Who will be the steal of the 2020 draft?

Patsfan1081 · Post #41 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pm

amcoolio wrote:Vernon Carey was supposed to be a top 5 pick before the college season, dropped 30 pounds after the season to get faster and he’s ripped, and has a shot to be the Hornets starting center...just saying

So wasn’t Charles Bassey. :noway:

Post #42 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:49 pm

I can see Oturu earning a starting spot on the Clippers

amcoolio · Post #43 » by **amcoolio** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:47 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
amcoolio wrote:Vernon Carey was supposed to be a top 5 pick before the college season, dropped 30 pounds after the season to get faster and he’s ripped, and has a shot to be the Hornets starting center...just saying

So wasn’t Charles Bassey.

what

No-Man · Post #44 » by **No-Man** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:02 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I can see Oturu earning a starting spot on the Clippers

Nazrmohamed · Post #45 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:08 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
SNPA wrote:Agreed. I don’t get it. The teams must know something we don’t? How does that guy fall to 58? Makes no sense without there being more to the story.

I was listening to his interviews prior to the draft and I wasn't really impressed. Doesn't come off as a guy who has his stuff together or particularly smart, but I was also thinking there have been successful guys in the NBA with that kind of profile. He's a defender and if anything I think this is only going to push his defense to another level. With his frame and ability, I can't see him not having success.

Didn’t he have the worst cone drill out of everyone? I mean you couldn’t even beat out Azibuke?

How is that possible from the game footage we saw? Oh well.

doordoor123 · Post #46 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:38 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
I was listening to his interviews prior to the draft and I wasn't really impressed. Doesn't come off as a guy who has his stuff together or particularly smart, but I was also thinking there have been successful guys in the NBA with that kind of profile. He's a defender and if anything I think this is only going to push his defense to another level. With his frame and ability, I can't see him not having success.

Didn’t he have the worst cone drill out of everyone? I mean you couldn’t even beat out Azibuke?

How is that possible from the game footage we saw? Oh well.

Maybe he wasn’t playing basketball the entire time off and gained bad weight? That seems like a possibility and would make sense with him falling so much. Maybe he didn’t seem dedicated to basketball? I don’t know, just speculation. It’s just so weird how far he went.

Stillwater · Post #47 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
SNPA wrote:Agreed. I don’t get it. The teams must know something we don’t? How does that guy fall to 58? Makes no sense without there being more to the story.

I was listening to his interviews prior to the draft and I wasn't really impressed. Doesn't come off as a guy who has his stuff together or particularly smart, but I was also thinking there have been successful guys in the NBA with that kind of profile. He's a defender and if anything I think this is only going to push his defense to another level. With his frame and ability, I can't see him not having success.

Didn’t he have the worst cone drill out of everyone? I mean you couldn’t even beat out Azibuke?

probably hurt or something way too mobile for that to be the case long term

Catchall · Post #48 » by **Catchall** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:53 am

Catchall wrote:The Jazz think Udoka Azubuike is the next Shaq, so...

Jazz front office had media availability today. They said that their pre-draft analytics had Udoka as the #2 prospect in the draft, in part due to Udoka's 75% FG% and KU's defensive rating of 80 when Udoka was on the floor. That sounds like an exaggeration, but the Jazz's scouting staff also had rated Udoka as a top-10 prospect in the draft overall.

No-Man · Post #49 » by **No-Man** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:37 pm

Catchall wrote:
Catchall wrote:The Jazz think Udoka Azubuike is the next Shaq, so...

Jazz front office had media availability today. They said that their pre-draft analytics had Udoka as the #2 prospect in the draft, in part due to Udoka's 75% FG% and KU's defensive rating of 80 when Udoka was on the floor. That sounds like an exaggeration, but the Jazz's scouting staff also had rated Udoka as a top-10 prospect in the draft overall.

yeah they are wasting their money paying those folks, ridiculous :lol:

That's just so dumb

Catchall · Post #50 » by **Catchall** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 8:10 pm

Fischella wrote:
Catchall wrote:
Catchall wrote:The Jazz think Udoka Azubuike is the next Shaq, so...

Jazz front office had media availability today. They said that their pre-draft analytics had Udoka as the #2 prospect in the draft, in part due to Udoka's 75% FG% and KU's defensive rating of 80 when Udoka was on the floor. That sounds like an exaggeration, but the Jazz's scouting staff also had rated Udoka as a top-10 prospect in the draft overall.

yeah they are wasting their money paying those folks, ridiculous

That's just so dumb

I get where they're coming from though. Udoka's per-36 stats were 18/14/3.4bl, and his advanced stats at age 20/21 were as good as Joel Embiid's. The question is how much of that will translate to the NBA where he's not always the biggest, strongest and most athletic player on the floor.

No-Man · Post #51 » by **No-Man** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 8:58 pm

Azubuike was 20/21 in 2016/17

LloydFree · Post #52 » by **LloydFree** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 9:08 pm

#58. Paul Reed
#35. Xavier Tillman

Both Reed and Tillman were better than at least 5 of the bigs who were drafted in the 1st round. Both should have been picked no lower than 25.

nolang1 · Post #53 » by **nolang1** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:32 pm

Catchall wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Catchall wrote:
Jazz front office had media availability today. They said that their pre-draft analytics had Udoka as the #2 prospect in the draft, in part due to Udoka's 75% FG% and KU's defensive rating of 80 when Udoka was on the floor. That sounds like an exaggeration, but the Jazz's scouting staff also had rated Udoka as a top-10 prospect in the draft overall.

yeah they are wasting their money paying those folks, ridiculous

That's just so dumb

I get where they're coming from though. Udoka's per-36 stats were 18/14/3.4bl, and his advanced stats at age 20/21 were as good as Joel Embiid's. The question is how much of that will translate to the NBA where he's not always the biggest, strongest and most athletic player on the floor.

Right, you can’t shoot the messenger when it comes to stats and the only argument against it is ‘he’s big and strong and African so he’s actually 3 years older.’

Post #54 » by **Klomp** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:49 pm

Klomp wrote:Jaden McDaniels landed in a spot where he could be viewed as an absolute steal a couple years down the road.

Hi guys!

clyde21 · Post #55 » by **clyde21** » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:18 pm

still surprising to me that Diakite went undrafted (unless it's something that he specifically wanted), he's been killing it in the G League, we'll see how it translates to the NBA but he always had the makings of a good 3rd or 4th big off the bench.

EvanZ · Post #56 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:03 am

clyde21 wrote:still surprising to me that Diakite went undrafted (unless it's something that he specifically wanted), he's been killing it in the G League, we'll see how it translates to the NBA but he always had the makings of a good 3rd or 4th big off the bench.

Why would you ever draft a good 3rd or 4th bench big?

clyde21 · Post #57 » by **clyde21** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:20 am

EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:still surprising to me that Diakite went undrafted (unless it's something that he specifically wanted), he's been killing it in the G League, we'll see how it translates to the NBA but he always had the makings of a good 3rd or 4th big off the bench.

Why would you ever draft a good 3rd or 4th bench big?

because it's better than drafting **** players?

EvanZ · Post #58 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:31 am

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:still surprising to me that Diakite went undrafted (unless it's something that he specifically wanted), he's been killing it in the G League, we'll see how it translates to the NBA but he always had the makings of a good 3rd or 4th big off the bench.

Why would you ever draft a good 3rd or 4th bench big?

because it's better than drafting **** players?

Uh no it *is* the definition of drafting *** players. It's also just a dumb use of draft capital.

clyde21 · Post #59 » by **clyde21** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:35 am

EvanZ wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Why would you ever draft a good 3rd or 4th bench big?

because it's better than drafting **** players?

Uh no it *is* the definition of drafting *** players. It's also just a dumb use of draft capital.

i have no idea what any of this means but you do you.

Stillwater · Post #60 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:43 pm

doordoor123 wrote:Its going to be Aaron Nesmith. He's going to be so good IMO. I think he's going to be a perennial all-star. The Celtics ran away with another steal of the draft.

He kind of stayed hidden in this draft, kind of like Donovan Mitchell when he was drafted. I really think he's going to be amazing. No one at his age has ever had the kind of skilled shooting as him. He also has great size, the potential on defense, and he wants to be great. I have so much confidence in this guy and the fact the Celtics took him made me believe in him more.

Care to change your opinion yet because he has been awful trying to fill smarts shoes defensively.
And his shooting as expected has not transferred not even a little bit. Hes just looks like a shooter who struggles to be shot maker against length.
I like his potential but he was never klay 2.0