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NBA Trade Thread # 3

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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#721 » by TheHrvReport » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:54 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
TheHrvReport wrote:Lauri, Coby and a first for KAT. Do the T Wolves accept that trade? Maybe an extra future 1st would need to be added.


no way. as much as i love pat, i will trade him, OPJ, lauri, coby, 21,23 unprotected for DAR, KAT which is the best package.
KAT age and contract is just a match made in heaven with Lavine. KAT has goat potential as an offensive player.
If KAT even became avg defensively, tempted to keep Lauri and pair them. Those 2 would be the new splash bros.

I made this post before the game but after watching last night's game i'm not really that sold on KAT. He's pretty bad defensively, not sure i'd be wanting to part with too much in the hopes that he becomes a complete player.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#722 » by Indomitable » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:07 pm

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sco wrote:1000 times, yes. He is a decent PF, but he is on a cheap deal for 2 more seasons. Fills hole at PF and gives us an extra $10M to spend on a FA.

I think it is Pat best spot. I prefer a 2 way wing. Ideally someone like Josh Jackson.

I would rather get Jackson, Delon Wright , for the corpse of Griffin. Otto and some combination of Lauri and Hutch.

Getting Jackson and Wright, if we take Griffin, shouldn't require Lauri.

I am just throwing names. Jackson, Wright, Bismack, and a Nwabe type is what I want.

We keep Pat, Zach, Wendell, and Coby. Everyone else can be had for the right deal. I prefer to keep Thad though.

Everyone else can moved for the right price or to open capspace.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#723 » by leo921 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:35 pm

Bulls trade - Otto/White/Felico
Kings trade- Barnes/Hield

Bulls get a versatile two way 3/4 who can hit 3s and is very good on Defense, whose contract declines btw. We replace White with Hield, who is a deadeye gunner and run him off the bench. i know your going to say he doesnt like that, but he will like winning and being in the playoffs. Lots of new lineups all switchable with firepower with shooting. Have lots of depth on the wings and bigs with Barnes/Williams/Young/Lauri/Carter/Gafford.

Kings get cap space to rebuild around there backcourt of Fox White Haliburton
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#724 » by sco » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:47 pm

leo921 wrote:Bulls trade - Otto/White/Felico
Kings trade- Barnes/Hield

Bulls get a versatile two way 3/4 who can hit 3s and is very good on Defense, whose contract declines btw. We replace White with Hield, who is a deadeye gunner and run him off the bench. i know your going to say he doesnt like that, but he will like winning and being in the playoffs. Lots of new lineups all switchable with firepower with shooting. Have lots of depth on the wings and bigs with Barnes/Williams/Young/Lauri/Carter/Gafford.

Kings get cap space to rebuild around there backcourt of Fox White Haliburton

I don't mind the trade, but I would prefer to try to nab one of Fox/Hali. IMO (but maybe not the Kings') they are both PG's. Hield is a SG, and a better fit alongside either one. I'm not sure if Barnes is keeper for them. If they'd look to unload Barnes, I'd just try to nab him and filler. I'd try Otto/Lauri/Felicio for Barnes/Bjelica.

To get Fox or Hali, I'd go Lauri/Our unprotected 2021 first plus a pick swap in 2022.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#725 » by mtron32 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:09 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:Don't know if this would work but an idea I came up with

3 team deal

Dallas gets lauri markenen, Wendell Carter jr Tomas satoransky and Otto porter jr
Dallas sends kristaps porzingas, future 1st rd pick
Brunson

Chicago bulls get Karl Anthony towns, Brunson
Bulls send, Lauri, Carter jr, Satoransky, porter jr 2 unprotected picks, 1 pick swap coby white

Minnesota gets kristaps Porzingis, Dallas future 1st, coby white 2 future bulls picks unprotected and a bulls pick swap.
Minnesota sends Karl Anthony towns


Why the hell would any FO trade anything of value for KP's busted up self? That makes no sense
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#726 » by chefo » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:30 pm

leo921 wrote:Bulls trade - Otto/White/Felico
Kings trade- Barnes/Hield

Bulls get a versatile two way 3/4 who can hit 3s and is very good on Defense, whose contract declines btw. We replace White with Hield, who is a deadeye gunner and run him off the bench. i know your going to say he doesnt like that, but he will like winning and being in the playoffs. Lots of new lineups all switchable with firepower with shooting. Have lots of depth on the wings and bigs with Barnes/Williams/Young/Lauri/Carter/Gafford.

Kings get cap space to rebuild around there backcourt of Fox White Haliburton


That's a lot of $ for the Bulls to eat, IMO. I'd much rather do Barnes & scraps alone for Otto. Barnes would fit well with what the Bulls are trying to do--despite the fact that he looks bigger than I remembered him with the Dubs. Do you think he can play SF, or is he a PF exclusively?

I think we've seen what the team needs--another big wing, that can play some D at the PF spot, maybe C for tiny stretches. We don't need another gunner like Buddy, who'll be making Zach money. I think Barnes is a pretty good 3rd/4th banana on a really good team and he's been deep in the PO so he probably won't freak completely out when we get there.

Ideally, we'd also want a really good ball-handler for backup duties--> none of our guards (Zach, Sato, Coby, even Archie) handle ball pressure well and the best way to kill our offense right now is to speed them up with pressure. Somebody who can slow them down would be nice. What else do we have to work with? Felicio's contract?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#727 » by VolumePoster » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:57 pm

I really do like the idea of Barnes. He’s been a very good pro for a long time. Particularly if we decide to move Lauri, that’s strong defense and shooting at the wings from Williams and Barnes. (The law offices of). I’m not up on his health situation however.

Lauri for Lonzo and maybe a protected FRP?
OPJ for Barnes.

Lonzo White
Lavine White Temple
Williams Temple
Barnes Thadgic
WCJ Thadgic Gafford

Nice mix of youth and solid veterans who can still play. Strong point defender, wing defenders, and WCJ. I think I’d pull the trigger. We’d only be trading players that haven’t contributed to their best basketball.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#728 » by NocioniHomie » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:10 pm

All aboard the Barnes as 3rd/4th Banana Train!

OPJ/2021 protected first or OPJ/Lauri should work right?
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Post#729 » by Repeat 3-peat » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:07 pm

I highly doubt the Bulls will be trading for players with long term contracts that aren't stars.

AK is going to shape the roster up with his vision during the Summer. Which will be adding playmaking/shooting/versatility.

1st round picks won't be moved unless it's for a star. I guarantee it.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#730 » by KevinPandawong » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:19 pm

sco wrote:
leo921 wrote:Bulls trade - Otto/White/Felico
Kings trade- Barnes/Hield

Bulls get a versatile two way 3/4 who can hit 3s and is very good on Defense, whose contract declines btw. We replace White with Hield, who is a deadeye gunner and run him off the bench. i know your going to say he doesnt like that, but he will like winning and being in the playoffs. Lots of new lineups all switchable with firepower with shooting. Have lots of depth on the wings and bigs with Barnes/Williams/Young/Lauri/Carter/Gafford.

Kings get cap space to rebuild around there backcourt of Fox White Haliburton

I don't mind the trade, but I would prefer to try to nab one of Fox/Hali. IMO (but maybe not the Kings') they are both PG's. Hield is a SG, and a better fit alongside either one. I'm not sure if Barnes is keeper for them. If they'd look to unload Barnes, I'd just try to nab him and filler. I'd try Otto/Lauri/Felicio for Barnes/Bjelica.

To get Fox or Hali, I'd go Lauri/Our unprotected 2021 first plus a pick swap in 2022.


I was a big proponent for Haliburton during the draft, I thought and still think he's the ideal backcourt partner for Lavine. Sacramento is hanging up all calls regarding him though, his trade stock is still way too early to call from their viewpoint.

SGA though, is the much better version of Haliburton who I think OKC doesn't mind accepting a ludicrous offer to move. If I'm Karnisovas I'd give OKC an Anthony Davis sized treasure trove of draft picks to pair Lavine and SGA without a second thought.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#731 » by gobullschi » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:21 pm

Chandler Hutchison, Felicio, & maybe a 2nd for Trevor Ariza

Bulls need depth at forward with OPJ being so unreliable and it would be nice to have another veteran to mentor the Paw.

Edited: Added Felicio for salary matching purposes.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#732 » by kodo » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:47 pm

It is kinda crazy that our backup PF after Williams is Denzel Valentine...and he's still a heavily positive +/- player in that role.

On paper that has to be the worst PF rotation in the league by a huge margin. But it's working for Donovan somehow.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#733 » by chefo » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:55 pm

kodo wrote:It is kinda crazy that our backup PF after Williams is Denzel Valentine...and he's still a heavily positive +/- player in that role.

On paper that has to be the worst PF rotation in the league by a huge margin. But it's working for Donovan somehow.



Denzel has the game of an Y rec team power forward, haha (at least style-wise).
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#734 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:24 am

gobullschi wrote:Chandler Hutchison & maybe a 2nd for Trevor Ariza

Bulls need depth at forward with OPJ being so unreliable and it would be nice to have another veteran to mentor the Paw.

Ariza makes 12.8m whereas Hutchison only makes 2.4m, need much more additional salary for that to work.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#735 » by gobullschi » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:31 am

Muzbar wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Chandler Hutchison & maybe a 2nd for Trevor Ariza

Bulls need depth at forward with OPJ being so unreliable and it would be nice to have another veteran to mentor the Paw.

Ariza makes 12.8m whereas Hutchison only makes 2.4m, need much more additional salary for that to work.


Felicio’s expiring makes this work.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#736 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:27 am

gobullschi wrote:
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gobullschi wrote:Chandler Hutchison & maybe a 2nd for Trevor Ariza

Bulls need depth at forward with OPJ being so unreliable and it would be nice to have another veteran to mentor the Paw.

Ariza makes 12.8m whereas Hutchison only makes 2.4m, need much more additional salary for that to work.


Felicio’s expiring makes this work.

I'd do this trade, I doubt OKC would though unless a 1st is involved.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#737 » by gobullschi » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:29 am

Muzbar wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
Muzbar wrote:Ariza makes 12.8m whereas Hutchison only makes 2.4m, need much more additional salary for that to work.


Felicio’s expiring makes this work.

I'd do this trade, I doubt OKC would though unless a 1st is involved.


In what world is 35 year old Ariza bringing in a 1st round Pick?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#738 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:33 am

gobullschi wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
Felicio’s expiring makes this work.

I'd do this trade, I doubt OKC would though unless a 1st is involved.


In what world is 35 year old Ariza bringing in a 1st round Pick?

Sam Presti's world.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#739 » by gobullschi » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 am

Muzbar wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
Muzbar wrote:I'd do this trade, I doubt OKC would though unless a 1st is involved.


In what world is 35 year old Ariza bringing in a 1st round Pick?

Sam Presti's world.


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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#740 » by dawhizz » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:50 am

Trying to spitball about what we could get (and what we would want) from Boston for Lauri. He seems like the kind of player they are looking for (so maybe that’s why we don’t want to trade him there), but I feel like we should be able to get Williams (upgrade at backup C), Pritchard, and a first(?). Maybe Nesmith too? Not sure what Lauri’s value is now.
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