So what's the pivot? (Beal, Lavine, or smaller moves)? - Post Harden ideas and rumors

[76ciology]

And why would Blazers want Gordon?

We here wanting CJ because we know the importance of a shot making 20ppg scorer and the Blazers dont?

And if Blazers trade CJ for Tobi, what does it accomplish for the Blazers?

The only way CJ lands here is there’s a difference in value system where Blazers opts to rebuild so they’d just ask for expiring, shake and maxey. Or maybe a pick, shake or maxey. Something in that line of thought.

Then what? Play CJ for this season.

By offseason, ship CJ and multiple picks for a bigger upgrade like Beal?

Possible?

Because they already have a 30 ppg guard. They need more versatility. Lillard and CJ are too similar. A lot of times they get diminishing returns between those two. It's not the first time it happens, so maybe they finnally want to trade CJ.

That's the only chance, not saying it will happen, but it's somewhat realistic.

Not seeing them rebuilding with Dame on his prime. And Dame doesn't seem like the kind of dude that asks for a trade.

And we also have a 30ppg player in Embiid.

Does not matter if its similar or not, look at the Nets or the Jazz.

Teams just run 2 man game and PnR. If Dame is having an off night then let CJ run it. If Dameis being shut down by Ben, he can let CJ or Melo run it like when we last played.

Blazers only chance is to stick with CJ and Dame. And like us, hoping variance plays it role in the playoffs where top players will play out of their mind similar to how Dirk won it with the Mavs.

[Kobblehead]

It's not about comparing Lowry to Green. Obviously a creator is more valuable than an ancillary piece.

It's about the nonsensical package needed to acquire Lowry and all the circumstances revolving the current state of him as a player/asset.

[76ciology]

Im not saying we do the exact trade.

Another idea is trade Shake for a guy who can help us now who’s less valuable and in return we also get a pick swap option.

For instance..

Shake for Austin Rivers and Knicks pick swap for 2021 draft.

And during the upcoming offseason, we then can use a lottery pick from knicks as a major asset along with our picks and maybe Tobi for a sizable player upgrade.

[stormi]

It depends on how replaceable you think someone like Tyrese Maxey is. If we (some of y'all) were fine trading Ben, because you could 'acquire a better player in every single draft', then I'm not sure why that logic wouldn't be held with consistency regarding a much more common Maxey.

The longevity with Lowry has to be taken into consideration too. His age scares me, but a small non-lottery pick point guard that can't shoot, an expiring and a late 20's pick isn't much of anything to be trading for a former champion that's a strong defender, averaging 18/5/6 shooting 40% from 3.

I'd like to extract further value though if possible in a Lowry deal like a Terence Davis or something of the likes though.

[Sammy63]

Rather keep Danny and trade Tobias for Lowry .

. No

Geez

[Kobblehead]

I think Milton's jumper will return in the coming months, thus allowing him to return to our G version of Tobias Harris.

[Kobblehead]

It depends on how replaceable you think someone like Tyrese Maxey is. If we (some of y'all) were fine trading Ben, because you could 'acquire a better player in every single draft', then I'm not sure why that logic wouldn't be held with consistency regarding a much more common Maxey.

Creators on their rookie contracts are worth their weight in gold. Teams are almost always better off just retaining their cheap creators and developing them. Even if Doc doesn't let Maxey cook this year, he likely will in year 2, year 3, and year 4.

[76ciology]

I think Milton's jumper will return in the coming months, thus allowing him to return to our G version of Tobias Harris.

I also believe that.

I’d rather use him as a ladder to help us get a good shot creator.

Just to be clear becauss i know how this goes. Im not saying i dont like him. But i’d trade him if he gets us a good return of assets to help us win in the bigger picture

[76ciology]

Adding Lowry is good if we basically get him for free.

But i wouldnt even give up thybulle for him. Max should be korkmaz, 2nd rounders and expiring.

[stormi]

Thybulle is a clear non-starter for me. Completely off the table. His defending is immense.

[76ciology]

Thybulle is a clear non-starter for me. Completely off the table. His defending is immense.

And you’ll have to change your avatar if that ever happens

[76ciology]

Im not saying we do the exact trade.

Another idea is trade Shake for a guy who can help us now who’s less valuable and in return we also get a pick swap option.

For instance..

Shake for Austin Rivers and Knicks pick swap for 2021 draft.

And during the upcoming offseason, we then can use a lottery pick from knicks as a major asset along with our picks and maybe Tobi for a sizable player upgrade.

Another idea is Shake, expiring to Houston for Eric Gordon and Wiz 1st.

[stormi]

Thybulle is a clear non-starter for me. Completely off the table. His defending is immense.

And you’ll have to change your avatar if that ever happens

A sad day indeed

[basketballRob]

Everyone wants to give away our first round picks for mediocre dudes who won't help us in the playoffs.

Fournier is a mediocre dude? Who’s a better scoring option available on the market?

Who said he was available?

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The Magic have no room to sign Fournier and stay under the tax threshold next season. So it would be rude if the Magic didn't trade Fournier before the deadline to a team that would want to resign him in the offseason.

When we get closer to the deadline, and we're still losing, i expect the rumors to heat up.

I do think if Maxey was included it would be a done deal. That's what i think they'll look for, a young SG.



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[Sixerscan]

I wouldn’t give them a future first. I would give them Green (who gives them a starter that they know how to use for the rest of this year), expiring filler along with Maxey (who gives them a long term replacement), then (Raptors fans stop reading here) ideally Morey negotiates them down to a second or two but if we’re giving them our first this year that will probably end up towards the end you live with it.

Lowry can hope for a 2/60 extension but I think we can negotiate him downwards.

[Kobblehead]

Fournier can put up production, but he's just an offensive cog. You can't give him the ball and ask him to cook. Can't fall for fake production. If the guy isn't cooking, it ain't real.

[Vampirate]

That makes it even worse. So not only do you have to lose a rookie contract creator and/or a 1st rounder, but you have to include a multi-time champion defensive player that can space the floor...all just to get in the ballpark of the trade, salary-wise. The ONLY defender on the roster that can consistently space the floor, BTW. The whole value aspect of a deal for Lowry sucks any way you slice it.

If we're putting Maxey and 1st rounders on the table, call up Chicago.

[stormi]

be more obnoxious. please

[Kobblehead]

Cool meme, bro.

Buy out your old, tiny meatball so he can join us the right way. Through the buyout market.

[stormi]

Imagine highlighting back to back years where Danny Green won championships and started every single one of those games and trying to display it as a negative thing. Casual lol