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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#881 » by suns12345 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:01 am

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bwgood77 wrote:Oubre may have had his best game as a Warrior last night. 23, 8, 3, 2, 60% from the field and 4-7 from 3.


did he have 40+ the other day?


Oh, I guess so...was 7-10 from 3 in that one with 8 boards as well. This was probably his second best, though he had another one with similar #s.


He's not a bad player, and I always thought he'd come good for the W's and his start was an aberration.

But i'm not upset he's gone because I don't think he is worth what we would have had to pay him, in relation to winning.
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Post#882 » by suns12345 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:04 am

bwgood77 wrote:Blowing our lead sucked the other night, but I don't feel quite as bad losing to Brooklyn and knowing we were dominating them early, given they are beating the Lakers by 20 right now. Kyrie is playing but he is 4-12 and 0-5 from 3 with 3 turnovers so he's not exactly helping them.


It always sucks looking at bad losses in isolation and you question the team you have etc. especially because of the history of the suns recently.

But NBA seasons are long, and you see with the bucks 5 game losing streak, all good teams go through adversity, or lose to bad teams, or waste a game. I guess you just got to hope it doesnt come back to bite you later in the season and minimise the impacts.
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Post#883 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:51 pm

Anyone check out nbatopshot.com? It's been in the news with some dude buying a Zion 'moment' for 100k. It's basically virtual basketball cards with a gif instead of a picture ran on a blockchain.

It's still in beta so site has maintenance cycles that are annoying. NBA licenced and some players like Dinwiddie and Igudala are investors and cuban has been talking it up. Silly fad or something that could take off? Who knows at this point. I was intrigued so a couple days ago I started dabbling buying guys like Booker, Giannis, Ja, Tatum all for under $20. The Ja is currently selling for over $75 but I'm just going to ride it for a bit.

Have at admit it's kind of fun so maybe it has legs especially if they start cranking out advertising once it's out of beta phase is done. Now I grew up collecting sports cards so I'm probably square in the demo that would find this to be cool, we'll see if it has general public appeal. I'm going to ride it out and only spend as much as a care to lose if it went to 0 but it's certainly an interesting deal. Curious if anyone else gave it a spin yet?

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Post#884 » by bwgood77 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:44 pm

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Revived wrote:Yeah they had Porzingis back but had like 5 of their top 7 players. Hardaway, Richardson, DFS, Kleber and Brunson didn’t play.

LeBron probably has really strong case for MVP but I think media fatigue will play a factor for guys like him and Giannis.


LeBron hasn't won since 2013 so it's been awhile. KD, Curry twice, Westbrook, Harden, Giannis twice

I wouldn't be that surprised if after Giannis won a couple recently and LeBron rolling to a championship last year, that if LeBron has another great season and they are the 1 seed or close, he gets it again.


It'll be hard for Lebron to win, when he also has another guy on his team likely to steal votes from him in AD.

If anything, just Luka being fresh, exciting and always a good story will give him the leg up if his performances is MVP level.


Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

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Post#885 » by bwgood77 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:50 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Anyone check out nbatopshot.com? It's been in the news with some dude buying a Zion 'moment' for 100k. It's basically virtual basketball cards with a gif instead of a picture ran on a blockchain.

It's still in beta so site has maintenance cycles that are annoying. NBA licenced and some players like Dinwiddie and Igudala are investors and cuban has been talking it up. Silly fad or something that could take off? Who knows at this point. I was intrigued so a couple days ago I started dabbling buying guys like Booker, Giannis, Ja, Tatum all for under $20. The Ja is currently selling for over $75 but I'm just going to ride it for a bit.

Have at admit it's kind of fun so maybe it has legs especially if they start cranking out advertising once it's out of beta phase is done. Now I grew up collecting sports cards so I'm probably square in the demo that would find this to be cool, we'll see if it has general public appeal. I'm going to ride it out and only spend as much as a care to lose if it went to 0 but it's certainly an interesting deal. Curious if anyone else gave it a spin yet?

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I hadn't heard of it. But after browsing, trying to decide if I want to buy this one..

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+de32d3fb-0e6a-447e-b42a-08bbf1607b7d
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#886 » by bhawk » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Anyone check out nbatopshot.com? It's been in the news with some dude buying a Zion 'moment' for 100k. It's basically virtual basketball cards with a gif instead of a picture ran on a blockchain.

It's still in beta so site has maintenance cycles that are annoying. NBA licenced and some players like Dinwiddie and Igudala are investors and cuban has been talking it up. Silly fad or something that could take off? Who knows at this point. I was intrigued so a couple days ago I started dabbling buying guys like Booker, Giannis, Ja, Tatum all for under $20. The Ja is currently selling for over $75 but I'm just going to ride it for a bit.

Have at admit it's kind of fun so maybe it has legs especially if they start cranking out advertising once it's out of beta phase is done. Now I grew up collecting sports cards so I'm probably square in the demo that would find this to be cool, we'll see if it has general public appeal. I'm going to ride it out and only spend as much as a care to lose if it went to 0 but it's certainly an interesting deal. Curious if anyone else gave it a spin yet?

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I hadn't heard of it. But after browsing, trying to decide if I want to buy this one..

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+de32d3fb-0e6a-447e-b42a-08bbf1607b7d


Think I'll buy ALL of them and corner the market! 200K come on.
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Post#887 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:15 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Anyone check out nbatopshot.com? It's been in the news with some dude buying a Zion 'moment' for 100k. It's basically virtual basketball cards with a gif instead of a picture ran on a blockchain.

It's still in beta so site has maintenance cycles that are annoying. NBA licenced and some players like Dinwiddie and Igudala are investors and cuban has been talking it up. Silly fad or something that could take off? Who knows at this point. I was intrigued so a couple days ago I started dabbling buying guys like Booker, Giannis, Ja, Tatum all for under $20. The Ja is currently selling for over $75 but I'm just going to ride it for a bit.

Have at admit it's kind of fun so maybe it has legs especially if they start cranking out advertising once it's out of beta phase is done. Now I grew up collecting sports cards so I'm probably square in the demo that would find this to be cool, we'll see if it has general public appeal. I'm going to ride it out and only spend as much as a care to lose if it went to 0 but it's certainly an interesting deal. Curious if anyone else gave it a spin yet?

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I hadn't heard of it. But after browsing, trying to decide if I want to buy this one..

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+de32d3fb-0e6a-447e-b42a-08bbf1607b7d
Who doesn't have a couple hundred K laying around to speculate :)

If you are actually wanting to give it a run I'd sign up for an alert and try to get a pack when they drop. Other things I've learned the last couple days is go with the stars, my Ja, Booker, Giannis, and Tatum moments have spiked up, basically to the point I could sell one and recoup all I put in so far (now from what I'm reading getting through the KYC process to get paid takes forever so don't expect a quick buck).

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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#888 » by bwgood77 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:32 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Anyone check out nbatopshot.com? It's been in the news with some dude buying a Zion 'moment' for 100k. It's basically virtual basketball cards with a gif instead of a picture ran on a blockchain.

It's still in beta so site has maintenance cycles that are annoying. NBA licenced and some players like Dinwiddie and Igudala are investors and cuban has been talking it up. Silly fad or something that could take off? Who knows at this point. I was intrigued so a couple days ago I started dabbling buying guys like Booker, Giannis, Ja, Tatum all for under $20. The Ja is currently selling for over $75 but I'm just going to ride it for a bit.

Have at admit it's kind of fun so maybe it has legs especially if they start cranking out advertising once it's out of beta phase is done. Now I grew up collecting sports cards so I'm probably square in the demo that would find this to be cool, we'll see if it has general public appeal. I'm going to ride it out and only spend as much as a care to lose if it went to 0 but it's certainly an interesting deal. Curious if anyone else gave it a spin yet?

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I hadn't heard of it. But after browsing, trying to decide if I want to buy this one..

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+de32d3fb-0e6a-447e-b42a-08bbf1607b7d
Who doesn't have a couple hundred K laying around to speculate :)

If you are actually wanting to give it a run I'd sign up for an alert and try to get a pack when they drop. Other things I've learned the last couple days is go with the stars, my Ja, Booker, Giannis, and Tatum moments have spiked up, basically to the point I could sell one and recoup all I put in so far (now from what I'm reading getting through the KYC process to get paid takes forever so don't expect a quick buck).

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I can't believe this is the highest priced Booker one. https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+a9dc398e-c76e-4c8f-ac52-b999222d4110
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#889 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:01 am

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I hadn't heard of it. But after browsing, trying to decide if I want to buy this one..

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+de32d3fb-0e6a-447e-b42a-08bbf1607b7d
Who doesn't have a couple hundred K laying around to speculate :)

If you are actually wanting to give it a run I'd sign up for an alert and try to get a pack when they drop. Other things I've learned the last couple days is go with the stars, my Ja, Booker, Giannis, and Tatum moments have spiked up, basically to the point I could sell one and recoup all I put in so far (now from what I'm reading getting through the KYC process to get paid takes forever so don't expect a quick buck).

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I can't believe this is the highest priced Booker one. https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/p2p/c561f66b-5bd8-451c-8686-156073c3fb69+a9dc398e-c76e-4c8f-ac52-b999222d4110
It's all about scaricty on the pricing. They just announced they are closing out the mints of the current series 2 and when series 3 hits it will be higher volumes because of high demand. Series 2 prices spiking and site crashed (it's beta and definitely hickups). Was a nice bone they threw to the early adaptors because all the current moments will far more scarce than everything moving forward.

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Post#890 » by lilfishi22 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:49 am

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LeBron hasn't won since 2013 so it's been awhile. KD, Curry twice, Westbrook, Harden, Giannis twice

I wouldn't be that surprised if after Giannis won a couple recently and LeBron rolling to a championship last year, that if LeBron has another great season and they are the 1 seed or close, he gets it again.


It'll be hard for Lebron to win, when he also has another guy on his team likely to steal votes from him in AD.

If anything, just Luka being fresh, exciting and always a good story will give him the leg up if his performances is MVP level.


Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

Read on Twitter

Luka hasn't played well this season so that narrative is gone down the drain.
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Post#891 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:09 am

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It'll be hard for Lebron to win, when he also has another guy on his team likely to steal votes from him in AD.

If anything, just Luka being fresh, exciting and always a good story will give him the leg up if his performances is MVP level.


Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

Read on Twitter

Luka hasn't played well this season so that narrative is gone down the drain.


Not sure how you can say that. He's averaging career highs of over 29 PPG and 9.4 APG along with 8.6 RPG. I doubt there has been a player in a very long time, if ever, that averaged 29/9.4, much less with the rebounds. LeBron has never done it. He's actually only averaged more PPG than that in 1 year (07-08), more APG than that in 1 year (last year), and never more RPG (but matched it a couple times).

Luka is also shooting a career high in 3pt% and TS%.

Now his team isn't doing as well as last year but they had most of their starters out for a couple weeks and KP out for most of the season.

I certainly wouldn't say he isn't playing well.

What makes you say that?
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Post#892 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:20 am

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Post#893 » by Revived » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:29 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
LeBron hasn't won since 2013 so it's been awhile. KD, Curry twice, Westbrook, Harden, Giannis twice

I wouldn't be that surprised if after Giannis won a couple recently and LeBron rolling to a championship last year, that if LeBron has another great season and they are the 1 seed or close, he gets it again.


It'll be hard for Lebron to win, when he also has another guy on his team likely to steal votes from him in AD.

If anything, just Luka being fresh, exciting and always a good story will give him the leg up if his performances is MVP level.


Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

Read on Twitter

If I had to pick an MVP right now, it’d be Damian Lillard. What he’s doing with that Portland team missing it’s 2nd and 3rd best players in McCollum and Nurkic is just ridiculous. They were missing another starter DJJ and other guys for a stretch as well.

It’s sickening that he wasn’t voted in as a starter for the ASG, he absolutely deserved it over Doncic.
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Post#894 » by lilfishi22 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:58 am

bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

Read on Twitter

Luka hasn't played well this season so that narrative is gone down the drain.


Not sure how you can say that. He's averaging career highs of over 29 PPG and 9.4 APG along with 8.6 RPG. I doubt there has been a player in a very long time, if ever, that averaged 29/9.4, much less with the rebounds. LeBron has never done it. He's actually only averaged more PPG than that in 1 year (07-08), more APG than that in 1 year (last year), and never more RPG (but matched it a couple times).

Luka is also shooting a career high in 3pt% and TS%.

Now his team isn't doing as well as last year but they had most of their starters out for a couple weeks and KP out for most of the season.

I certainly wouldn't say he isn't playing well.

What makes you say that?

I should correct myself. The Mavs haven't been good. Luka individually have been a bit better but the Mavs for all sorts of reasons aren't good.

My prediction was based entirely on Luka being better than last season and the Mavs being good too. The MVP race more often than not is often based on a good story and bring the best guy on the best team. My thought was that Luka is easily the best guy on his team, I thought the Mavs would be be at least as good as last year if not better and I thought Luka would carry those MVP votes from last season.

I did underestimate how much the media would play up the year 16 (or whatever year) of LeBron's career so you were right on this one
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Post#895 » by Revived » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:50 pm

Kelly Oubre averaging 19 pts, 6 rebounds and 2 assists on 48% shooting from the field and 45% (!) shooting from 3.

Much like I had thought, he hadn’t rehabbed from his meniscus surgery completely and basically needed some time to recover. Looks like he’s there now. Good for him.
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Post#897 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:12 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
It'll be hard for Lebron to win, when he also has another guy on his team likely to steal votes from him in AD.

If anything, just Luka being fresh, exciting and always a good story will give him the leg up if his performances is MVP level.


Looks like as of a little over a week ago, the media (at least ESPN media) voted LeBron so far..

Read on Twitter

If I had to pick an MVP right now, it’d be Damian Lillard. What he’s doing with that Portland team missing it’s 2nd and 3rd best players in McCollum and Nurkic is just ridiculous. They were missing another starter DJJ and other guys for a stretch as well.

It’s sickening that he wasn’t voted in as a starter for the ASG, he absolutely deserved it over Doncic.


Yeah, I was actually thinking the same last night. I think he should actually be a no brainer.
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Post#898 » by wheezy » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:54 pm

From Lowe's latest 10 things post:

Spoiler:
3. The quirks of Devin Booker's playmaking
Booker's assists have dropped, but isolate his minutes without Chris Paul and those numbers normalize. The Phoenix Suns have won Booker-only minutes by 11.5 points per 100 possessions -- a big arrow in Booker's All-Star quiver. (There are going to be brutal omissions in the West, but at least one Phoenix guard should get in given their record and how little difference there is otherwise between a dozen-ish candidates for the final spots.)

Booker dots his playmaking with unusual tics of style and cadence. Those quirks keep defenses off-balance without confusing Booker's teammates.


That hard spin-back is snazzy. Booker then baits the double -- and drags Patrick Beverley into help duty on Deandre Ayton -- with a languid backward dribble before slicing into a crossover. He looks like he's about to accelerate before pulling up, glancing at Mikal Bridges in the left corner -- freezing Beverley for a precious half-second -- and zipping a laser to Ayton.


Dribbling toward corner shooters can sometimes snuff openings by bringing the defense toward them. Not here. Booker proceeds slowly, eyes darting, sowing uncertainty in the LA Clippers' defense and watching for cracks to open. He waits for Bridges to cut inside, taking one last defender with him -- and unlocking that Jae Crowder triple.


Booker makes every potential option a threat here, including his silky midrange jumper. (Some smart internet person should produce one of those side-by-side mirror image videos of Booker and Paul snaking for right elbow pull-ups.)

The Pacers don't know which to react to -- until Booker appears to make the decision for them by rising up. Even as the Pacers swarm, that shot is still pretty open. By doing good work early, Booker gives himself choices in mid-air.

After a first dozen or so games that probably fell below expectations following Booker's bubble explosion, he is continuing his ascent to All-NBA-level stardom -- regardless of whether he makes All-Star.
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Post#899 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:18 pm

wheezy wrote:From Lowe's latest 10 things post:

Spoiler:
3. The quirks of Devin Booker's playmaking
Booker's assists have dropped, but isolate his minutes without Chris Paul and those numbers normalize. The Phoenix Suns have won Booker-only minutes by 11.5 points per 100 possessions -- a big arrow in Booker's All-Star quiver. (There are going to be brutal omissions in the West, but at least one Phoenix guard should get in given their record and how little difference there is otherwise between a dozen-ish candidates for the final spots.)

Booker dots his playmaking with unusual tics of style and cadence. Those quirks keep defenses off-balance without confusing Booker's teammates.


That hard spin-back is snazzy. Booker then baits the double -- and drags Patrick Beverley into help duty on Deandre Ayton -- with a languid backward dribble before slicing into a crossover. He looks like he's about to accelerate before pulling up, glancing at Mikal Bridges in the left corner -- freezing Beverley for a precious half-second -- and zipping a laser to Ayton.


Dribbling toward corner shooters can sometimes snuff openings by bringing the defense toward them. Not here. Booker proceeds slowly, eyes darting, sowing uncertainty in the LA Clippers' defense and watching for cracks to open. He waits for Bridges to cut inside, taking one last defender with him -- and unlocking that Jae Crowder triple.


Booker makes every potential option a threat here, including his silky midrange jumper. (Some smart internet person should produce one of those side-by-side mirror image videos of Booker and Paul snaking for right elbow pull-ups.)

The Pacers don't know which to react to -- until Booker appears to make the decision for them by rising up. Even as the Pacers swarm, that shot is still pretty open. By doing good work early, Booker gives himself choices in mid-air.

After a first dozen or so games that probably fell below expectations following Booker's bubble explosion, he is continuing his ascent to All-NBA-level stardom -- regardless of whether he makes All-Star.


These writeups are a lot more meaningful when you have the clips to go along with him explaining them. I'm glad I got ESPN+, not just for the G league games but for these too.
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Post#900 » by wheezy » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:45 am

bwgood77 wrote:
wheezy wrote:From Lowe's latest 10 things post:

Spoiler:
3. The quirks of Devin Booker's playmaking
Booker's assists have dropped, but isolate his minutes without Chris Paul and those numbers normalize. The Phoenix Suns have won Booker-only minutes by 11.5 points per 100 possessions -- a big arrow in Booker's All-Star quiver. (There are going to be brutal omissions in the West, but at least one Phoenix guard should get in given their record and how little difference there is otherwise between a dozen-ish candidates for the final spots.)

Booker dots his playmaking with unusual tics of style and cadence. Those quirks keep defenses off-balance without confusing Booker's teammates.


That hard spin-back is snazzy. Booker then baits the double -- and drags Patrick Beverley into help duty on Deandre Ayton -- with a languid backward dribble before slicing into a crossover. He looks like he's about to accelerate before pulling up, glancing at Mikal Bridges in the left corner -- freezing Beverley for a precious half-second -- and zipping a laser to Ayton.


Dribbling toward corner shooters can sometimes snuff openings by bringing the defense toward them. Not here. Booker proceeds slowly, eyes darting, sowing uncertainty in the LA Clippers' defense and watching for cracks to open. He waits for Bridges to cut inside, taking one last defender with him -- and unlocking that Jae Crowder triple.


Booker makes every potential option a threat here, including his silky midrange jumper. (Some smart internet person should produce one of those side-by-side mirror image videos of Booker and Paul snaking for right elbow pull-ups.)

The Pacers don't know which to react to -- until Booker appears to make the decision for them by rising up. Even as the Pacers swarm, that shot is still pretty open. By doing good work early, Booker gives himself choices in mid-air.

After a first dozen or so games that probably fell below expectations following Booker's bubble explosion, he is continuing his ascent to All-NBA-level stardom -- regardless of whether he makes All-Star.


These writeups are a lot more meaningful when you have the clips to go along with him explaining them. I'm glad I got ESPN+, not just for the G league games but for these too.

Wasn't sure if the links for the mp4's would work but I can try to add them. Thought the last line was still interesting.

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