NBA Trade Thread # 3

[othawhitemeat]

Would you make this trade? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9erzy3c

No because I think Jimmy will be average in about 2 years with all that wear/tear. His 3 point shot has been bad the last 2 years. Jimmy is better, but Zach is ascending with a much better contract for now.

[sco]

Three trades I'd push for:

Otto, Coby, Felicio, Sato, our unprotected 2021 1st to Detroit for Grant/Griffin

and

Lauri, Valentine to Boston for Smart

and

Hutch plus our 2021 2nd rounder to HOU for Nwaba


Would leave us with:

Smart, Arci
Zach, Nwaba,
PWill, Temple
Grant, Griffin
Carter, Thad

We could possibly nab a C and/or PG off waivers. We might lose a little on offense, but Smart, IMO is underrated offensively these days. That team could do serious damage in the playoffs.

[othawhitemeat]

Three trades I'd push for:

Otto, Coby, Felicio, Sato, our unprotected 2021 1st to Detroit for Grant/Griffin

and

Lauri, Valentine to Boston for Smart

and

Hutch plus our 2021 2nd rounder to HOU for Nwaba


Would leave us with:

Smart, Arci
Zach, Nwaba,
PWill, Temple
Grant, Griffin
Carter, Thad

We could possibly nab a C and/or PG off waivers. We might lose a little on offense, but Smart, IMO is underrated offensively these days. That team could do serious damage in the playoffs.

I would top 3 protect our Detroit pick if doing that. However, for Smart, that won't work. Smart is the glue to that team and why they are losing.

[ChettheJet]

No way on the first trade Coby and a first for Grant when even with his monster year in the mix, his average season isn't worth either. And nobody has any idea if he can put up these numbers on a quality team or it's just that the Pistons are so bad that they just turn him loose and hope someone is enthralled and offers too much.
Unless BOS is in love with the idea of resigning Lauri they don't do this, great for the Bulls though
Nwaba is that great image off in the distance that once you get up close isn't so shiny. The Bulls don't have the offensive firepower to have 4 scorers on the floor with him to make up for his lack of offense. It's just like when Arci plays, other teams back off of him and don't pay him much attention because they've seen that he just isn't scoring threat. Arci can hit a shot, he just seems want to pass first and is reluctant to shoot, Nwaba might take the open shots but if he was improving as a scorer any of the teams he's been with wouldn't be so willing to trading him.

[TheHrvReport]

Lauri, Coby and a first for KAT. Do the T Wolves accept that trade? Maybe an extra future 1st would need to be added.

[gobullschi]

Three trades I'd push for:

Otto, Coby, Felicio, Sato, our unprotected 2021 1st to Detroit for Grant/Griffin

and

Lauri, Valentine to Boston for Smart

and

Hutch plus our 2021 2nd rounder to HOU for Nwaba


Would leave us with:

Smart, Arci
Zach, Nwaba,
PWill, Temple
Grant, Griffin
Carter, Thad

We could possibly nab a C and/or PG off waivers. We might lose a little on offense, but Smart, IMO is underrated offensively these days. That team could do serious damage in the playoffs.

I would trade almost anybody (not LaVine or PAW) to get Jerami Grant on the Bulls. AK and Billy Donovan are more familiar with who Grant is than most of the league. If a deal was made then I’d feel confident about it. He’s the perfect complimentary player for LaVine because he can defend, pass, and create for himself. I’m also OK with absorbing Blake Griffin’s contract because I like the ‘22 free agency class better anyways. I think it will cost more than your proposed deal to get him in Chicago though. Lauri would need to be included or a third team

I’m a Lonzo Ball believer, so I would rather sign him in the offseason than move an asset for Smart.

I’m not a big fan of moving a young piece and a draft pick for Nwaba either.

[LateNight]

New Bulls outcasts pod - sounds like we’re getting through to Sabine - I think he’s gonna crack!

He’s dropped from “trade Thad for two seconds” to “he isnt untouchable”. Which is... closer to acceptable

[gobullschi]

After seeing the number of votes that Zach LaVine received from other players in the league to be an all-star, I’m now confident they will be interested in teaming up with him in Chicago.

The Bulls should focus on making the playoffs this season and keep cap space available during the ‘21 & ‘22 free agency period to sign two difference makers. The Bulls have done a good job winning games without Markkanen anyways.

Some trade scenarios that I believe are reasonable are:

Charlotte: Jalen McDaniels + 2021 1st (top 10 protected for Lauri Markkanen & Chandler Hutchison

New Orleans: Josh Hart & 2021 1st (top 10 protected) for Lauri Markkanen & Chandler Hutchison

Phoenix: Cam Johnson & 2021 1st (top 10 protected) for Lauri Markkanen & Chandler Hutchison

2021 Free Agent Targets:
Victor Oladipo
John Collins (has beef with Trae Young)
Lonzo Ball

2022 Free Agent Targets:
Bradley Beal (Zach can start recruiting him at all-star game)
Julius Randle (Zach can start recruiting him at all-star game)
Marcus Smart

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Lauri, Coby and a first for KAT. Do the T Wolves accept that trade? Maybe an extra future 1st would need to be added.

I think adding a co-star big with Lavine is what we need. He plays so well when WCJ and Thad are hitting their shots/making good passes. Its the perfect release valve for him when he gets doubled.

We need to get a real PG that can defend, another athletic wing who can defend, and a 1B option with Lavine. That to me is the formula to be a top 4 team or better.

I'm not sure Lauri is an asset as a RFA. But we have free agency, Coby, and our own picks. I dont care about a 12-18 range pick anymore. It doesn't fit the current makeup of the team. I dont think we have enough assets to make it happen, we're going to have to get lucky in FA

[CaPiTanAK]

Lauri, Coby and a first for KAT. Do the T Wolves accept that trade? Maybe an extra future 1st would need to be added.

I think adding a co-star big with Lavine is what we need. He plays so well when WCJ and Thad are hitting their shots/making good passes. Its the perfect release valve for him when he gets doubled.

We need to get a real PG that can defend, another athletic wing who can defend, and a 1B option with Lavine. That to me is the formula to be a top 4 team or better.

I'm not sure Lauri is an asset as a RFA. But we have free agency, Coby, and our own picks. I dont care about a 12-18 range pick anymore. It doesn't fit the current makeup of the team. I dont think we have enough assets to make it happen, we're going to have to get lucky in FA

Yup, my #1 target is KAT. He's going to trade in a year or two, not signed via FA. That's why I'm in favor of resigning Lauri and use up our cap space to sign winning players that will be used in a consolidation trade later. No cap space necessary.

In a year or two, KAT might possibly be trade for 3-5 first rounders. We need to have a winning team and be ready for that opportunity.

[sco]

I'm on board with Otto for Drummond...costs us nothing to try before we buy.

I want one of Ball, Wall, Rubio or Smart...any of them would be a big help. I think Wall or Rubio, given their teams are looking at rebuilds could be had cheaply (although we'd need Otto in a package for Wall to make salaries work).

I guarantee there will be an upgrade like Vonleh available via FA after teams waive guys...dumping Kornet costs very little.

[Andi Obst]

We have such a fun offense, after all these years, and people want to watch Andre Drummond chuck hook shots for half the game instead. I just don’t understand the thinking here.

[MrSparkle]

We have such a fun offense, after all these years, and people want to watch Andre Drummond chuck hook shots for half the game instead. I just don’t understand the thinking here.

Makes perfect sense. We have to trade all our expiring contracts for Ball and Drummond, so that 2 of our 3 youngest players Wendell and Coby can ride the pine or also be traded.

Putting the ball in 1 guy's hands and feeding the post is exactly what Donovan needs.

Nevermind the fact that 90% of our success has come from scrappy/quick 4-shooter guard line-ups with Thad at center..

[TheSuzerain]

We have such a fun offense, after all these years, and people want to watch Andre Drummond chuck hook shots for half the game instead. I just don’t understand the thinking here.

Makes perfect sense. We have to trade all our expiring contracts for Ball and Drummond, so that 2 of our 3 youngest players Wendell and Coby can ride the pine or also be traded.

Putting the ball in 1 guy's hands and feeding the post is exactly what Donovan needs.

Nevermind the fact that 90% of our success has come from scrappy/quick 4-shooter guard line-ups with Thad at center..

This really is a good point. Paying big money for an average starting center seems like an awful plan to me.

I'd rather try to play with no center at all.

[CaPiTanAK]

We have such a fun offense, after all these years, and people want to watch Andre Drummond chuck hook shots for half the game instead. I just don’t understand the thinking here.

Makes perfect sense. We have to trade all our expiring contracts for Ball and Drummond, so that 2 of our 3 youngest players Wendell and Coby can ride the pine or also be traded.

Putting the ball in 1 guy's hands and feeding the post is exactly what Donovan needs.

Nevermind the fact that 90% of our success has come from scrappy/quick 4-shooter guard line-ups with Thad at center..

This really is a good point. Paying big money for an average starting center seems like an awful plan to me.

I'd rather try to play with no center at all.

It’s not hard to draft a contributor C nowadays who can rebound and play defense.

I personally would look into that rather than wasting precious cap space for these types of player.

Money should be prioritized for playmakers and shot creators.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Dejounte Murray is a sleeper guy I've been watching for a bit. 24 years old, already made an all defensive team, would be a good fit next to Zach, signed long term. Offensive numbers can be better, but maybe he gets better looks next to Zach?

I don't think the Spurs are interested in trading in general, especially one of their better players, but Lauri + 2021 pick swap (top 5 protected) + Coby is something I like for Murray + Lonnie Walker.

[Indomitable]

We have such a fun offense, after all these years, and people want to watch Andre Drummond chuck hook shots for half the game instead. I just don’t understand the thinking here.

Makes perfect sense. We have to trade all our expiring contracts for Ball and Drummond, so that 2 of our 3 youngest players Wendell and Coby can ride the pine or also be traded.

Putting the ball in 1 guy's hands and feeding the post is exactly what Donovan needs.

Nevermind the fact that 90% of our success has come from scrappy/quick 4-shooter guard line-ups with Thad at center..

This really is a good point. Paying big money for an average starting center seems like an awful plan to me.

I'd rather try to play with no center at all.

Do people only watch the Bulls?

You can get him for a broken Otto because he is a cancer. He is consider lazy.

Drummond is a gifted man but I do not believe this team can make him work towards it. If we had MJ sure. He would not let you rest.

Drummond is a cancer. I would rather keep Lauri then sign him.

This is not a video game. His inability to actually give a damn is a big red flag.

[samwana]

Dejounte Murray is a sleeper guy I've been watching for a bit. 24 years old, already made an all defensive team, would be a good fit next to Zach, signed long term. Offensive numbers can be better, but maybe he gets better looks next to Zach?

I don't think the Spurs are interested in trading in general, especially one of their better players, but Lauri + 2021 pick swap (top 5 protected) + Coby is something I like for Murray + Lonnie Walker.

Dejounte was the guy I wanted most at our position in the draft and we ended up with Denzel in the same draft? I'd love to get him on our team!

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[Chi town]

Id' rather have Lonzo than Murray. I think Lonzo will sign the exact same deal Murray did too.

[gobullschi]

Id' rather have Lonzo than Murray. I think Lonzo will sign the exact same deal Murray did too.

I like Murray a lot but Lonzo is a similar player and wouldn’t cost assets.