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Post#1181 » by raferfenix » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:09 pm

Highlights from KOC's deep dive into whether the Bucks can compete with the Nets and Sixers:

Good offenses are pummeling the Bucks this season. Against teams with top-15 offensive ratings, the Bucks rank 25th in defensive rating, per NBA Advanced Stats. This is especially alarming considering Milwaukee ranked first in 2018-19 and sixth in 2019-20 against top-15 offenses and were first overall in defensive rating against all opponents in both seasons.

The league’s best teams have figured out how to exploit Mike Budenholzer’s defensive scheme, which calls for players to pack the paint to prevent layups and instead allow more open 3-pointers. But Brook Lopez has also lost a few steps since being named to the All-Defensive second team last season. He’s lumbering on closeouts on shooters, and has been even more heavy-footed defending perimeter threats.


Jrue Holiday was having a borderline All-Star season before the NBA’s health and safety protocols sidelined him on February 8. On top of losing one of the league’s best perimeter defenders, the Bucks are feeling the offseason losses of Wes Matthews, Eric Bledsoe, and George Hill, three veterans who could be relied on to get on-ball stops or make reliable off-ball rotations. Donte DiVincenzo, Bryn Forbes, and D.J. Augustin can’t make up the difference.


Budenholzer’s lack of notable adjustments in playoff series dating back to his time in Atlanta has given him a reputation as stubborn. But to his credit, the Bucks are changing. Slowly. This season, they’re switching screens about twice as often—though they still rank near the bottom of the league in frequency of switches. As Eric Nehm from The Athletic detailed earlier this month, the Bucks had some success closing a game against the Suns by switching more screens, though it didn’t work quite as well the following game against the Jazz. Giannis Antetokounmpo said the Bucks are using regular-season games as practices to install this new scheme.

“Win or lose, we’re getting better. Game by game, we improve. We are trying new things. We started the game switching. We’ve never done this before. It’s something we did at the end of the game in Phoenix. It’s something we think is going to help us,” Antetokounmpo said after the Bucks lost to the Jazz on February 12. “We changed our scheme in one day. We basically practiced our scheme in the game, but we know it’s something that’s going to help us two or three months from now.”

A switching scheme doesn’t necessarily guarantee success for Milwaukee anyway. For one, installing any system midseason, with limited off-days and practice time, is a challenge. Secondly, switching works best when there aren’t weak links. Milwaukee’s personnel aside from Giannis, Holiday, and Khris Middleton remains a concern. It’s not pretty when Lopez gets caught defending a guard, or when Forbes finds himself trying to contain a player 40 pounds heavier.

The Bucks most frequently switch screens with lineups that have Giannis at center. Perhaps we’ll see more of this in the playoffs. But even if the Bucks pull Lopez and put Giannis at center to maximize their switchability in a series against the Nets, it would put more strain on their shallow backcourt. The Bucks need to get their scheme right and upgrade the roster. The problem is they gave up the majority of their assets for Holiday. Executives around the league view DiVincenzo as the most valuable asset the Bucks have, ahead of first-round pick swaps in 2021 and 2023, and five second-round picks through 2027. They don’t have much to offer.

League sources told me in November that the Bucks were in pursuit of P.J. Tucker from the Rockets. Their interest remains today. Tucker would absolutely help. He is a stout defender who could thrive in small-ball lineups next to Giannis. Tucker turns 36 in May and will be a free agent this offseason, but the trade possibilities are limited with an empty asset cupboard.


The evidence that good opponents have figured them out is getting harder and harder to ignore. Giannis is now signed through 2025, but this team cannot become complacent. Change is needed now.


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Post#1182 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:27 pm

Please no to Tucker
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Post#1183 » by GoldenAntlers » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:37 pm

Tucker seems like the classic player who will lose all ability to play basketball the minute he signs with the Bucks while simultaneously being the type of player who will get traded to a rival and torch us in the playoffs.
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Post#1184 » by Siefer » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:48 pm

So KOC just re-wrote Nehm's article but worse?
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Post#1185 » by StickeeFingaz » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:05 pm

Would be fun to see which sneakers PJ wears every night but I fear he’s washed.
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Post#1186 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:08 pm

I wish we could snag Rubio with his value down. We’ve never had someone with court vision that can get Giannis some gimme buckets
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Post#1187 » by Frank Nova » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm

What’s the fascination with PJ Tucker? I’m not even sure he’s worth a vet min after a buyout let alone trading an asset for. I keep seeing all this stuff on social media about Tucker linked to MKE. What issue other than “toughness” does Tucker solve? If he can play 15mpg like Bruce Bowen in the playoffs then I guess he’s worth looking into but what are really the chances of that?

We definitely need to consolidate the redundancy and mediocreness of DDV Pat Forbes Augustin. Keep 2 and offer the other 2 and Brook for Oladipo or something.

This team with Holiday can compete with Other Philly, Boston, Toronto and Miami no question. We should be the best of that bunch in theory but no chance we are getting past Brooklyn. If Giannis can lose the ECF in more than 5 games he should feel like he won a title this year.
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Post#1188 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:24 pm

No one's gonna trade an asset for PJ Tucker. He's just a guy that can fill that Marvin Williams role and that's why he's the type of guy we should be looking at cuz, you know.....we have no assets.
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Post#1189 » by raferfenix » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:31 pm

Whether this board is interested in Tucker or not, KOC sure makes it seem like the team wants him:

League sources told me in November that the Bucks were in pursuit of P.J. Tucker from the Rockets. Their interest remains today. Tucker would absolutely help. He is a stout defender who could thrive in small-ball lineups next to Giannis. Tucker turns 36 in May and will be a free agent this offseason, but the trade possibilities are limited with an empty asset cupboard.


Curious if PJ would be more about supplementing BroLo or a temporary fix to replace him too.
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Post#1190 » by Wonka » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:35 pm

PJ is 35. I get the appeal of a vet who theoretically brings toughness, defense, leadership and shooting, but his body isn’t holding up. I’ve watched a good amount of Rocket games this year and he’s not impacting the game like he was a few years ago.
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Post#1191 » by SupremeHustle » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:35 pm

Can't see how Tucker helps. If he somehow ended up on the Bucks without them giving up anything, cool. Other than that, silly move.
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Post#1192 » by EastSideBucksFan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:42 pm

Frank Nova wrote:What’s the fascination with PJ Tucker? I’m not even sure he’s worth a vet min after a buyout let alone trading an asset for. I keep seeing all this stuff on social media about Tucker linked to MKE. What issue other than “toughness” does Tucker solve? If he can play 15mpg like Bruce Bowen in the playoffs then I guess he’s worth looking into but what are really the chances of that?

We definitely need to consolidate the redundancy and mediocreness of DDV Pat Forbes Augustin. Keep 2 and offer the other 2 and Brook for Oladipo or something.

This team with Holiday can compete with Other Philly, Boston, Toronto and Miami no question. We should be the best of that bunch in theory but no chance we are getting past Brooklyn. If Giannis can lose the ECF in more than 5 games he should feel like he won a title this year.



The Bucks have exactly nobody they can bring off the bench to throw at: Durant, Kawhi, Lebron, etc. when they are giving our team fits. Bucks will not win anything in the postseason without more defensive minded options.

Right now we're short 1-2 wings and a big that can actually switch.

PJ is not what he used to be and Bucks shouldn't be emptying out limited assets as we're not 1-2 pieces away from a championship this year. But, if Bucks can get him for not much, he'd be a welcome addition. We are still a very soft team.
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Post#1193 » by RogerMurdock » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:43 pm

I mean, adding Tucker would give the Bucks another player who goes by his first two initials, the second being "J," so that's pretty cool.
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Post#1194 » by emunney » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:46 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:I mean, adding Tucker would give the Bucks another player who goes by his first two initials, the second being "J," so that's pretty cool.


But they're *not* his initials.
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Post#1195 » by raferfenix » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:05 pm

I don't think it's impossible that PJ Tucker could have a Jerry Stackhouse kind of resurgence here in a reduced role in the twilight of his career.

Ideally the Rockets want DJ Augustin (or even Pat Connaughton) in which case the deal could save the Bucks some salary space next season too.

Not sure what other teams are offering but Woj says Houston wants a player not a pick:

“The Lakers have been active. I know they’ve made calls about some wing players to see if there is some shooting available out there. Another player they’re interested in: P.J. Tucker, from the Houston Rockets. There’s a lot of interest among contenders in Tucker, who’s in the last year of his deal. The Miami Heat, who the Lakers play tonight, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, several others. One thing I’m told is that Houston wants back not picks, but a player that they can plug back into their lineup.”


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Post#1196 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:18 pm

Nobody wants Augustin's contract. Been pounding the Wilson + Pat for Tucker + Boogie drum all season, but it looks like Houston's gonna do a buy out with Boogie and he wants to go to the Lakers, so that sucks.
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Post#1197 » by Matches Malone » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:19 pm

In before Lasry makes Horst trade DDV for Tucker...
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Post#1198 » by Thanos1985 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:35 pm

In Greek media they say rockets want donte. I hope we will get it done giving one or 2 Djs
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Post#1199 » by EugeneBucksFan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:44 pm

You can sense that this possible trade is problematic from miles away. We know Rockets want a player as a return. What can we give them to match PJ's wage? Probably more than we should! Also, adding another slow, washed player won't solve anything even if his experience provides 1-2 good plays per game...

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Post#1200 » by smauss » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:57 pm

This team needs a bonafide all-star talent, a true #2 guy to compete in the east, much less for a championship. This roster and the talent it brings will not cut it. Let's face facts, we beat poor to average teams, we lose to good to great teams. Right now, we are not a good team - talent-wise, much less scheme-wise. No more Bandaids - please!
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