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2010 wrote:Bouknight from NY too. He’ll value that NY across his chest and respect putting on the jersey. You know he’ll be tough.
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cgf wrote:
Does anyone else think Franz has been separating himself from Kispert in that late-lotto mix? Just feel like his defensive potential is a lot higher, but I'm not sure if that's just me being biased cause we share a passport.
2010 wrote:cgf wrote:
Does anyone else think Franz has been separating himself from Kispert in that late-lotto mix? Just feel like his defensive potential is a lot higher, but I'm not sure if that's just me being biased cause we share a passport.
Tbh it’ll depend on team needs. Kispert is the elite shooter out of the two. Wagner has a more well-rounded game but not particularly elite at any one skill. So it depends on what the teams in their draft range value. Which is why I said the other day, none of this really matters until the lottery balls are drawn. Like TerranceClake says, it’s all tiers right now.
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cgf wrote:2010 wrote:cgf wrote:Does anyone else think Franz has been separating himself from Kispert in that late-lotto mix? Just feel like his defensive potential is a lot higher, but I'm not sure if that's just me being biased cause we share a passport.
Tbh it’ll depend on team needs. Kispert is the elite shooter out of the two. Wagner has a more well-rounded game but not particularly elite at any one skill. So it depends on what the teams in their draft range value. Which is why I said the other day, none of this really matters until the lottery balls are drawn. Like TerranceClake says, it’s all tiers right now.
Sure, but that's the difference between a mock draft & a personal big board. I wasn't trying to ask who will go higher, just who people rate more atm.
2010 wrote:cgf wrote:2010 wrote:
Tbh it’ll depend on team needs. Kispert is the elite shooter out of the two. Wagner has a more well-rounded game but not particularly elite at any one skill. So it depends on what the teams in their draft range value. Which is why I said the other day, none of this really matters until the lottery balls are drawn. Like TerranceClake says, it’s all tiers right now.
Sure, but that's the difference between a mock draft & a personal big board. I wasn't trying to ask who will go higher, just who people rate more atm.
I rate Kispert higher. His elite skill is extremely valuable in today’s NBA. I also believe although he doesn’t have the length of Wagner, he has a strong enough body to switch onto wings and some 4’s.
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3toheadmelo wrote:Ayo Dosunmu should be a lottery pick. He is much better than guys like Moody and Kispert
3toheadmelo wrote:Ayo Dosunmu should be a lottery pick. He is much better than guys like Moody and Kispert
2010 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Ayo Dosunmu should be a lottery pick. He is much better than guys like Moody and Kispert
There's questions about his position, his court vision, and whether his game will translate at the NBA level. But we know you biased against shooters so of course you gonna automatically say he better than Moody/Kispert.
Angryfatboy wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Ayo Dosunmu should be a lottery pick. He is much better than guys like Moody and Kispert
He is slept on in a lot of mock drafts I guess because he’s an upper class man. Not quite sure he has a natural feel to play point guard in the NBA the potential is there though. but his defense, shooting and transition scoring should transfer over at the very least.
dukeknicksirish wrote:Latest Mock Draft has us selecting :
13. New York Knicks (via Dallas Mavericks): Corey Kispert (Gonzaga, SF, Senior)
There may be other prospects with higher perceived ceilings, but the Knicks need shooting badly enough to target Kispert, who's at 45.7 percent from three and 87.7 percent on free throws. Though the senior lacks on-ball creativity and defensive upside, head coach Tom Thibodeau would appreciate his general offensive efficiency and team-defense IQ.
16. New York Knicks: Jaden Springer (Tennessee, PG/SG, Freshman)
Though Springer skeptics question his athleticism and playmaking, his scoring efficiency (49.0 field-goal percentage), shooting (15-of-32 on three-pointers), passing IQ, defense and age (18) should be enough for a mid-first-round team to look past his limited transition offense and assist numbers.
32. New York Knicks (via Detroit Pistons): Charles Bassey (W. Kentucky, C, Sophomore)
Bassey is back from injury and picking up right where he left off, rebounding and blocking shots at a high level.
2021 New York Knicks
Springer / Rivers
Kispert / IQ (6th man)
RJ / Knox
Randle / Obi
Mitch / Bassey
Until we sign a starting PG and SG because God knows Thibbs won't start 1 rookie, let alone 2
robillionaire wrote:dukeknicksirish wrote:Latest Mock Draft has us selecting :
13. New York Knicks (via Dallas Mavericks): Corey Kispert (Gonzaga, SF, Senior)
There may be other prospects with higher perceived ceilings, but the Knicks need shooting badly enough to target Kispert, who's at 45.7 percent from three and 87.7 percent on free throws. Though the senior lacks on-ball creativity and defensive upside, head coach Tom Thibodeau would appreciate his general offensive efficiency and team-defense IQ.
16. New York Knicks: Jaden Springer (Tennessee, PG/SG, Freshman)
Though Springer skeptics question his athleticism and playmaking, his scoring efficiency (49.0 field-goal percentage), shooting (15-of-32 on three-pointers), passing IQ, defense and age (18) should be enough for a mid-first-round team to look past his limited transition offense and assist numbers.
32. New York Knicks (via Detroit Pistons): Charles Bassey (W. Kentucky, C, Sophomore)
Bassey is back from injury and picking up right where he left off, rebounding and blocking shots at a high level.
2021 New York Knicks
Springer / Rivers
Kispert / IQ (6th man)
RJ / Knox
Randle / Obi
Mitch / Bassey
Until we sign a starting PG and SG because God knows Thibbs won't start 1 rookie, let alone 2
For one, there’s no way we draft three rookies. They will combine the picks for one guy or move the picks for a star.
That aside, these dudes would be g-league bound or best case scenario getting 9 minutes off the bench behind some vet on a 1 year deal. Don’t even entertain the idea that they will start games.
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