"Around the NBA": 2020-21 Season Thread

[GTR11]

Jarrett Allen goes off on Collin Sexton: “Don’t **** talk to me that way”

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Damn. Never seen him that pissed off.

Yeah, that kind of fire could help drive him to the next level though. I hope he gets off the Cavs but doubt it'll happen given his RFA status... Still one of my favorite players in the league.

Centers usually be mouth and run D since they control painted area. Allens lack of knowledge of personal showed here.


First, you don't play Dray tight, you give him space and dare him to shoot. If he takes shot you contest without fouling. Dray always looks to pass and drive kick out.

Second, Sexton is in a wrong here. You always stop the ball first than recover or switch. He'd be benched if some D coach like Thibs seen crap like that. I get the fact its Steph but you always trap ball first and force TO than live with the result. Just tells me that Sexton IQ is below avg, that dumb mistake, its bball 101

[Prokorov]

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can we sticky this?

[Prokorov]

Watching the philly game. they are up but man, I still see that team as complete pretenders. Doc has improved them a bit but thats still a team with a tanking losing stench on them. Embiid playing great doesnt matter. vs bad teams that alone can beat you. but their pieces are such an awful fit. if it was a regular season they would probably be a 3-6 seed with the record they have now. they are kind of a 1 seed by default. its not like the jazz who have actually been winning at a great pace. I just cant see them beating the celtics, raps, pacers, or bucks in a series. and i wouldnt be surprised if someone like altanta or the knicks upset them/took them to 6+ games.

I think our biggest comp might end up being the raptors or heat. Tough teams that go deep with defenders that have playoff mettle. if boston could find a bigman id add them but as of now they are just hot trash

also, Lavine is a STUD. hope he goes somewhere that matters.

[Stone]

Embidd had a monster game but the bulls were in it until about a minute left. RJ and Rucco called the game.

Looking forward to the Jazz - Clippers game

[GTR11]

Watching the philly game. they are up but man, I still see that team as complete pretenders. Doc has improved them a bit but thats still a team with a tanking losing stench on them. Embiid playing great doesnt matter. vs bad teams that alone can beat you. but their pieces are such an awful fit. if it was a regular season they would probably be a 3-6 seed with the record they have now. they are kind of a 1 seed by default. its not like the jazz who have actually been winning at a great pace. I just cant see them beating the celtics, raps, pacers, or bucks in a series. and i wouldnt be surprised if someone like altanta or the knicks upset them/took them to 6+ games.

I think our biggest comp might end up being the raptors or heat. Tough teams that go deep with defenders that have playoff mettle. if boston could find a bigman id add them but as of now they are just hot trash

also, Lavine is a STUD. hope he goes somewhere that matters.

There is is NOT ONE TEAM OUT THERE THAT CAN MATCH UP WITH US and hold their own. I mean I'm not sure how in the hell we got James freaking Harden ( God damn MVP ) for what we gave up. That just broke the scale. You know I know every one knows that talent wins in this league. We just loaded with top talent and Joe, Jeff, DJ ( yes I said it, just watch him ones its money time ) and few others provide production. I mean look at the Saltics, 6's and TrashTors, their depth is trash compared to ours right now. Yes out top 3 make them look better but they can start on most teams. Dinwiddie can start, Joe, Jeff did, DJ top 5 back up, Shamet coming around etc. We deep.
I will call you out for calling my pet cat Nic trash. My boy is on his way.

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

[Born_Ready]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

I thought the exact same thing then quickly remember Cousins remarks about James prior to his departure.

[Prokorov]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

I dont like the fit. he is basically just a jump shooter at this point. 60% of his FGs are from three. he doesnt move on either end like he used to. to me it is similar to the blake situation. he is more a PF then a C defensively and strictly a stretch player on offense at this point.

and i mean i love cousins, id take him over the junk we have now, but to me id still rather have McGee or dedmon

[therealbig3]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

I dont like the fit. he is basically just a jump shooter at this point. 60% of his FGs are from three. he doesnt move on either end like he used to. to me it is similar to the blake situation. he is more a PF then a C defensively and strictly a stretch player on offense at this point.

and i mean i love cousins, id take him over the junk we have now, but to me id still rather have McGee or dedmon

Wouldn't be for offense, would be for defense and rebounding, which he can still do decent enough.

I would take him over any of the other buyout candidates, but yeah, the bad blood between him and Harden would be the major factor preventing it.

[Prokorov]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

I dont like the fit. he is basically just a jump shooter at this point. 60% of his FGs are from three. he doesnt move on either end like he used to. to me it is similar to the blake situation. he is more a PF then a C defensively and strictly a stretch player on offense at this point.

and i mean i love cousins, id take him over the junk we have now, but to me id still rather have McGee or dedmon

Wouldn't be for offense, would be for defense and rebounding, which he can still do decent enough.

I would take him over any of the other buyout candidates, but yeah, the bad blood between him and Harden would be the major factor preventing it.

i dont think the harden bad blood factors in. boogie wants to win. he'd squash that im sure.

but defensively he is not any better then what we have now with DJ/Green. id easily take mcgee, dedmon, or even RHJ over him

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

I dont like the fit. he is basically just a jump shooter at this point. 60% of his FGs are from three. he doesnt move on either end like he used to. to me it is similar to the blake situation. he is more a PF then a C defensively and strictly a stretch player on offense at this point.

and i mean i love cousins, id take him over the junk we have now, but to me id still rather have McGee or dedmon

The fact that his shot blocking is non existent now is also a red flag

[Prokorov]

Kemba: My teammates need to play harder

also Kemba: 1-12 from three and abused every possesion on D in a loss after blowing a 24 point lead.

morons called Kemba an upgrade from kyrie/better fit. do they even have a winning record?

wont be long before Brown/Tatum ask out of town. only thing keeping brown there is he is so active trying to improve the racism there.

[MrDollarBills]

Kemba: My teammates need to play harder

also Kemba: 1-12 from three and abused every possesion on D in a loss after blowing a 24 point lead.

morons called Kemba an upgrade from kyrie/better fit. do they even have a winning record?

wont be long before Brown/Tatum ask out of town. only thing keeping brown there is he is so active trying to improve the racism there.

Meanwhile, Nets are .5 games out of the #1 seed in the East, on a 6 game sweep of the Western conference with wins over both the LA clubs, and Kyrie is starting in the all star game.

The tables haven't just been turned, they've been violently flipped over.

[Prokorov]

Kemba: My teammates need to play harder

also Kemba: 1-12 from three and abused every possesion on D in a loss after blowing a 24 point lead.

morons called Kemba an upgrade from kyrie/better fit. do they even have a winning record?

wont be long before Brown/Tatum ask out of town. only thing keeping brown there is he is so active trying to improve the racism there.

Meanwhile, Nets are .5 games out of the #1 seed in the East, on a 6 game sweep of the Western conference with wins over both the LA clubs, and Kyrie is starting in the all star game.

The tables haven't just been turned, they've been violently flipped over.

Yup. now all of a sudden people are trashing ainge and brad stevens. funny how that happens right? it was easier to call Kyrie a cancer (despite being a winner in HS/FIBA/NBA) then to admit roster issues, a coach who couldnt properly check guys into their roles and an immature roster at the time.

Ainge really has done a TRASh job. I mean people talk about our bench/depth but the celtics really have NOTHING after Tatum/Brown/Smart and a declining kemba. I mean their bench is:

Ojele, Thompson, Prtichard, Langord, Neismith, Teague. old retreads and busted non-lotto firsts and a second round dirt dog (Love pritchard, good pick, wanted him here).

I mean ainge had TONS of extra firsts. lotto, teens, late. He couldnt draft role guys or trade them for role guys. Props to him for hitting homeruns in the top 3, but really, he had a TON of picks to build a bench and he wiffed time after time after time. The depth they should have had either walked out the door (Heyward/Horford) or He panic traded (Rozier) or mismanaged cap casualties (Baynes). This is on top of losing an in-prime top-10 player in kyrie for nothng (same for horford and turner). He also turned down Myles turner for Heyward for some idiotic reason when they desperately need a big.

For stevens its almost worse. He had an elite mix of in prime talents, vets, and young stars and couldnt make it work. he couldnt get his young stars to check egos or his vets to work with them (and not just kyrie... horford/heyward also). he allowed a vets vs. rooks rift to happen, he never addressed it. he just kept his rah rah "lets get better everyday" nonsense fester. Problem is brad is a non-former NBA player college coach.... he never was going to tell the young kids to repect their elders. someone like pop or doc would have sat rozier/brown or whomever for 2 weeks even if they were dropping all-nba stats to humble them. and the sad part is tatum/brown/rozier are all good kids. hard workers. winning types. but you still can let them get too big for their britches at 20 years old when you have guys on the roster who have been through wars.

in either event, Ainge turner 2 young stars, 2 all-stars, 1 superstar, abd a mountain of picks into a treadmill team with no depth

awful.

[Casey_Jones]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

He will probably end up with the Lakers. We all know the media is trying to talk it into existence. Super annoying, but that's just the way it is. Get Lebron as much help as possible!

[Prokorov]

Looks like Boogie and Houston are parting ways. I would say we should pick him up but there was some bad blood in Houston when Harden left.

Damn.

He will probably end up with the Lakers. We all know the media is trying to talk it into existence. Super annoying, but that's just the way it is. Get Lebron as much help as possible!

I wouldnt call cousins "help". especially for a team that won last year with a ton of defensive size and AD at the 4 alot. cousins isnt a shotblocker. Dwight/McGee gave them that extra thing inside. It is the same reason i wouldnt want cousins here. if i need someone to chuck threes at the 5 and not block shots id rather it be jeff green

[MrDollarBills]

Kemba: My teammates need to play harder

also Kemba: 1-12 from three and abused every possesion on D in a loss after blowing a 24 point lead.

morons called Kemba an upgrade from kyrie/better fit. do they even have a winning record?

wont be long before Brown/Tatum ask out of town. only thing keeping brown there is he is so active trying to improve the racism there.

Meanwhile, Nets are .5 games out of the #1 seed in the East, on a 6 game sweep of the Western conference with wins over both the LA clubs, and Kyrie is starting in the all star game.

The tables haven't just been turned, they've been violently flipped over.

Yup. now all of a sudden people are trashing ainge and brad stevens. funny how that happens right? it was easier to call Kyrie a cancer (despite being a winner in HS/FIBA/NBA) then to admit roster issues, a coach who couldnt properly check guys into their roles and an immature roster at the time.

Ainge really has done a TRASh job. I mean people talk about our bench/depth but the celtics really have NOTHING after Tatum/Brown/Smart and a declining kemba. I mean their bench is:

Ojele, Thompson, Prtichard, Langord, Neismith, Teague. old retreads and busted non-lotto firsts and a second round dirt dog (Love pritchard, good pick, wanted him here).

I mean ainge had TONS of extra firsts. lotto, teens, late. He couldnt draft role guys or trade them for role guys. Props to him for hitting homeruns in the top 3, but really, he had a TON of picks to build a bench and he wiffed time after time after time. The depth they should have had either walked out the door (Heyward/Horford) or He panic traded (Rozier) or mismanaged cap casualties (Baynes). This is on top of losing an in-prime top-10 player in kyrie for nothng (same for horford and turner). He also turned down Myles turner for Heyward for some idiotic reason when they desperately need a big.

For stevens its almost worse. He had an elite mix of in prime talents, vets, and young stars and couldnt make it work. he couldnt get his young stars to check egos or his vets to work with them (and not just kyrie... horford/heyward also). he allowed a vets vs. rooks rift to happen, he never addressed it. he just kept his rah rah "lets get better everyday" nonsense fester. Problem is brad is a non-former NBA player college coach.... he never was going to tell the young kids to repect their elders. someone like pop or doc would have sat rozier/brown or whomever for 2 weeks even if they were dropping all-nba stats to humble them. and the sad part is tatum/brown/rozier are all good kids. hard workers. winning types. but you still can let them get too big for their britches at 20 years old when you have guys on the roster who have been through wars.

in either event, Ainge turner 2 young stars, 2 all-stars, 1 superstar, abd a mountain of picks into a treadmill team with no depth

awful.

One of the most damning things I've ever seen about that situation was when Morris and Brown got into that shoving match during a time out and Kyrie was standing there looking bewildered at the two of them like "are you guys serious right now?". It was a lot more going on there than the media leads people to believe.

Either way, Ainge has been arrogant for awhile now after living high off the hog from ripping off Billy King. Holding onto assets and trying to be greedy in deals has come back to haunt him. They had a chance to upgrade their talent pool significantly and he got caught bag holding multiple times.

[Prokorov]

Meanwhile, Nets are .5 games out of the #1 seed in the East, on a 6 game sweep of the Western conference with wins over both the LA clubs, and Kyrie is starting in the all star game.

The tables haven't just been turned, they've been violently flipped over.

Yup. now all of a sudden people are trashing ainge and brad stevens. funny how that happens right? it was easier to call Kyrie a cancer (despite being a winner in HS/FIBA/NBA) then to admit roster issues, a coach who couldnt properly check guys into their roles and an immature roster at the time.

Ainge really has done a TRASh job. I mean people talk about our bench/depth but the celtics really have NOTHING after Tatum/Brown/Smart and a declining kemba. I mean their bench is:

Ojele, Thompson, Prtichard, Langord, Neismith, Teague. old retreads and busted non-lotto firsts and a second round dirt dog (Love pritchard, good pick, wanted him here).

I mean ainge had TONS of extra firsts. lotto, teens, late. He couldnt draft role guys or trade them for role guys. Props to him for hitting homeruns in the top 3, but really, he had a TON of picks to build a bench and he wiffed time after time after time. The depth they should have had either walked out the door (Heyward/Horford) or He panic traded (Rozier) or mismanaged cap casualties (Baynes). This is on top of losing an in-prime top-10 player in kyrie for nothng (same for horford and turner). He also turned down Myles turner for Heyward for some idiotic reason when they desperately need a big.

For stevens its almost worse. He had an elite mix of in prime talents, vets, and young stars and couldnt make it work. he couldnt get his young stars to check egos or his vets to work with them (and not just kyrie... horford/heyward also). he allowed a vets vs. rooks rift to happen, he never addressed it. he just kept his rah rah "lets get better everyday" nonsense fester. Problem is brad is a non-former NBA player college coach.... he never was going to tell the young kids to repect their elders. someone like pop or doc would have sat rozier/brown or whomever for 2 weeks even if they were dropping all-nba stats to humble them. and the sad part is tatum/brown/rozier are all good kids. hard workers. winning types. but you still can let them get too big for their britches at 20 years old when you have guys on the roster who have been through wars.

in either event, Ainge turner 2 young stars, 2 all-stars, 1 superstar, abd a mountain of picks into a treadmill team with no depth

awful.

One of the most damning things I've ever seen about that situation was when Morris and Brown got into that shoving match during a time out and Kyrie was standing there looking bewildered at the two of them like "are you guys serious right now?". It was a lot more going on there than the media leads people to believe.

Either way, Ainge has been arrogant for awhile now after living high off the hog from ripping off Billy King. Holding onto assets and trying to be greedy in deals has come back to haunt him. They had a chance to upgrade their talent pool significantly and he got caught bag holding multiple times.

yup. they are super lucky they landed on both brown and tatum. otherwise it would be the worst situation in the NBA...

and yea. I mean:

Kyrie left when boston could pay he more then anyone
Horford opted out and left without considering boston
Heyward opted out and left without considering boston
morris left as an FA without considering boston

When your 4 well established vets all leave/opt out of huge deals to go elsewhere without considering you after making the ECF and being in a big-ish market something is seriously wrong beyond "Kyrie is a bad leader"

[GTR11]

Anyone who will say trade for Tucker I'll come at you. Guy been straight up trash. It's over for him, Ariza, Iggy and few others. God damn they look awful.

[GTR11]

Wizard, Craptors and Miami starting to hear up. I won't sleep on Bulls either. Ball and Hayward doing their thing. Those ATL fans ain't that cocky right now.