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Post#641 » by shrink » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:30 pm

I try to limit my expectations about how good a rookie will be his first year. They are almost always bad, as they get used to the speed of the nba, and the experience and athleticism of their opponents. I am happy to see occasional flashes.

Last night was a solar flare full of flashes for me! I barely care that the team lost. Seeing all this from Edwards makes it one of the happiest games this year for me!
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#642 » by Baseline81 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:59 pm

Dewey wrote:LeBoy ... 39.6 mpg ... 20.9 ppg ... 18.9 fga ... 41.7% fg ... 29% 3pt ... 75.4% ft ... 5.5 rebounds ... 5.9 assists
ANT ..... 26.7 mpg ... 14.1 ppg ... 14.1 fga ... 39.1% fg ... 32.7 3pt ... 80.0% ft ... 3.6 rebounds ... 2.3 assists

LeBoy ... .53 pts/minute ... 0.139 TRB/min ... 0.149 asst/min ... ORTG 101 ... DRTG 103
ANT ..... .53 pts/minute ... 0.135 TRB/min ... 0.090 asst/min ... ORTG 106 ... DRTG 112

LeBoy ... one of the most heralded players to ever be taken #1 in the draft ... manna from heaven.
ANT ..... questionable #1 pick in what was considered a poor draft

Interesting to compare rookie seasons ... LeBoy delivered a more rebounded game and brought 6'9" presence as a rookie, but looking ahead, it's all about where can ANT take his game from here. Lots of improvements to make. ANT had a partial year of college on a poor team, but no legit NBA training camp, so with a full off-season, this ya can only hope he makes strides year to year...

I'm curious to see what Edwards' stats are since he's been starting game.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#643 » by TheZachAttack » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:18 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Dewey wrote:LeBoy ... 39.6 mpg ... 20.9 ppg ... 18.9 fga ... 41.7% fg ... 29% 3pt ... 75.4% ft ... 5.5 rebounds ... 5.9 assists
ANT ..... 26.7 mpg ... 14.1 ppg ... 14.1 fga ... 39.1% fg ... 32.7 3pt ... 80.0% ft ... 3.6 rebounds ... 2.3 assists

LeBoy ... .53 pts/minute ... 0.139 TRB/min ... 0.149 asst/min ... ORTG 101 ... DRTG 103
ANT ..... .53 pts/minute ... 0.135 TRB/min ... 0.090 asst/min ... ORTG 106 ... DRTG 112

LeBoy ... one of the most heralded players to ever be taken #1 in the draft ... manna from heaven.
ANT ..... questionable #1 pick in what was considered a poor draft

Interesting to compare rookie seasons ... LeBoy delivered a more rebounded game and brought 6'9" presence as a rookie, but looking ahead, it's all about where can ANT take his game from here. Lots of improvements to make. ANT had a partial year of college on a poor team, but no legit NBA training camp, so with a full off-season, this ya can only hope he makes strides year to year...

I'm curious to see what Edwards' stats are since he's been starting game.


Edwards stats since 1/27 (12 games - I believe 1-2 games before he started starting)

31.8 mpg

18.3 pts/game - 4.8 rbd/g - 3.3 ast/g - 1.6 stocks/g 1.3 TO/g

On the following shooting splits...

48.4% 2 PT FG (9.1 att/g)
38.5% 3 PT FG (6.5 att/g)
79.3% FT (2.4 att/g)


Per 36 minutes this is roughly...

21 ppg/g
5.5 rbd/g
4 ast/g
1.8 stocks/g
1.5 TO/g

Basically rookie year Donovan Mitchell numbers, but he's 2 years younger.

Mitchell was at...

33.4 mpg
20.5 ppg - 3.7 rbds - 3.7 ast - 2.7 TOs - 1.8 stocks

on

50% 2 PT (10 att/g)
34% 3 PT (7 att/g)
80.5% FT (3.8 att/g)
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#644 » by _AIJ_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:31 pm

shrink wrote:I try to limit my expectations about how good a rookie will be his first year. They are almost always bad, as they get used to the speed of the nba, and the experience and athleticism of their opponents. I am happy to see occasional flashes.

Last night was a solar flare full of flashes for me! I barely care that the team lost. Seeing all this from Edwards makes it one of the happiest games this year for me!

I agree! Boy he was fun to watch! Fearless as hell
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Post#645 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:39 am

Am I crazy to say this is our new Rubio? I just think about the personality, and how rookie Ricky lifted the guys who were down. Ant is doing the same thing. He's a bit polarizing as a prospect, might not ever be at the top of the league at the position, but damnit he's ours!
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Post#646 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:30 pm

One thing that's evident is that Edwards has really struggled to adjust to back-to-backs. In 6 games of no rest, he's shooting 31.4% from the field and 21.9% on 3-pointers. He's also come up short on some dunk attempts in those games including last night, so clearly he didn't have his legs.

6-21 / 1-9
0-8 / 0-2
5-14 / 2-7
5-12 / 2-5
8-16 / 2-4
3-15 / 0-4
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#647 » by Baseline81 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:02 am

The Jim Ross commentary is the cherry on the top.

Does he have no conscientious, does he have no heart, do you have no soul... you son of a b*tch, do you realize what you've just done!

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Post#648 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:56 am

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Post#649 » by Jedzz » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:06 am

Baseline81 wrote:
Dewey wrote:LeBoy ... 39.6 mpg ... 20.9 ppg ... 18.9 fga ... 41.7% fg ... 29% 3pt ... 75.4% ft ... 5.5 rebounds ... 5.9 assists
ANT ..... 26.7 mpg ... 14.1 ppg ... 14.1 fga ... 39.1% fg ... 32.7 3pt ... 80.0% ft ... 3.6 rebounds ... 2.3 assists

LeBoy ... .53 pts/minute ... 0.139 TRB/min ... 0.149 asst/min ... ORTG 101 ... DRTG 103
ANT ..... .53 pts/minute ... 0.135 TRB/min ... 0.090 asst/min ... ORTG 106 ... DRTG 112

LeBoy ... one of the most heralded players to ever be taken #1 in the draft ... manna from heaven.
ANT ..... questionable #1 pick in what was considered a poor draft

Interesting to compare rookie seasons ... LeBoy delivered a more rebounded game and brought 6'9" presence as a rookie, but looking ahead, it's all about where can ANT take his game from here. Lots of improvements to make. ANT had a partial year of college on a poor team, but no legit NBA training camp, so with a full off-season, this ya can only hope he makes strides year to year...

I'm curious to see what Edwards' stats are since he's been starting game.


I think tonight was 37 mins,20 shots and 35% FG. Starting, chucking a bit. 21 pts on 20 shots. But 9 rebounds! Didn't keep up with the few previous games if he started them. heard the past few were rough.
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Post#650 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:16 am

Baseline81 wrote:The Jim Ross commentary is the cherry on the top.

Does he have no conscientious, does he have no heart, do you have no soul... you son of a b*tch, do you realize what you've just done!

Read on Twitter


Now all we need is Ant doing his best Rock impression with an if you smell.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#651 » by Jedzz » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:17 am

Baseline81 wrote:The Jim Ross commentary is the cherry on the top.

Does he have no conscientious, does he have no heart, do you have no soul... you son of a b*tch, do you realize what you've just done!

Read on Twitter


:lol: that's great. Did the stadium add sound effects to when they landed? Couple times a game please.
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Post#652 » by m2002brian » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:19 am

Tony Edwards is going to a legit star.
Get this young man a pro shooting coach, a full offseason and then a full NBA preseason. Add in some legit NBA vets to the roster and next year is going to be nice.

Most players (not named Rubio) improve shooting once they become pros and can focus solely on their game.
A full offseason and preseason should really help him get down more of the team concepts. Probably why they made the coaching change now (should have been much earlier if I had a say) so that by next year, the concepts for the offense and roles for certain players can already be integrated to a point.
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Post#653 » by Jedzz » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:32 am

m2002brian wrote:Tony Edwards is going to a legit star.
Get this young man a pro shooting coach, a full offseason and then a full NBA preseason. Add in some legit NBA vets to the roster and next year is going to be nice.

Most players (not named Rubio) improve shooting once they become pros and can focus solely on their game.
A full offseason and preseason should really help him get down more of the team concepts. Probably why they made the coaching change now (should have been much earlier if I had a say) so that by next year, the concepts for the offense and roles for certain players can already be integrated to a point.


That sound great and all, but you know Rosas is likely going to flip at least half this roster between now and then. he might draft someone that completely conflicts with Edwards role this draft if they keep a high pick. And there has never really been a shooter that got much better at shooting while here. They stay who they are while here or get worse, historically. So while I'll choose to keep your glossy vision in view, I'll wait to believe it once it happens.

It is nice to see him actually enjoying postering someone. I'm trying to remember if Wiggins once did as a rookie or not.
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Post#654 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:35 pm

Jedzz wrote:It is nice to see him actually enjoying postering someone. I'm trying to remember if Wiggins once did as a rookie or not.

He had a few. Ant's was better.
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Post#655 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm

Klomp wrote:
Jedzz wrote:It is nice to see him actually enjoying postering someone. I'm trying to remember if Wiggins once did as a rookie or not.

He had a few. Ant's was better.


I mean...



I really miss those days. We really thought we had something special in this guy...
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Post#656 » by m2002brian » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:05 pm

Andrew did have those dunks, but I think most of us at the time still saw a player who was constant drinking the ball of his feet and not contributing much in the way of passing out rebounding.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#657 » by TheZachAttack » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:46 pm

Jedzz wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
Dewey wrote:LeBoy ... 39.6 mpg ... 20.9 ppg ... 18.9 fga ... 41.7% fg ... 29% 3pt ... 75.4% ft ... 5.5 rebounds ... 5.9 assists
ANT ..... 26.7 mpg ... 14.1 ppg ... 14.1 fga ... 39.1% fg ... 32.7 3pt ... 80.0% ft ... 3.6 rebounds ... 2.3 assists

LeBoy ... .53 pts/minute ... 0.139 TRB/min ... 0.149 asst/min ... ORTG 101 ... DRTG 103
ANT ..... .53 pts/minute ... 0.135 TRB/min ... 0.090 asst/min ... ORTG 106 ... DRTG 112

LeBoy ... one of the most heralded players to ever be taken #1 in the draft ... manna from heaven.
ANT ..... questionable #1 pick in what was considered a poor draft

Interesting to compare rookie seasons ... LeBoy delivered a more rebounded game and brought 6'9" presence as a rookie, but looking ahead, it's all about where can ANT take his game from here. Lots of improvements to make. ANT had a partial year of college on a poor team, but no legit NBA training camp, so with a full off-season, this ya can only hope he makes strides year to year...

I'm curious to see what Edwards' stats are since he's been starting game.


I think tonight was 37 mins,20 shots and 35% FG. Starting, chucking a bit. 21 pts on 20 shots. But 9 rebounds! Didn't keep up with the few previous games if he started them. heard the past few were rough.


To be fair, he missed a layup and then two tips on one play late in the game. If he makes that layup he's 8-18 versus 7-20. Missing a layup and then two tip shots on the same possession is different than missing shots on 3 different possessions. This is even more of a stretch, but he also hit a midrange when he was called for kind of a weak offensive foul with his off hand (that stuff happens every drive... I mean watch Giannis) which would mean effectively 8-19 if you take out the fact that those extra 2 tip shots don't really hurt a team past the first layup miss.

I know you can't do that but I think he was a little bit better than his numbers tonight. To be fair to that end, 3 of his 9 rebounds came on that possession (offensive rebounds).
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Post#658 » by RiRuHoops » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:06 pm

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=wiggian01&p1yrfrom=2015&player_id2=edwaran01&p2yrfrom=2021

Edwards and Wiggins are oh so similar in rookie seasons. Look at per 100 possessions # advanced.

Ant passes a little more, but Wiggins had the edge in shooting %s.
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Post#659 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:01 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Edwards and Wiggins are oh so similar in rookie seasons. Look at per 100 possessions # advanced.

Ant passes a little more, but Wiggins had the edge in shooting %s.

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.
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Post#660 » by Calinks » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:10 pm

I just find it humorous that so many people were worried about him being another Wiggins over somewhat irrational reasons like he doesn't like watching basketball and it would just be really a big coincidence anyway if they wound up being similar. Then halfway through the season and.. . their stats are pretty similar. Like this outcome is really unlikely and at the same time, it's kind of happening which isn't great but again, is absolutely the type of thing that would happen to this team. Can't make this stuff up.
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