Raptors lose top assistant to Wolves

[Klomp]

I don't think people realize what a big deal it is for any assistant without any NBA HC under their belt is despite how awful the franchise maybe. If you are an assistant you don't have the luxury of picking and chosing your HC job unless you are a big name, it maybe the only HC shot someone may ever get.

Add in the fact of the Rosas/Finch relationship. Doesn't go back as far as Nurse/Finch, but still goes back a ways. Finch was a finalist here two years ago and would've likely been the guy if not Saunders then.

[Bankai]

Cmon this is mid season, at least give the Raptors a 2nd Round Pick for Finch.

[Klomp]

Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team in order to negotiate for their services.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q111

I believe "persuades in order to negotiate" is the key phrase. Minnesota was granted permission by the Raptors to talk to Finch. There was no persuasion or back-door communication involved.

[Los Manos]

I wish Chris Finch the best, he was deserving of a head coach seat in the league.

A 2nd rounder would have been nice just to let the league know there is a cost to approaching & hiring Raptors staff mid-season. However ultimately I'm not mad about it. Finch interviewed with Minnesota before they chose to go with Saunders and so he must have made an impression and just missed out. If they used a third party to reach out to his agent, Finch let the Raptors know of the interest and no barriers were put up by the Raptors to negotiate the move then this is all above board.

[Kevin Willis]

this poster lmaoo

Explain. Did I flame you in the past? I am looking forward to discussing it with you though.

Lmaoo this guy simping me on a private msg chill you're just cringey af

Wait I didn't ask you to join my conversation - why do you care so much? Why would you start something and back away from it - I am not like that.

Plus people that use terms like "simping", "cringey af" tend to be very young. Especially without explaining why - that's immature. It's obvious you were triggered however there are better ways to handle it. Even if you're young.

Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

[Crane08]

Explain. Did I flame you in the past? I am looking forward to discussing it with you though.

Lmaoo this guy simping me on a private msg chill you're just cringey af

Wait I didn't ask you to join my conversation - why do you care so much? Why would you start something and back away from it - I am not like that.

Plus people that use terms like "simping", "cringey af" tend to be very young. Especially without explaining why - that's immature. It's obvious you were triggered however there are better ways to handle it. Even if you're young.

Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

I can be mature if you want but don't act as you post like a mature person. There's no conversation if you're talking to yourself. Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

[Kevin Willis]

Lmaoo this guy simping me on a private msg chill you're just cringey af

Wait I didn't ask you to join my conversation - why do you care so much? Why would you start something and back away from it - I am not like that.

Plus people that use terms like "simping", "cringey af" tend to be very young. Especially without explaining why - that's immature. It's obvious you were triggered however there are better ways to handle it. Even if you're young.

Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

I can be mature if you want but don't act as you post like a mature person. There's no conversation if you're talking to yourself. Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

I'm truly sorry.

[Crane08]

Wait I didn't ask you to join my conversation - why do you care so much? Why would you start something and back away from it - I am not like that.

Plus people that use terms like "simping", "cringey af" tend to be very young. Especially without explaining why - that's immature. It's obvious you were triggered however there are better ways to handle it. Even if you're young.

Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

I can be mature if you want but don't act as you post like a mature person. There's no conversation if you're talking to yourself. Also if I flamed you in the past - I'm sorry. Don't take it personal. I should've handled it differently. Going forward why don't we block each other.

I'm truly sorry.

I'm truly sorry as well.

[Klomp]

Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team in order to negotiate for their services.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q111

I believe "persuades in order to negotiate" is the key phrase. Minnesota was granted permission by the Raptors to talk to Finch. There was no persuasion or back-door communication involved.

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[OakleyDokely]

13% of current NBA coaches were employed by the Raptors at one time

[Raptaz]

Def need compensation if this was the other way around I'm sure the raptors would be having to give up a 1st lol

[Psubs]

13% of current NBA coaches were employed by the Raptors at one time

Nurse
Bjorkgren
Casey
Finch

13.33%

Maybe it will be 16.66%? I wonder how many are Spurs?

Pop
Doc Rivers
Budenholzer
Borrego
Quin Snyder
Monty Williams

Brett Brown and Jim Boylen have no job right now.

[OakleyDokely]

13% of current NBA coaches were employed by the Raptors at one time

Nurse
Bjorkgren
Casey
Finch

13.33%

Maybe it will be 16.66%? I wonder how many are Spurs?

Pop
Doc Rivers
Budenholzer
Borrego
Quin Snyder
Monty Williams

Brett Brown and Jim Boylen have no job right now.

a 1/3 of the league from Raps/Spurs

[SurgeIblocka]

So there is no compensation?

[JN]

Def need compensation if this was the other way around I'm sure the raptors would be having to give up a 1st lol

I have seen this comment about lack of compensation many times and I really don't agree with it.

The T-Wolves did not "steal" Finch from us. He was under contract with the Raptors, and the Raptors had to give permission for the T-Wolves to take him. The Raptors could have just said no -- wait till next summer. Its up to the Raptors and not the NBA as to whether they should seek compensation. And the Raptors likely did not.

It's all very reasonable to me. Finch was a high profile assistant coach hire who knows he is close to head coaching. He is not going to join an organization as assistant if that organization is going to make compensation demands. That would make him less marketable for his ultimate goal gig. As a top assistant he has some pull -- there was likely an understanding with the Raptors organization that he could leave whenever for no compensation.

[OakleyDokely]

So there is no compensation?

There usually isnt when someone gets a promotion.

If it was a lateral move, they would probably demand something.

[bape_lovers]

there is no next time unless we meet them in the finals? we played them twice

They've got to give us something right?

I know, right?I'm happy for him to get the promotion- solid dude as far as I could tell. However, he now knows all our wrinkles , and has all this friendly fire fodder at his disposal. I'd expect the Timberwolves to play us better next time round. Seems like bad business to give away your recipes for free. As a gesture of good faith I'd like to see rights to swap 2nds or something along those lines.

[Hero]

What the ****..... who in their right mind would want to coach that dumpster fire.....


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Head coach jobs aren't that easy to get.

[bballsparkin]

Compensation would be nice but I doubt realistic. The Raptors wouldn't want to infringe on a assistant coach's chance at getting a shot as a HC. And although the Wolves have been a dumpster fire I could see why a coach would want to be there. Especially one noted for offensive systems. It's not like the Wolves will be expected to win right away. And they do have some nice pieces.

[Gold Dragon]

Nurse setting a great trend just 3 years into the league. Although it is hard to claim much credit here as Finch was high on the wolves list before joining the Raptors. But it can only be a good thing for the narrative to develop that being a Raptors assistant is a stepping stone to a head coaching job.