Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[Feed Your Head]

Ainge should go but not for dumb reasons like not signing one roleplayer over another. Or because Horford and Hayward left for money that we never would have and could have paid. He should go because of the moves he didn't make.
Ainge could have rebuilt the roster and given this team a chance by taking some risks in the off-season and during the Harden sweepstakes. Not just one, but TWO top 15 players were available in Chris Paul and Harden. Imagine how different things would look if we had found a way to trade Kemba for Chris Paul or traded Jaylen and picks for Harden.
Now we are left holding on to Jaylen **** Brown and pretending he's a star in this league. lmfao. This team is cooked. Gonna become a Nets fan now.

[itrsteve]

Whats strange is the games Celtics were losing, not one player from the team stepped up to defend Brad Stevens. I think Stevens lost this group when Irving came by

I honestly can't think of the last time one of the players even referenced his existence in an interview, let alone said anything positive about him.

[Saint Lazarus]

Ainge should go but not for dumb reasons like not signing one roleplayer over another. Or because Horford and Hayward left for money that we never would have and could have paid. He should go because of the moves he didn't make.
Ainge could have rebuilt the roster and given this team a chance by taking some risks in the off-season and during the Harden sweepstakes. Not just one, but TWO top 15 players were available in Chris Paul and Harden. Imagine how different things would look if we had found a way to trade Kemba for Chris Paul or traded Jaylen and picks for Harden.
Now we are left holding on to Jaylen **** Brown and pretending he's a star in this league. lmfao. This team is cooked. Gonna become a Nets fan now.

[BigTrade92]

Pitchforks for Brad, I think. Danny will get off easy imo.

Then our fanbase is pretty dumb if they’re blaming Brad. He has his warts, no doubt about it, but the coach isn’t the issue here.

Stevens has one of the worst benches in the league, no veteran depth and a whopping total of eight actual NBA-caliber players on his roster. You simply can’t win in this league with that type of handicap.

As great as LeBron and AD are, the Lakers don’t win a title last year without their deep depth. Shouldn’t be a secret, but you need a bench to win a title. Apparently Ainge never wised up to that fact and it’s certainly cost this team a few trips to the Finals in the last decade.

There's plenty of blame to go around, including Brad, when we're only a game up on the Knicks right now. They don't even have a borderline all star on their team. Take out half our lineup with injuries, and we're still better than them on paper, yet one game separates us. Give Brad a pass on that? Absolutely not.

As I already said, Brad certainly has his warts. He’s not blameless whatsoever, but he also isn’t the central issue.

Ainge is.

To field this joke of a roster on a team looking to compete for a title is criminal.

[BK_2020]

Brad took a team with Avery Bradley as the 2nd option to the ECF. Then he did it with a team that had rookie Tatum and Terry Rozier as the best two players. He's not the problem.

[Ernest]

The problem is clearly the lack on fans. I'm not talking about the empty arenas, I'm talking about the empty hearts around here.

[Dubious Handles]

How do you guys not find it infuriating that the team Ainge fleeced 8 years ago and acquired a haul that would guarantee the formation of a dynasty ~90% of the time is most probably going to win a ring or two before your team? The Nets are easily winning the east for the foreseeable future and have a real good shot at winning it all.

Fans of bad teams have no expectations because they never believe in success coming their way, when the ownership and management is clueless there is nothing to be done. Is that what the Celitcs have become? I dont see any strong "fire Ainge" movement from the fans, quite the opposite. I come here to see most going out their way to defend him?? Even if you are a big fan of his and think the team just was unlucky the past couple of years, Ainge still has a bad reputation within the players and the GM community. That alone is reason enough to move him into an advisory role and bring another face to the management side of things.

The Turner trade fail alone would drive me nuts if I were a fan of the team. Then you add to it the consistently atrocious bench, the reluctance to gamble on star players, the iso-centric horrific offense, the Kemba contract, the Jeff Teague, etc.

Not trolling btw, just really dont want to see the Nets win a ring and the only team that can stop them in the East is the Celtics with a good GM.

[BK_2020]

How do you guys not find it infuriating that the team Ainge fleeced 8 years ago and acquired a haul that would guarantee the formation of a dynasty ~90% of the time is most probably going to win a ring or two before your team? The Nets are easily winning the east for the foreseeable future and have a real good shot at winning it all.

Fans of bad teams have no expectations because they never believe in success coming their way, when the ownership and management is clueless there is nothing to be done. Is that what the Celitcs have become? I dont see any strong "fire Ainge" movement from the fans, quite the opposite. I come here to see most going out their way to defend him?? Even if you are a big fan of his and think the team just was unlucky the past couple of years, Ainge still has a bad reputation within the players and the GM community. That alone is reason enough to move him into an advisory role and bring another face to the management side of things.

The Turner trade fail alone would drive me nuts if I were a fan of the team. Then you add to it the consistently atrocious bench, the reluctance to gamble on star players, the iso-centric horrific offense, the Kemba contract, the Jeff Teague, etc.

Not trolling btw, just really dont want to see the Nets win a ring and the only team that can stop them in the East is the Celtics with a good GM.

Fire Ainge because Kyrie, KD and Harden wanted to team up in Brooklyn?

[BigTrade92]

How do you guys not find it infuriating that the team Ainge fleeced 8 years ago and acquired a haul that would guarantee the formation of a dynasty ~90% of the time is most probably going to win a ring or two before your team? The Nets are easily winning the east for the foreseeable future and have a real good shot at winning it all.

Fans of bad teams have no expectations because they never believe in success coming their way, when the ownership and management is clueless there is nothing to be done. Is that what the Celitcs have become? I dont see any strong "fire Ainge" movement from the fans, quite the opposite. I come here to see most going out their way to defend him?? Even if you are a big fan of his and think the team just was unlucky the past couple of years, Ainge still has a bad reputation within the players and the GM community. That alone is reason enough to move him into an advisory role and bring another face to the management side of things.

The Turner trade fail alone would drive me nuts if I were a fan of the team. Then you add to it the consistently atrocious bench, the reluctance to gamble on star players, the iso-centric horrific offense, the Kemba contract, the Jeff Teague, etc.

Not trolling btw, just really dont want to see the Nets win a ring and the only team that can stop them in the East is the Celtics with a good GM.

Fire Ainge because Kyrie, KD and Harden wanted to team up in Brooklyn?

I mean, it’s part of it, right?

Ainge felt the need to blow most of our asset load on the oddest player in the league in Kyrie Irving, who then proceeded to drag this team down with him, while Ainge sat back, did nothing and then let his max guy leave for absolutely zilch....a trend he would further continue with Horford and Hayward.

Collin Sexton would look pretty good on this team right about now (not to mention, he’d be one hell of a trade chip that we don’t currently have) rather than the giant void left from Irving or the end result of a reactionary move which had Ainge sign Kemba, which we now see is a disaster, along with being strapped to his max deal like a giant albatross.

If Ainge doesn’t make the boneheaded move to go all in on the flat-earther, there’s no Harden/Irving/Durant trio in Brooklyn.

[SMTBSI]

How do you guys not find it infuriating that the team Ainge fleeced 8 years ago and acquired a haul that would guarantee the formation of a dynasty ~90% of the time is most probably going to win a ring or two before your team? The Nets are easily winning the east for the foreseeable future and have a real good shot at winning it all.

Fans of bad teams have no expectations because they never believe in success coming their way, when the ownership and management is clueless there is nothing to be done. Is that what the Celitcs have become? I dont see any strong "fire Ainge" movement from the fans, quite the opposite. I come here to see most going out their way to defend him?? Even if you are a big fan of his and think the team just was unlucky the past couple of years, Ainge still has a bad reputation within the players and the GM community. That alone is reason enough to move him into an advisory role and bring another face to the management side of things.

The Turner trade fail alone would drive me nuts if I were a fan of the team. Then you add to it the consistently atrocious bench, the reluctance to gamble on star players, the iso-centric horrific offense, the Kemba contract, the Jeff Teague, etc.

Not trolling btw, just really dont want to see the Nets win a ring and the only team that can stop them in the East is the Celtics with a good GM.

Personally, I have no strong feelings about the Brooklyn situation. If they win multiple titles in the next 2-3 years, then we win multiple titles after them in Tatum's prime, all is right in Celtic land. The Celtics have to worry about themselves. All that Brooklyn stuff is water over the dam.

Secondly, while there's plenty to criticize about the current state of the franchise, you are, as fans of other teams often do, stitching a narrative together from facts, opinions, and other entrenched narratives. Re: our fanbase's temperature on Ainge: you haven't read our board very much if you came away with the impression his support here is overwhelming. Re: Ainge's "reputation", give this a read, it might give you some perspective:

https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/1/19/22237956/what-is-it-really-like-to-talk-trades-with-danny-ainge-boston-celtics

There's no denying the Celtics are in a bit of turmoil right now. There's a lot of ways this thing could go, including shakeups from GM down to 17th man. But, we'll take care of our own business, Knicks should look after theirs.

[SMTBSI]

Gonna become a Nets fan now.

Do it. I triple dog dare you. You won't.

[scottyno]

How do you guys not find it infuriating that the team Ainge fleeced 8 years ago and acquired a haul that would guarantee the formation of a dynasty ~90% of the time is most probably going to win a ring or two before your team? The Nets are easily winning the east for the foreseeable future and have a real good shot at winning it all.

Fans of bad teams have no expectations because they never believe in success coming their way, when the ownership and management is clueless there is nothing to be done. Is that what the Celitcs have become? I dont see any strong "fire Ainge" movement from the fans, quite the opposite. I come here to see most going out their way to defend him?? Even if you are a big fan of his and think the team just was unlucky the past couple of years, Ainge still has a bad reputation within the players and the GM community. That alone is reason enough to move him into an advisory role and bring another face to the management side of things.

The Turner trade fail alone would drive me nuts if I were a fan of the team. Then you add to it the consistently atrocious bench, the reluctance to gamble on star players, the iso-centric horrific offense, the Kemba contract, the Jeff Teague, etc.

Not trolling btw, just really dont want to see the Nets win a ring and the only team that can stop them in the East is the Celtics with a good GM.

Fire Ainge because Kyrie, KD and Harden wanted to team up in Brooklyn?

I mean, it’s part of it, right?

Ainge felt the need to blow most of our asset load on the oddest player in the league in Kyrie Irving, who then proceeded to drag this team down with him, while Ainge sat back, did nothing and then let his max guy leave for absolutely zilch....a trend he would further continue with Horford and Hayward.

Collin Sexton would look pretty good on this team right about now (not to mention, he’d be one hell of a trade chip that we don’t currently have) rather than the giant void left from Irving or the end result of a reactionary move which had Ainge sign Kemba, which we now see is a disaster, along with being strapped to his max deal like a giant albatross.

If Ainge doesn’t make the boneheaded move to go all in on the flat-earther, there’s no Harden/Irving/Durant trio in Brooklyn.

Trading essentially 1 pick for 2 years of a young all star to pair with your other young rising stars hopefully for the long term was going all in?

[Celtic Koala]

Kyrie was one of the youngest and most talented guys in the league when Danny traded for him and he is miles ahead more valueable than Crowder, IT (injured) and Sexton. Expecting Danny to predict he was a nut case and that the young core would loath him is a bit of an stretch, and we don't fully know why he didn't try to trade him (maybe he was building up the image of the team after the IT trade)

[BigTrade92]

Fire Ainge because Kyrie, KD and Harden wanted to team up in Brooklyn?

I mean, it’s part of it, right?

Ainge felt the need to blow most of our asset load on the oddest player in the league in Kyrie Irving, who then proceeded to drag this team down with him, while Ainge sat back, did nothing and then let his max guy leave for absolutely zilch....a trend he would further continue with Horford and Hayward.

Collin Sexton would look pretty good on this team right about now (not to mention, he’d be one hell of a trade chip that we don’t currently have) rather than the giant void left from Irving or the end result of a reactionary move which had Ainge sign Kemba, which we now see is a disaster, along with being strapped to his max deal like a giant albatross.

If Ainge doesn’t make the boneheaded move to go all in on the flat-earther, there’s no Harden/Irving/Durant trio in Brooklyn.

Trading essentially 1 pick for 2 years of a young all star to pair with your other young rising stars hopefully for the long term was going all in?

The pick he traded was the team’s single best pick asset and the player you got was a looney toon, who destroyed the culture and caused a reset of talent and personality.

You don’t seriously need me to explain this further, do you?

[GoCeltics123]

I mean, it’s part of it, right?

Ainge felt the need to blow most of our asset load on the oddest player in the league in Kyrie Irving, who then proceeded to drag this team down with him, while Ainge sat back, did nothing and then let his max guy leave for absolutely zilch....a trend he would further continue with Horford and Hayward.

Collin Sexton would look pretty good on this team right about now (not to mention, he’d be one hell of a trade chip that we don’t currently have) rather than the giant void left from Irving or the end result of a reactionary move which had Ainge sign Kemba, which we now see is a disaster, along with being strapped to his max deal like a giant albatross.

If Ainge doesn’t make the boneheaded move to go all in on the flat-earther, there’s no Harden/Irving/Durant trio in Brooklyn.

Trading essentially 1 pick for 2 years of a young all star to pair with your other young rising stars hopefully for the long term was going all in?

The pick he traded was the team’s single best pick asset and the player you got was a looney toon, who destroyed the culture and caused a reset of talent and personality.

You don’t seriously need me to explain this further, do you?

I'm not fully defending Ainge or anything but that trade was an absolute no-brainer. If you don't think that you're nuts.

IT's hip was done. We had to move on or we'd be left with nothing at point guard. We upgraded at PG and got off IT's upcoming free agency.

[Feed Your Head]

The Kyrie experiment was a disaster.

It’s a trade you make every single time.

[BigTrade92]

Trading essentially 1 pick for 2 years of a young all star to pair with your other young rising stars hopefully for the long term was going all in?

The pick he traded was the team’s single best pick asset and the player you got was a looney toon, who destroyed the culture and caused a reset of talent and personality.

You don’t seriously need me to explain this further, do you?

I'm not fully defending Ainge or anything but that trade was an absolute no-brainer. If you don't think that you're nuts.

IT's hip was done. We had to move on or we'd be left with nothing at point guard. We upgraded at PG and got off IT's upcoming free agency.

It clearly wasn’t a no brainer considering the person that was acquired.

Ainge and his minions went to great lengths a month ago to tell the world how the team “looked into” Harden and ultimately passed and felt he wasn’t a good fit.

Where was that with Kyrie? So what you’re telling me is, Ainge didn’t do his due diligence and made a move any arm chair NBA 2K My Career player would’ve made?

Sounds like your making an excuse for bad GMing.

[Spin Move]

Yea, Kyrie when he is acting sane is great, we had a run of bad luck with that, Hayward getting hurt leading to Kyrie being unhappy, and we pivoted out of that situation pretty well.

People need to chill, how many games this year have we had our top 4 players (Tatum, Brown, Kemba Smart) your not going to in as many games when your missing top guys. We have also blown some games that we should have won. Step away from the panic buttons.

Right now not pulling the trigger on GH for Turner looks like a big mistake, we will see how it looks at the start of next season. Pritchard looks like a good pick for his slot, Nesmith now that he is getting minutes looks good. Letting GH go has enabled Brown to finally take the leap, the season is young. Kemba's health is the big question mark and that is out of our (or danny's control) if Kemba and Smart come back healthy we are a really good team, if not we are a really young team still that outside of Kemba has alot of time.

Are the Raptors or heat bowing us out of the water record wise? I don't think so, this season is gonna be kinda flukey, the pandemic has messed things up, for a young team like ours it probbably messed things up a little more then most. We have a solid core, all our future firsts and a massive trade exception. Does danny win an award for this offseason of course not but he is sill far better then most and our roster is far better then most, patience my friends, patience.

[FrodoFraggins]

Where was Danny supposed to unearth this info that Kyrie would clash with our young players and flake out? Trading for Kyrie wasn't a mistake at the time. I don't remember any analysts saying that the Celtics have no idea what they are in for with Kyrie. The only info out there was that he was sick of being second fiddle to Lebron who tended to 'son' him.

Danny did make a mistake in not trading him at the deadline or at least seriously looking into it. But I guess he thought losing him for nothing was worth going for a title with him. I'm not sure many predicted Kyrie would just quit on the team in the playoffs.

I hate how Danny handled the team last year at the deadline though. If he thought we could go for the title then holding on to Hayward made sense but not trading to improve the roster did not. If he thought getting the title was a low percentage then he should have traded Hayward who clearly wasn't happy being third or fourth fiddle.

At this point we are much further from a title than we were a year ago and have fewer assets to improve with.

[SMTBSI]

The pick he traded was the team’s single best pick asset and the player you got was a looney toon, who destroyed the culture and caused a reset of talent and personality.

You don’t seriously need me to explain this further, do you?

I'm not fully defending Ainge or anything but that trade was an absolute no-brainer. If you don't think that you're nuts.

IT's hip was done. We had to move on or we'd be left with nothing at point guard. We upgraded at PG and got off IT's upcoming free agency.

It clearly wasn’t a no brainer considering the person that was acquired.

Ainge and his minions went to great lengths a month ago to tell the world how the team “looked into” Harden and ultimately passed and felt he wasn’t a good fit.

Where was that with Kyrie? So what you’re telling me is, Ainge didn’t do his due diligence and made a move any arm chair NBA 2K My Career player would’ve made?

Sounds like your making an excuse for bad GMing.

To be fair, Kyrie cost pennies compared to Harden. The fanbase was, as it always is, thrashing Ainge to stop "hoarding his assets" and make a move. If he had passed on a player of Kyrie's caliber for a package of which the only value of actual consequence was the #8 pick, he would have been eviscerated (by many of the same people who are eviscerating him now for having made the move).

And, I'm at the front of the "We'd be way better off if we'd kept Rozier and that #8 over Kemba and Kyrie" bandwagon - I told Cavs fans at the time I was calling their bluff and was perfectly fine with them voiding the trade, and meant it. But, as a value proposition, no GM in the league turns that deal down.

Honestly wish the Cavs had just voided it. We would have gotten clowned in the media and other fanbases, and by many in our own fanbase, but it clearly would have worked out better for us in the long haul.