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CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year?

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Re: How would you fix this team? 

Post#321 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:17 pm

LBF bomb!
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Re: How would you fix this team? 

Post#322 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:18 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:LBF bomb!

You hate to see it
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#323 » by playa-hater » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:20 pm

Notice a slight change to the thread title. Straight forward question, Is there anything that can be done for this season that will make us real contenders?

Or is this year a "near" wash?
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#324 » by akidlittle » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:21 pm

Let's start a "Give Nesmith 30 MPGs and 10 FGAs per game" petition and come what may
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Re: How would you fix this team? 

Post#325 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:34 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:LBF bomb!

You hate to see it

I mean not a shock. Harrison Barnes is what this team wants or someone like him.

I'm legit worried that Danny will sit on his ass though if nothing like that emerges
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#326 » by nic4747 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:03 pm

Danny needs to bring in a playmaker. Otherwise we should just try to get as far as we can while giving as many minutes as possible to Timelord, Pritchard, and Nesmith.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#327 » by darrendaye » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:18 am

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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#328 » by BostonCouchGM » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:27 am

yes, as soon as Brad wakes up and goes with this:

Pritchard-Kemba
Nesmith-Smart
Brown-Semi
Tatum-Williams
Theis-TimeLord

that's the best lineup and will possibly get us to the ECF. I just wouldn't hold my breath because Brad has clearly lost it
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Post#329 » by BK_2020 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:36 am

Starting Pritchard is the kind of bold move that can get us closer to the coveted bottom 5 finish. I like it.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#330 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:yes, as soon as Brad wakes up and goes with this:

Pritchard-Kemba
Nesmith-Smart
Brown-Semi
Tatum-Williams
Theis-TimeLord

that's the best lineup and will possibly get us to the ECF. I just wouldn't hold my breath because Brad has clearly lost it


That goes a bit too far.
-- Kemba should be Sixth Man, but there's no reason not to start Smart in that case.
-- The other 8 guys deserve enough minutes that Semi and Grant shouldn't both get equal billing with, say, Kemba and Smart.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#331 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:02 am

So in my misery, I decided to go down memory lane and re-read some posts in here. Amazing that I was blasted for saying way back in Dec/Jan that they were major problems. Some of the responses on here were beyond ridiculous.
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Re: How would you fix this team? 

Post#332 » by fallguy » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:06 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Try to add a complimentary (not star) piece that's signed long term, which is apparently what they're attempting to do at the deadline.


Please be an undersized combo guard.

Please be an undersized combo guard.

Please be an undersized combo guard.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#333 » by keevsnick1 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 am

My steps to fixing the Celtics:

1) Get healthier. Smart/Romeo/Kemba either back from injury or back to form.

2) Increase Timelord's minutes dramatically.

3) Trade for a starter level big wing (SF/PF) under contract for at least 1.5 years like Nance, Aaron Gordon, Harrison Barnes using the TPE.

4) Clear end of bench scrubs, take some fliers on other guys. We know Edwards and Teague are bad.

5) Trade Thompson for a similar size salary player at a different position who can be a rotation player. Like Grant Hill.
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Re: How would you fix this team? 

Post#334 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:28 am

fallguy wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Try to add a complimentary (not star) piece that's signed long term, which is apparently what they're attempting to do at the deadline.


Please be an undersized combo guard.

Please be an undersized combo guard.
Please be an undersized combo guard.


You forget to add "who cannot shoot" to the end of your sentences.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#335 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:16 pm

My ideas for a fix:

1. Make favorable assumptions about player health and development. If those are mainly false, there's no chance for a satisfying postseason anyway.

2. Trade for Harrison Barnes. Send out Thompson and other spare parts. Also bring in a replacement backup center, cheaper and bouncier than Thompson (Noel would be my ideal).

3. Have two core lineups:

Team A: Smart, Brown, Tatum/Walker, Barnes, Theis/Timelord. This group starts (with Kemba as sixth man), finishes, and plays 30+ minutes per game. Smart is the floor leader at both ends of the court. Defense is very switchy.

Team B: Walker, Tatum, Timelord, Pritchard, Nesmith. Two great creative scorers and three guys who like to catch-and-score, and are willing to move their bodies to get into position to do so. If a possession reset is needed, Pritchard is the PG. Active defense, with rookie mistakes and other breakdowns expected; Timelord is the eraser.

Grant, Romeo, et al., if they're still here, have chances to play for reasons of rest, injury, and/or situational fit, and have chances to force their way into regular minutes from there.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#336 » by Wes-J » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:23 pm

I want to maximize the Jay's playing together, **** all this stagger BS. What's most important is that they continue to develop a chemistry as their talent evolves. Not as individuals on the court, TOGETHER.

So I would roll out a starting lineup of:

Pritchard-Brown-Tatum-Ojeleye, Timelord

The Jay's do their thing together without Kemba disrupting their chemistry. Semi gets the benefit of parking his ass in the corner and being the defensive specialist. Pritchard brings play-making and takes some pressure off the Jay's to be facilitator while spacing the floor. Timelord can take over in a Capela role and ramp up to 25-30m PT. PP and TL are the best we got and deserve to start and I shouldn't have to mention they're the future. This lineup provides a lot of playmaking, scoring, and defensive potential.

Then a backup unit of:

Kemba-Nesmith--Green--Theis-Thompson

This is a no-brainer let Kemba do what he does best like he did in Charlotte. In this scenario Nesmith doesn't have to stand around and watch the Jay's, he can be asked to be aggressive in being the #2 option after Kemba. This is the best way for him to shine IMO. Green is the defensive specialist and energy guy here. Theis and Thompson can grind against the backup bigs in this league, they're practically useless against most starters.

Bottom line I feel the more time the Jay's get together the better off we'll be. Of course this is a short term solution assuming no trades in the near future. We get Smart back then we should swap him for Semi and let Semi take out Green.

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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#337 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:31 pm

Listen, Kemba's return and Tatum getting Covid screwed up the season.

But it's obvious that the supporting cast around the Jays was bad and overachieved early and was going to be exposed at some point.

I said it in the PG thread but this team can go one of two directions: 2018 style Cavs blow up the team, which IMO they should do, or they could trade all the vets and play the kids the whole year. But that would piss Tatum and Brown off.

But knowing them, they'll punt. Which is a joke if they do.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#338 » by Fierce1 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:12 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Listen, Kemba's return and Tatum getting Covid screwed up the season.

But it's obvious that the supporting cast around the Jays was bad and overachieved early and was going to be exposed at some point.

I said it in the PG thread but this team can go one of two directions: 2018 style Cavs blow up the team, which IMO they should do, or they could trade all the vets and play the kids the whole year. But that would piss Tatum and Brown off.

But knowing them, they'll punt. Which is a joke if they do.


Tatum and Brown won't be pissed if they get to pad their stats. :lol:
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#339 » by tfribs45 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:24 pm

nic4747 wrote:Danny needs to bring in a playmaker. Otherwise we should just try to get as far as we can while giving as many minutes as possible to Timelord, Pritchard, and Nesmith.


That's the same old song and dance.... We've been saying this since the Brooklyn trade, there's no chance we hit the reset button. Wait until after the all-star break, you will see some positive changes and additions.
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Re: CAN the Celtics be Fixed this year? 

Post#340 » by playa-hater » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:37 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
nic4747 wrote:Danny needs to bring in a playmaker. Otherwise we should just try to get as far as we can while giving as many minutes as possible to Timelord, Pritchard, and Nesmith.


That's the same old song and dance.... We've been saying this since the Brooklyn trade, there's no chance we hit the reset button. Wait until after the all-star break, you will see some positive changes and additions.


hitting the reset can be in the summer. But an addition should be made by the trade deadline. as I said already. Smart, an addition, a shortened rotation, increase RW minutes and a All star game break can ignite this team IMO.
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