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Re: Dallas Mavericks Quietly Gauging The Market For Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#61 » by Swish1906 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:52 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I love watching KP when he is on. He is a delight. That being said, there must be some real motivation issues as no way is he this bad a defender. It has to be effort, and the eye test says the same IMO. I think Zinger might not only have some attitude issues, but he also strikes me as the type that doesnt eat and breath basketball. I wouldnt be surprised if he is a regular in the Dallas party scene, he just seems like that type. And that is fine if it doesnt affect your play, but I really think it does.


He missed last night with a back issue and reports were he's been dealing with it all season. Which fits the visual of him never getting down into a stance. So it might not be lack of effort as much as a back issue. Either way, it's a problem.

I have no idea if he parties with the COVID restrictions, but I know there was that famous photo of him with a ripped shirt and bleeding after some incident, so certainly he's been into the nightlife scene.

From what I've seen, he seems like a guy who cares about how he plays and wants to be good and takes ownership when he plays poorly, but I have no idea if he's more Dirk or Nash in terms of finding a gym versus finding a party.


But forget his work ethic, if you have a 7'3" guy with knee and back issues that's a major concern.


What a garbage take going from partying in his home country in the offseason and getting attacked by city-known thugs to "dont know if he parties now blabla"
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Post#62 » by NY 567 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:53 pm

Trading him would be dumb now anyway with his value low. When he came back last year he was playing poorly, but around February and through the bubble he was an absolute beast. If you're going to move him, do it when he starts to get into a rhythm and is playing well
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Quietly Gauging The Market For Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#63 » by Castle Black » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:55 pm

Who in their right mind is taking on that contract..? He’s owed $130M guaranteed over the next 4 years :o

And this is before you take into account how bad he is defensively and his his proneness to injury. 7’3 with chronic knee & back issues is a recipe for disaster in the NBA.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Quietly Gauging The Market For Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#64 » by jpengland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:56 pm

Be foolish not to gauge the market.

I just don't think we make a move that lowers our ceiling and I have yet to see a deal that improves our ceiling.

Cap space this summer is irrelevant. We can squeeze to max space if the right guy was available anyway, which they aren't.
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Post#65 » by MintFresh » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:58 pm

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this is interesting. wiggs, minn, wiseman for KP, Rich do it Steph.
your new death lineup 2022 steph,klay,Rich, draymond, KP.

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Post#66 » by Up-And-Coming » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:00 pm

I’m sure the Thunder will take him for a first round pick though
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Post#67 » by Archx » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:05 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:We Knicks fans warned you, because we were watching the games, while other fanbases were actually buying the hype and used it to pile on the Knicks... the irony.



Mavs made a calculated risk, sometimes you have to do it in order to win. Just didn't play out the way people expected (so far). They made the same risk in 2018 draft and they won big. It's not like Mavs are the Lakers where free agents almost lineup to play there.
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Post#68 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:09 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:We Knicks fans warned you, because we were watching the games, while other fanbases were actually buying the hype and used it to pile on the Knicks... the irony.

Big facts.
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Post#69 » by Oscirus » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:10 pm

wasnt cubans whole thing that he wouldnt make the same mistake that he made with Nash and dirk?

That being said, he couldnt get anything good enough anyway so its a pointless story.
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Post#70 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:11 pm

Lowry, Powell, Baynes and a first for Kristaps and THJr

Mavs get an out on Kristaps if they are really done with him as Lowry is expiring. Lowry is also still allstar quality this season putting up 18/6/5 with a 60TS% + elite D and leadership to turn things around for the Mavs. Norm is averaging 21/4/2 with a 67TS% as a starter in 18 games this year and gives Dallas another scoring threat from the wing alongside Luka. Both guys have experience playing small in the Raptors system and both aren't high usage guys.

Raptors don't necessarily need Kristaps to come back right away if he's not 100% as we aren't in realistic title contention. We can rest and rehab him this season (another incentive for the Mavs to get our pick) as he will be our C for the future to pair with OG/Fred/Siakam. THJr fills in for Norm on our roster in the meantime
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Re: Dallas Mavericks Quietly Gauging The Market For Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#71 » by leolozon » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:14 pm

Dallas can gauge the market, but they won't trade him without getting something back.

I didn't think it was a good idea to give him the max, because I didn't see that type of potential for him, but even I think he still has a high potential.

Now, this is if he can get back to what he was defensively... If he keeps playing like that the whole year, I'll probably change my opinion, because right now the team isn't worst when he isn't playing and they're maybe even better.

They don't need KP's offense, they need his defense. He has to be able to provide it.
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Post#72 » by UcanUwill » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:14 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:We Knicks fans warned you, because we were watching the games, while other fanbases were actually buying the hype and used it to pile on the Knicks... the irony.

Big facts.


you guys give yourself too much credit, no one knew Porzingis would turn into such a stiff, he was one of the most promising defenders in the league.
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Post#73 » by rtiff68 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:17 pm

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Knicks reporter.... don't believe everything you read



Yeah, I don't see GS and DAL as good trade partners. When I look at GS's assets, everything is either too valuable or not valuable enough for Porzingis.
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Post#74 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:18 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:We Knicks fans warned you, because we were watching the games, while other fanbases were actually buying the hype and used it to pile on the Knicks... the irony.

Big facts.


you guys give yourself too much credit, no one knew Porzingis would turn into such a stiff, he was one of the most promising defenders in the league.

We warned y’all. You just chose not to listen.
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Post#75 » by matt6715 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:19 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Lowry, Powell, Baynes and a first for Kristaps and THJr

Mavs get an out on Kristaps if they are really done with him as Lowry is expiring. Lowry is also still allstar quality this season putting up 18/6/5 with a 60TS% + elite D and leadership to turn things around for the Mavs. Norm is averaging 21/4/2 with a 67TS% as a starter in 18 games this year and gives Dallas another scoring threat from the wing alongside Luka. Both guys have experience playing small in the Raptors system and both aren't high usage guys.

Raptors don't necessarily need Kristaps to come back right away if he's not 100% as we aren't in realistic title contention. We can rest and rehab him this season (another incentive for the Mavs to get our pick) as he will be our C for the future to pair with OG/Fred/Siakam. THJr fills in for Norm on our roster in the meantime


I feel like Mavs would push for Boucher to be included in this deal instead of Baynes, with maybe another guy going out in the deal i.e. Josh Green. But this probably isn't very far off.
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Post#76 » by omerome » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:21 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:We Knicks fans warned you, because we were watching the games, while other fanbases were actually buying the hype and used it to pile on the Knicks... the irony.

Big facts.


you guys give yourself too much credit, no one knew Porzingis would turn into such a stiff, he was one of the most promising defenders in the league.

Well, he had a debilitating injury which for a big man of his ability is not surprising that he is playing stiffer today. Would many people say it was a guarantee of what he is now? No. But many of us are not shocked at this turn of events.

What made KP the "unicorn" was his ability to stretch the floor while being a very good weakside defender and shot blocker. Giving him that contract was always a risk and even then, prior to that injury, he was never really durable anyways.
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Post#77 » by clyde21 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:23 pm

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clyde21 wrote:lol no way the Warriors are giving up a top 5 pick potentially for zinger at this point never gonna happen


ok gl winning with wiggs and rookie wiseman with a expiring 3 yr window. just win 1 more and rebuild. you had your run.
I dont mind the warriors imploding with all of them injured but wasting Steph's prime yrs is just blasphemous.
Just trade the trio for better deserving teams instead of holding them hostage.


lol we are already in the PO picture this year without Klay and 0 centers...thanks for worrying about us tho.
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Post#78 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:26 pm

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Post#79 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:29 pm

matt6715 wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Lowry, Powell, Baynes and a first for Kristaps and THJr

Mavs get an out on Kristaps if they are really done with him as Lowry is expiring. Lowry is also still allstar quality this season putting up 18/6/5 with a 60TS% + elite D and leadership to turn things around for the Mavs. Norm is averaging 21/4/2 with a 67TS% as a starter in 18 games this year and gives Dallas another scoring threat from the wing alongside Luka. Both guys have experience playing small in the Raptors system and both aren't high usage guys.

Raptors don't necessarily need Kristaps to come back right away if he's not 100% as we aren't in realistic title contention. We can rest and rehab him this season (another incentive for the Mavs to get our pick) as he will be our C for the future to pair with OG/Fred/Siakam. THJr fills in for Norm on our roster in the meantime


I feel like Mavs would push for Boucher to be included in this deal instead of Baynes, with maybe another guy going out in the deal i.e. Josh Green. But this probably isn't very far off.


Toronto getting scammed hard in that deal. KP is playing like Tim Hardaway on the Knicks. Negative player.
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Post#80 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:34 pm

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