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Lavine
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Smaller moves around the edges
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Post#1161 » by Dnt hate » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:19 am

Stanford wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:I don't think they're gonna cut anyone until the deadline. The ability to use these guys as fillers in trades is just more valuable than some marginal upgrade at a backup spot for a few weeks.


Yeah, ultimately I agree with this. And everyone seems to like having Dwight around.

If the Lakers can have Dwight Boogie and Mcgee, why can't we have 2 of the 3, depending on matchup we can play either or especially playoffs
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Post#1162 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:19 am

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Could this be Ben's stretch 5?


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Post#1163 » by Sixerscan » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:22 am

Dnt hate wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:I don't think they're gonna cut anyone until the deadline. The ability to use these guys as fillers in trades is just more valuable than some marginal upgrade at a backup spot for a few weeks.


Yeah, ultimately I agree with this. And everyone seems to like having Dwight around.

If the Lakers can have Dwight Boogie and Mcgee, why can't we have 2 of the 3, depending on matchup we can play either or especially playoffs

I think they signed Dwight after Boogie got hurt? Either way they could sign someone like Boogie I just don't think they will do it before the trade deadline.
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Post#1164 » by SparksFly87 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:22 am

Danny GREEN, MIKE Scott ,Korkmaz , Bradley and 1st rd pick for Houston sends us PJ Tucker and Victor Olidipo.

JoJo/ Howard
Tobi/ Tucker
Simmons / Thybulle
Olidipo / Shake / Joe
Curry/ Maxey

Ferguson and Porier dumped.
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Post#1165 » by Tomjas » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:09 am

SparksFly87 wrote:Danny GREEN, MIKE Scott ,Korkmaz , Bradley and 1st rd pick for Houston sends us PJ Tucker and Victor Olidipo.

JoJo/ Howard
Tobi/ Tucker
Simmons / Thybulle
Olidipo / Shake / Joe
Curry/ Maxey

Ferguson and Porier dumped.


I would do that and pick might tempt Rockets

People will complain about pick but IF YOU WANT TO WIN, you need to give up something
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Post#1166 » by Dnt hate » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:37 am

Tomjas wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:Danny GREEN, MIKE Scott ,Korkmaz , Bradley and 1st rd pick for Houston sends us PJ Tucker and Victor Olidipo.

JoJo/ Howard
Tobi/ Tucker
Simmons / Thybulle
Olidipo / Shake / Joe
Curry/ Maxey

Ferguson and Porier dumped.


I would do that and pick might tempt Rockets

People will complain about pick but IF YOU WANT TO WIN, you need to give up something

Ofcourse we'd do that, Houston would not
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Post#1167 » by DCasey91 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:58 am

I actually wouldn’t mind Cousins at all. We have way too many wings list fodder anyway. And most won’t have the opportunity to develop.
We’re ready to contend anyway so I wouldn’t mind.

Play Boogie as a backup version of Embiid and let the offense funnel through him. He’s always had a good scoring rate/passing game (though overrated). Even though it maybe average that’s still a fine upgrade for our bench lol. I’ll take any kind of offense these days.

Prime Embiid + Discount Embiid (Cousins) I love it.
Let’s get Jason Kidd (Ball)

All we have to find now is our outside stud and we good to go.

Rondo
Kuzma
KCP
Davis
James

as a team they were just too big for everybody. We are definitely kind of like that. On paper it doesn’t look like an top 3 3pt shooting team. Didn’t have too. Can definitely play bully ball with that lineup

?? (I feel like we need an upgrade there Ball?!!, Curry as a sixth man)
Green (Can be moved if need be, if Ball is coming then Green is going).
Harris
Simmons
Embiid

That’s one huge reason if we do vs the Nets our size will cause them huge issues. So capitalize on that.

If we’re not in with a chance to get that star outside threat. Then I’d want to bolster our 9 man playoff rotation as strongly as possible provided it doesn’t cost too much then sure you can join.
Offensive minded players over defensive players for now (we have plenty of those so we are sweet there. Good legit two players are always welcomed for any team).
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Post#1168 » by Wilfried » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:04 am

Boogie playing 10-15 minutes of bully pf/center and giving Joel and extra 5 minutes of rest during every game. Ok for me

But pretty sure he's going to Lakers/Clippers
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Post#1169 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:15 pm

Tomjas wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:Danny GREEN, MIKE Scott ,Korkmaz , Bradley and 1st rd pick for Houston sends us PJ Tucker and Victor Olidipo.

JoJo/ Howard
Tobi/ Tucker
Simmons / Thybulle
Olidipo / Shake / Joe
Curry/ Maxey

Ferguson and Porier dumped.


I would do that and pick might tempt Rockets

People will complain about pick but IF YOU WANT TO WIN, you need to give up something

P.J. Tucker absolutely sucks and is cooked beyond belief. He'll be 36 years old in a few months. Oladipo is a shell of himself on both ends, has continuously been hurt (even now) and would be a rental. I don't like the trade.
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Post#1170 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:37 pm

Zero interest in PJ Tucker even if he were free there will be better options
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Post#1171 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:48 pm

Wilfried wrote:Boogie playing 10-15 minutes of bully pf/center and giving Joel and extra 5 minutes of rest during every game. Ok for me

But pretty sure he's going to Lakers/Clippers


He has looked completely cooked. I don't really have much interest I don't think there is any upside left in that body because its been three years since he's played at a high level so at this point you sort have to say he is what he is

With that being said he'll likely be better then Scott but if there is a choice to either trade for or get someone else on a buyout I'd prefer to go in another direction
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Post#1172 » by Embiid-MVP » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:44 pm

Do we even have the room to add 4 players?

JJ reddick from a buyout
Lonzo Ball trade
Cousins FA
And ? Our do it all guy

That would a an awesome bunch to get but do we have the room?
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Post#1173 » by Wilfried » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:46 pm

Bjelica should be our main target (via trade) atm
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Post#1174 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:20 pm

Wilfried wrote:Bjelica should be our main target (via trade) atm

Why, though?

32 years old
defensive sieve
can't rebound
shooting 26% from three...the only thing he's supposed to be good at.

IMO, Bjelica sucks.....and went back on his word ontop of that. He's a fraud! Lol i'm still salty about that.
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Post#1175 » by DCasey91 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:28 pm

Our bench is going to cause us a lot of trouble in the Playoffs.

Curry
Green
Simmons
Harris
Embiid

Bench:
Milton
Thybulle
Howard

We only have an 8 man rotation as it stands. Everyone else I believe is a wash. Having two big net negatives on offense coming of the bench only compounds it’s weakness and the team’s as well.
Our defense is fine. Besides I have a preference over production vs potentially what they are supposed to be.

If the Bulls can trot out a nice bench unit (White/Sato/Markannenn etc.) I see no reason for us to do the same. I thought by now we’d have at least an acceptable bench unit.

We are extremely thin if something happens to Embiid/Simmons. Everyone on the team has a huge dependency on both. I’d target a player that doesn’t have that type of big dependency.

Next year I wish it would look like this:

Ball/Hill/Dragic (starting pg)
Mccollum/Lavine/Oli/Beasley (outside threat)
3&D
Simmons
Embiid

Bench:
Curry (Curry as the sixth man role)
Milton
Thybulle
Bjelica type (stretch 4)
Dedmon type or a Cousine type (Center that can shoot or a bully ball center that can score, gets the opposition worn out because of capitalizing on our size).

That’s my setup and I’d be willing to trade any accumulated assets to do it provided the deal is fair.
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Post#1176 » by zaz102 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:32 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Wilfried wrote:Bjelica should be our main target (via trade) atm

Why, though?

32 years old
defensive sieve
can't rebound
shooting 26% from three...the only thing he's supposed to be good at.

IMO, Bjelica sucks.....and went back on his word ontop of that. He's a fraud! Lol i'm still salty about that.
I know I would be happy with Bjelica as a stretch 5 (and he can play the 4). However, I don't think he should be a main target. More like a realistic cheaper target if other options fall through.
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Post#1177 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:39 pm

Dnt hate wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:Danny GREEN, MIKE Scott ,Korkmaz , Bradley and 1st rd pick for Houston sends us PJ Tucker and Victor Olidipo.

JoJo/ Howard
Tobi/ Tucker
Simmons / Thybulle
Olidipo / Shake / Joe
Curry/ Maxey

Ferguson and Porier dumped.


I would do that and pick might tempt Rockets

People will complain about pick but IF YOU WANT TO WIN, you need to give up something

Ofcourse we'd do that, Houston would not

Add two more picks if necessary. That looks like a chip
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Post#1178 » by Tomjas » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:02 pm

Watching Pelicans and no doubt that Ball could be very good for us
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Post#1179 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:04 pm

Ball would be fascinating in bench units with Ben and shooters. Do we know what the price tag is on him?

What do we make of the fact that his DBPM has fallen each year and now says he's a negative defender?
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Post#1180 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:10 pm

Stanford wrote:Ball would be fascinating in bench units with Ben and shooters. Do we know what the price tag is on him?

What do we make of the fact that his DBPM has fallen each year and now says he's a negative defender?


We need them to lose more, tbh. If they sneak into the playoffs, they'll see him as a key piece moving forward.

He would fit perfectly with us, imo.

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