Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1

[GoGreen]

Ffs all this Brad hate. See what Terry is doing in Charlotte? We had him! It's Danny who let him go for a smaller, older, more expensive version with knee issues who has become a liability.

Horford still playing well in OKC. A facilitator this team could use. Had him. Gone.

Brad can't do a damn thing with this roster. It's absolute hot garbage.

We could have a solid lineup of Terry, Smart, the Jays, Horford and AND a TPE! How is that on Brad? I'm sorry guys but giving Rob more minutes or calling timeouts at different spots in games or being a harda** of a coach isn't going to solve jack when this roster is filled with g leaguers. Danny left him hanging.

(Yes Brad deserves heat too. It is legit to question whether he's fit to lead big egos in the NBA. But Ainge deserves the bigger piece of the blame pie imo)

[SMTBSI]

Ffs all this Brad hate. See what Terry is doing in Charlotte? We had him! It's Danny who let him go for a smaller, older, more expensive version with knee issues who has become a liability.

Rozier is the final rebuttal to all the fans who have excoriated Ainge the last several years for "overvaluing his assets" and not being willing to trade "ham and eggers" for real players. I don't think it's even an argument anymore that we'd be better off if we'd "overvalued" our own guys even more than we did. Could have had Rozier and whoever we would have taken at #8 in 2018, instead of the Kyrie/Kemba roller coaster.

I think that's something that needs to be considered in the situation we're in right now, where everyone is demanding trades and big changes and instant solutions.

Front offices and ownership groups are not immune to fan/media pressure. It was that pressure to make constant forward progress and not appear to "take a step backward" that has gotten us where we are today, imo. This is all ripple effects down from the first IT trade, which put us on a "win now" trajectory a couple seasons earlier than we should have been.

[Fierce1]

That sucks! We are a treadmil team with Brad. Same **** every season for 3 years now. We are just lucky the east are weak. If we don’t make the playoffs this season, or loses in the 1st rd convincingly, Brad gets fired.

Maybe after 2 consecutive seasons where the Celts underachieve, but not this year.

[Triple7]

That sucks! We are a treadmil team with Brad. Same **** every season for 3 years now. We are just lucky the east are weak. If we don’t make the playoffs this season, or loses in the 1st rd convincingly, Brad gets fired.

Maybe after 2 consecutive seasons where the Celts underachieve, but not this year.

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

[Fierce1]

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

It's not the same case with Brad.

Casey was fired because the Raptors failed miserably in the playoffs 5 consecutive seasons.

In 2014 it was a 1st round exit under Casey

Same thing happened in 2015, Casey as coach.

In 2016, Raptors made it to the east finals but lost to Lebron and the Cavs, 4-2.

Casey was doing fine until 2017 and 2018.

What happened in 2017 and 2018?

Lebron and the Cavs swept the Raptors both times.

Of course the coach would get fired, the team got swept in 2 consecutive seasons!

[Triple7]

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

It's not the same case with Brad.
We all know it’s not Casey’s fault. It’s just bad timing that Lebron is in the east that time. The raps lack the personnel to defeat the cavs. They juat wanted change. That’s exactly where we are right now. We need change, and a change from Brad’s style and culture. These guys need a leader. Someone that have their backs. Someone that hold players accountable. I have never seen Brad get a tech just to change momentum lol.

Casey was fired because the Raptors failed miserably in the playoffs 5 consecutive seasons.

In 2014 it was a 1st round exit under Casey

Same thing happened in 2015, Casey as coach.

In 2016, Raptors made it to the east finals but lost to Lebron and the Cavs, 4-2.

Casey was doing fine until 2017 and 2018.

What happened in 2017 and 2018?

Lebron and the Cavs swept the Raptors both times.

Of course the coach would get fired, the team got swept in 2 consecutive seasons!

[Fierce1]

But the thing is Brad just got a contract extension and there's not a hint of him being on the hot seat.

[Triple7]

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

It's not the same case with Brad.

Casey was fired because the Raptors failed miserably in the playoffs 5 consecutive seasons.

In 2014 it was a 1st round exit under Casey

Same thing happened in 2015, Casey as coach.

In 2016, Raptors made it to the east finals but lost to Lebron and the Cavs, 4-2.

Casey was doing fine until 2017 and 2018.

What happened in 2017 and 2018?

Lebron and the Cavs swept the Raptors both times.

Of course the coach would get fired, the team got swept in 2 consecutive seasons!

We all know it’s not Casey’s fault. It’s just bad timing that Lebron is in the east that time. The raps lack the personnel to defeat the cavs. They juat wanted change. That’s exactly where we are right now. We need change, and a change from Brad’s style and culture. These guys need a leader. Someone that have their backs. Someone that hold players accountable. I have never seen Brad get a tech just to change momentum lol.

[Triple7]

But the thing is Brad just got a contract extension and there's not a hint of him being on the hot seat.

Yeah i agree. That’s Dannys boy. Just wait till we keep on losing, and Tatum says something, then it’s bye bye Brad lol. That’s the only time Brad gets fired, if Jayson wants it.

[Fierce1]

I think talking about firing Brad or Ainge is moot.

It's just not going to happen.

Ainge has the support of the owners and Brad has the support of Ainge.

[Fierce1]

But the thing is Brad just got a contract extension and there's not a hint of him being on the hot seat.

Yeah i agree. That’s Dannys boy. Just wait till we keep on losing, and Tatum says something, then it’s bye bye Brad lol. That’s the only time Brad gets fired, if Jayson wants it.

I agree with that.

If the star players start complaining then that's the time Brad gets fired.

[Casey_Jones]

Nurse > Stevens

Two excellent coaches. I'd say on the same level. That bubble series was epic.

Nah! That series would have been over sooner, if not for Brad **** us up. That cost us the series against Heat, guys are dead tired after a gruelling 7 games. Plus nurse is a motivator, Brad isn’t. You need those type of leaders in the playoffs.

Though I do agree with what you're saying, Nurse made some really pivotal mistakes as well. For example, he kept going back to Pascal over and over despite the fact that Pascal was clearly not the same player going into the bubble. His force-feeding of Pascal in game 2 literally cost us that game and nearly cost us game 6. I guess I really wasn't paying attention to the mistakes Brad was making.

[Casey_Jones]

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

It's not the same case with Brad.

Casey was fired because the Raptors failed miserably in the playoffs 5 consecutive seasons.

In 2014 it was a 1st round exit under Casey

Same thing happened in 2015, Casey as coach.

In 2016, Raptors made it to the east finals but lost to Lebron and the Cavs, 4-2.

Casey was doing fine until 2017 and 2018.

What happened in 2017 and 2018?

Lebron and the Cavs swept the Raptors both times.

Of course the coach would get fired, the team got swept in 2 consecutive seasons!

We all know it’s not Casey’s fault. It’s just bad timing that Lebron is in the east that time. The raps lack the personnel to defeat the cavs. They juat wanted change. That’s exactly where we are right now. We need change, and a change from Brad’s style and culture. These guys need a leader. Someone that have their backs. Someone that hold players accountable. I have never seen Brad get a tech just to change momentum lol.

Comparing Brad Stevens to Dwayne Casey is an absolute crime. Casey was one of the most stubborn and idiotic coaches I've ever witnessed. Both his in game and between game adjustments were terrible. Brad Stevens is a way better coach. It's no coincidence that the raptors became a much more formidable opponent when he was fired and replaced with Nurse. I mean yes it helps having Leonard, but they were still 17-5 in that year without him. Even last year, fairly convinced they could have made the finals if a couple of things went right. That would never happen with Casey.

[Vampirate]

That will happen this off season. Unless for some anomaly we reach the conf finals, which i think won’t happen. Unless our opponents is struck by the injury bug. Kudos to the Raps for having the guts to fire Casey, after getting the top seed, and winning coach of the year. Brad ahould have been fired after that gentleman sweep from the Bucks. Good for him Kyrie got most of the blame, but he really **** up that team as well. He mismanaged it tremendously.

It's not the same case with Brad.

Casey was fired because the Raptors failed miserably in the playoffs 5 consecutive seasons.

In 2014 it was a 1st round exit under Casey

Same thing happened in 2015, Casey as coach.

In 2016, Raptors made it to the east finals but lost to Lebron and the Cavs, 4-2.

Casey was doing fine until 2017 and 2018.

What happened in 2017 and 2018?

Lebron and the Cavs swept the Raptors both times.

Of course the coach would get fired, the team got swept in 2 consecutive seasons!

We all know it’s not Casey’s fault. It’s just bad timing that Lebron is in the east that time. The raps lack the personnel to defeat the cavs. They juat wanted change. That’s exactly where we are right now. We need change, and a change from Brad’s style and culture. These guys need a leader. Someone that have their backs. Someone that hold players accountable. I have never seen Brad get a tech just to change momentum lol.

The issue with the Celts is simple, Kemba has sucked so far this season in terms of scoring and Marcus Smart has not played in a while.

Tatum is a great player but has kinda plateaued bit in terms of production compared to last year. Brown has taken the step forward to be a #2 or #3 option depending on how you view him.

Thing is, in order for Tatum to carry this Celtic roster, he'd have to be at a Harden, KD level of player.

So essentially you have 2 very good-great players who can give you 40-60 points combined, but after that Kemba is way too inconsistent and the Celtics just don't have a truly reliable starter as Smart hasn't played in a while.

The Celtics either need a 3rd reliable option/starter or for Tatum to hit the KD level essentially.

As for the Casey Raptors, they underperformed compared to their RS records as the playoffs would give the fans anxiety.

for the record, Derozan under Pop is a much better playoff performer than Derozan under Casey.

Casey is an above avg - good coach but cannot get your team to the next level, which is real playoff success.

[Fencer reregistered]

The story of a Draymond Green kerfuffle manages to namecheck all of Brad Wanamaker, Gordon Hayward, and Terry Rozier.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30938089/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-crossed-line-late-ejection-steve-kerr-says

[Fierce1]

Watching a little Bulls vs. Rockets game.

Thad Young is the perfect role player.

He does a lot of things that helps a team win games.

Besides scoring, he's also an excellent passer and a very good rebounder.

[zoyathedestroya]

Watching Hornets vs. Jazz right now and I'm wondering what sport the Celtics are playing lol.

Also, Favors is washed. He plays like he's 40.

[playa-hater]

Watching a little Bulls vs. Rockets game.

Thad Young is the perfect role player.

He does a lot of things that helps a team win games.

Besides scoring, he's also an excellent passer and a very good rebounder.

other than shoot 3s he is a perfect role player indeed.

[Triple7]

Watching Hornets vs. Jazz right now and I'm wondering what sport the Celtics are playing lol.

Also, Favors is washed. He plays like he's 40.

Clarkson has been phenomenal for the jazz!

[playa-hater]

If you guys don't remember, I will be happy to remind you. I stated 200 times I wanted Bey-Precious-Nesmith at 14. Looking good there. But I also said 200 times I wanted D Bane at 30. Technically I did get that, for a minute. In now 22 games and growing Bane still shooting 47 and 46% from 2 and 3.

I wanted Wings and shooters. Think about that going forward, Nesmith and/or Bane on either side and PP bringing it up. Yeah I know, we got 2 out of 3. but damn you Danny