffs is if we get the 8th seed because the east is so bad. I think our schedule is going to be getting easier too so we will probably be winning more games over the next few weeks and I don't think there are any teams in the Eastern conference that will be able to win more games than us outside of the 76ers, Nets, and Bucks. We need the Heat and Celtics to start winning more games if we want to keep our pick then.

[tarantism]

Seriously, I can't believe Mobley and Jalen Green are slipping to #4 and #5, respectively.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Hell, if our own pick lands in the 15-20 range and we end up with #4 or #5 from Minnesota, we might be able to combine the picks and trade up into the top 3!

Looking at the teams that could potentially land in the top 5 might also give us some idea of who could be available:

Detroit just drafted a point guard and has Bey and Grant at the 3 and 4 spot so I think they would likely take Cade, Mobley or Green.

Washington has their backcourt set and not much else so I think they would take Kuminga, Mobley, or Zaire Williams.

Cleveland also has their backcourt set with Sex-land so I think they will take a forward or center as well.

Orlando needs everything besides center and Jonathan Isaac can play both forward positions so I think everyone is in play for them.

OKC is only committed to SGA so everyone is in play for them.

Therefore, if we end up with the #4 pick behind Detroit/Washington/Cleveland we are pretty much guaranteed one of Suggs or Green, assuming no team passes on Cade. Even if OKC or Orlando picks at #4 and we pick at #5 we would be guaranteed whichever of Suggs or Green is left.

Right now the Warriors are #21 or #22 in the draft order, as only #7 in the WC. There's a good chance that we get in around #7-10, lose the play-in and lose their own FRP without even playing a full 7-game series.

Also, if Minnesota keeps tanking, they have a good shot at keeping their 2021 pick.

So Warriors could end up with no picks this year, but a quick playoffs exit.

Basically the worst case scenario.

That would be a disaster. Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't realize that the only way we keep our pick AND get into the playoffs is if we get the 8th seed because the east is so bad. I think our schedule is going to be getting easier too so we will probably be winning more games over the next few weeks and I don't think there are any teams in the Eastern conference that will be able to win more games than us outside of the 76ers, Nets, and Bucks. We need the Heat and Celtics to start winning more games if we want to keep our pick then.

We might win more games! What a disaster!

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[SAKURABA216]

In his scenario we lose out on making the playoffs, lose out on our pick, and lose the Minnesota pick so yeah that would suck.

[cdubbz]

Giannis is set to make $39m, $42, $45 next few seasons. A trade next season just costs Wiggins ($29) & Wiseman ($8) and some change to salary match.

Best case is we can offer our own 2021 pick if we get it or Minny pick (and keep our own)

Warriors recieve: Giannis
Bucks recieve: Wiggins, Wiseman, Jalen Green* or Suggs*

Bucks can't land a better future than that right?

[tarantism]

Giannis is set to make $39m, $42, $45 next few seasons. A trade next season just costs Wiggins ($29) & Wiseman ($8) and some change to salary match.

Best case is we can offer our own 2021 pick if we get it or Minny pick (and keep our own)

Warriors recieve: Giannis
Bucks recieve: Wiggins, Wiseman, Jalen Green* or Suggs*

Bucks can't land a better future than that right?

Why would Giannis become available?

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[cdubbz]

Giannis is set to make $39m, $42, $45 next few seasons. A trade next season just costs Wiggins ($29) & Wiseman ($8) and some change to salary match.

Best case is we can offer our own 2021 pick if we get it or Minny pick (and keep our own)

Warriors recieve: Giannis
Bucks recieve: Wiggins, Wiseman, Jalen Green* or Suggs*

Bucks can't land a better future than that right?

Why would Giannis become available?

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Steph gives him a hug and whispers in his ear "it's your time" and Giannis asks for a trade James Harden style.

If Bucks don't make the Finals or even ECF it has got to get furstrating. Bucks future looks bad. Adding a top pick and Wiseman is not the worst refresh.

[TrueFan420]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

What happened to Tucker, anyway? I've only seen him play once this season and he just sort of looked sluggish, but his stats are terrible. Still playing 30 minutes a game, but geez, nothing like his normal game.

No idea... he was unhappy and wanted out with Harden. I wouldn’t surprised if he’s just over it and see a better player once he’s traded or cut and engaged again. He could also just not be the same player anymore.

[TrueFan420]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

I don't want the FO to spend more than the vet. minimum for any other players we sign this season unless it's a big time player. I don't see anybody who fits that category that might get bought out or we could trade for this year.

So if there’s a player out there that can help us get into the playoffs and potentially win you don’t want to target them unless they’re a super star or all start or whatever big time means to you. Both of those players make our team better here and now and shouldn’t cost us much to get. Just a higher tax bill for the year.

[killmongrel]

Anyone else thing we should target Nemanja Bjelica with the DPE. Tucker would be great too but he’s mostly just a defender at this point. We could use the scoring punch and added height even if he isn’t much of a defender.

I don't want the FO to spend more than the vet. minimum for any other players we sign this season unless it's a big time player. I don't see anybody who fits that category that might get bought out or we could trade for this year.

So if there’s a player out there that can help us get into the playoffs and potentially win you don’t want to target them unless they’re a super star or all start or whatever big time means to you. Both of those players make our team better here and now and shouldn’t cost us much to get. Just a higher tax bill for the year.

If Bjelica or Tucker gets bought out and the Warriors can sign him for the vet. minimum, then by all means. If it takes assets or more than the vet. minimum to get either of them, then I'm okay with the FO taking the cheap route. Like I said, I don't see any player we can sign this year that doesn't revolve around a big trade or Oubre's salary slot that is going to make a difference. I'd rather the FO focus on this summer unless there's a move that makes us a contender this season.

[tarantism]

I'm all about using the DPE to sign a vet minimum guy but if we do that player should really be a playmaker.

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[TrueFan420]

I don't want the FO to spend more than the vet. minimum for any other players we sign this season unless it's a big time player. I don't see anybody who fits that category that might get bought out or we could trade for this year.

So if there’s a player out there that can help us get into the playoffs and potentially win you don’t want to target them unless they’re a super star or all start or whatever big time means to you. Both of those players make our team better here and now and shouldn’t cost us much to get. Just a higher tax bill for the year.

If Bjelica or Tucker gets bought out and the Warriors can sign him for the vet. minimum, then by all means. If it takes assets or more than the vet. minimum to get either of them, then I'm okay with the FO taking the cheap route. Like I said, I don't see any player we can sign this year that doesn't revolve around a big trade or Oubre's salary slot that is going to make a difference. I'd rather the FO focus on this summer unless there's a move that makes us a contender this season.

Both of those players help this team in different ways. If it cost a 2nd so we snag them instead of having to fight Nets or Lakers you’d pass over a second.

[TrueFan420]

I'm all about using the DPE to sign a vet minimum guy but if we do that player should really be a playmaker.

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We can use the DPE to sign someone for up to 9 million.

[killmongrel]

So if there’s a player out there that can help us get into the playoffs and potentially win you don’t want to target them unless they’re a super star or all start or whatever big time means to you. Both of those players make our team better here and now and shouldn’t cost us much to get. Just a higher tax bill for the year.

If Bjelica or Tucker gets bought out and the Warriors can sign him for the vet. minimum, then by all means. If it takes assets or more than the vet. minimum to get either of them, then I'm okay with the FO taking the cheap route. Like I said, I don't see any player we can sign this year that doesn't revolve around a big trade or Oubre's salary slot that is going to make a difference. I'd rather the FO focus on this summer unless there's a move that makes us a contender this season.

Both of those players help this team in different ways. If it cost a 2nd so we snag them instead of having to fight Nets or Lakers you’d pass over a second.

Sure, but does adding Bjelica or Tucker make this team go from a playoff team to a Finals contender? If the answer is no, do not expect the FO to spend that money nor should they.

[tarantism]

I'm all about using the DPE to sign a vet minimum guy but if we do that player should really be a playmaker.

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We can use the DPE to sign someone for up to 9 million.

Okay. Not really my point though.

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[TrueFan420]

If Bjelica or Tucker gets bought out and the Warriors can sign him for the vet. minimum, then by all means. If it takes assets or more than the vet. minimum to get either of them, then I'm okay with the FO taking the cheap route. Like I said, I don't see any player we can sign this year that doesn't revolve around a big trade or Oubre's salary slot that is going to make a difference. I'd rather the FO focus on this summer unless there's a move that makes us a contender this season.

Both of those players help this team in different ways. If it cost a 2nd so we snag them instead of having to fight Nets or Lakers you’d pass over a second.

Sure, but does adding Bjelica or Tucker make this team go from a playoff team to a Finals contender? If the answer is no, do not expect the FO to spend that money nor should they.

This team isn’t even a lock to make the playoffs. We need to improve and I absolutely expect them to make the move to insure we get to the playoffs.

[TrueFan420]

I'm all about using the DPE to sign a vet minimum guy but if we do that player should really be a playmaker.

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We can use the DPE to sign someone for up to 9 million.

Okay. Not really my point though.

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If we sign a vet min guy we wouldn’t use the DPE. We’d just sign them to a vet min.

Agree we need more playmakers.

[killmongrel]

Both of those players help this team in different ways. If it cost a 2nd so we snag them instead of having to fight Nets or Lakers you’d pass over a second.

Sure, but does adding Bjelica or Tucker make this team go from a playoff team to a Finals contender? If the answer is no, do not expect the FO to spend that money nor should they.

This team isn’t even a lock to make the playoffs. We need to improve and I absolutely expect them to make the move to insure we get to the playoffs.

I disagree. I think this team is good enough to get to the playoffs. But like I said, Lacob and crew is not spending millions in luxury tax just to be a second round exit.

[tarantism]

We can use the DPE to sign someone for up to 9 million.

Okay. Not really my point though.

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If we sign a vet min guy we wouldn’t use the DPE. We’d just sign them to a vet min.

Agree we need more playmakers.

I gotcha. Well either way we run into the issue of roster space. Chriss is easy enough to cut to clear up one spot but it gets tricky beyond that.

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[xdrta+]

Okay. Not really my point though.

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If we sign a vet min guy we wouldn’t use the DPE. We’d just sign them to a vet min.

Agree we need more playmakers.

I gotcha. Well either way we run into the issue of roster space. Chriss is easy enough to cut to clear up one spot but it gets tricky beyond that.

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Especially if they want to bring JTA to the playoffs, which I imagine Kerr does. They would have to clear a roster spot for him.

[donkeylips]

Can they cut smiley, convert jta to a contract then give smiley a two way contract?

I forgot the details of Chriss’ contracts last season