Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[Jkam31]

Why is this 45 page thread Omg

Cause people are dumb

[chrisab123]

The only non fighter athlete that might murder a pro fighter is Zlatan

[SAKURABA216]

The only non fighter athlete that might murder a pro fighter is Zlatan

I think Myles Garrett would probably destroy almost everyone in the UFC and this is coming from a longtime MMA fan. If Greg Hardy can be an ok UFC heavyweight imagine what this beast could do. I think only the top 5 UFC HWs would be able to beat this dude in a fight.

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[BK_2020]

Kemba Walker vs. Mike Tyson who wins

[DrCoach]

I would think Conner would be able to submit Zion or strike him in a vulnerable spot

[chrisab123]

The only non fighter athlete that might murder a pro fighter is Zlatan

I think Myles Garrett would probably destroy almost everyone in the UFC and this is coming from a longtime MMA fan. If Greg Hardy can be an ok UFC heavyweight imagine what this beast could do. I think only the top 5 UFC HWs would be able to beat this dude in a fight.

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I mean Hardy is only an okay heavyweight because Dana spoon feeds him opponents for the most part.

[EArl]

Do we need another Nate Robinson fiasco here? People don't learn.

[MPM]

The answer, of course, is neither. The Zion/McGregor conflict will only be solved when both agree to sit down at the table and talk through their differences. Only then will we have a chance at lasting peace on the general board.

[SAKURABA216]

The only non fighter athlete that might murder a pro fighter is Zlatan

I think Myles Garrett would probably destroy almost everyone in the UFC and this is coming from a longtime MMA fan. If Greg Hardy can be an ok UFC heavyweight imagine what this beast could do. I think only the top 5 UFC HWs would be able to beat this dude in a fight.

I mean Hardy is only an okay heavyweight because Dana spoon feeds him opponents for the most part.

I agree and Hardy got picked apart when he finally Volkov, but Myles Garrett appears to be on another level athletically. I mean, he looks way more jacked than even prime Arnold and is so explosive. Maybe saying he would beat anyone outside of the top 5 UFC HWs is a bit of an exaggeration, but he could definitely hold his own against anyone outside the top 10

[clyde21]

Myles Garrett is a crazy athlete but he would get rocked in the UFC what are u talking about? UFC has nothing to do with how high you can jump...

almost any half serious UFC heavy weight would destroy him if he doesn't have any MMA training, let alone guys like Stipe and Ngannou

[gorz]

Mma requires 3 elements to make a complete fighter. Fighter, Athlete, Martial Artist

Fighter- grit, toughness, fighting spirit, will to win

Athlete- balance, coordination, reflexes, power, hand speed, foot speed, mobility/flexibility in arms and legs, fast twitch for explosive movement, slow twitch for endurance

Martial Artist- technique, precision, timing, discipline

Your average fighter in the ufc have at least 1 strong suit of the three and decent with other two.

Zion as is with no proper training would lose to mcgregor in a sanctioned mma fight with a slim chance of lucky haymaker punch. Zion with proper training for 3-4 yrs would ko mcgregor cold.

[Duke4life831]

I think Myles Garrett would probably destroy almost everyone in the UFC and this is coming from a longtime MMA fan. If Greg Hardy can be an ok UFC heavyweight imagine what this beast could do. I think only the top 5 UFC HWs would be able to beat this dude in a fight.

I mean Hardy is only an okay heavyweight because Dana spoon feeds him opponents for the most part.

I agree and Hardy got picked apart when he finally Volkov, but Myles Garrett appears to be on another level athletically. I mean, he looks way more jacked than even prime Arnold and is so explosive. Maybe saying he would beat anyone outside of the top 5 UFC HWs is a bit of an exaggeration, but he could definitely hold his own against anyone outside the top 10

Greg Hardy has been training for over 4 years full time now. He just got destroyed by an unranked fighter (he’s ranked 15th now).

Yes Garrett is more of a physical freak than Hardy, but Hardy is still a damn good athlete especially for his size and still gets demolished by unranked fighters after 4 years of training.

Garrett gets smoked by 95% of the HW that are on the UFC roster. And that’s not saying much with how horrible that division is. The only ones he beats are the tomato cans they have on to pump up fighters like Hardy.

[The Explorer]

Garrett may be able to play in the NBA - perhaps a nick Collison type who is an excellent screen setter and a solid rebounder. But probably not much more than that. Those kind of players have mostly been phased out of the league now anyway.

[gorz]

I mean Hardy is only an okay heavyweight because Dana spoon feeds him opponents for the most part.

I agree and Hardy got picked apart when he finally Volkov, but Myles Garrett appears to be on another level athletically. I mean, he looks way more jacked than even prime Arnold and is so explosive. Maybe saying he would beat anyone outside of the top 5 UFC HWs is a bit of an exaggeration, but he could definitely hold his own against anyone outside the top 10

Greg Hardy has been training for over 4 years full time now. He just got destroyed by an unranked fighter (he’s ranked 15th now).

Yes Garrett is more of a physical freak than Hardy, but Hardy is still a damn good athlete especially for his size and still gets demolished by unranked fighters after 4 years of training.

Garrett gets smoked by 95% of the HW that are on the UFC roster. And that’s not saying much with how horrible that division is. The only ones he beats are the tomato cans they have on to pump up fighters like Hardy.

Garrett is a bigger freak of nature than ngannou not saying that guarantees success but his physical talent is undeniable and the hw division is one of the weakest divisons in terms of talent and depth. Hardy is nowhere close to garrett in terms of physical talent and too undisciplined in his craft to be a serious title contender @ heavyweight.

[Duke4life831]

I agree and Hardy got picked apart when he finally Volkov, but Myles Garrett appears to be on another level athletically. I mean, he looks way more jacked than even prime Arnold and is so explosive. Maybe saying he would beat anyone outside of the top 5 UFC HWs is a bit of an exaggeration, but he could definitely hold his own against anyone outside the top 10

Greg Hardy has been training for over 4 years full time now. He just got destroyed by an unranked fighter (he’s ranked 15th now).

Yes Garrett is more of a physical freak than Hardy, but Hardy is still a damn good athlete especially for his size and still gets demolished by unranked fighters after 4 years of training.

Garrett gets smoked by 95% of the HW that are on the UFC roster. And that’s not saying much with how horrible that division is. The only ones he beats are the tomato cans they have on to pump up fighters like Hardy.

Garrett is a bigger freak of nature than ngannou not saying that guarantees success but his physical talent is undeniable and the hw division is one of the weakest divisons in terms of talent and depth. Hardy is nowhere close to garrett in terms of physical talent and too undisciplined in his craft to be a serious title contender @ heavyweight.

Just because Garrett can jump higher and run faster, doesn’t mean he can hit nearly as hard.

I also agree that Garrett is the buffer physical freak compared to Hardy. But again Greg Hardy was known for his athleticism and was an All Pro NFL player himself. So it’s not like he was some unathletic scrub. And again Hardy has 4 years of full time training under his belt and just got whooped by a far inferior athlete who was an unranked fighter.

Just because you’re a great athlete, doesn’t mean you know how to throw a punch. Doesn’t mean you know how to stop a takedown, doesn’t mean you know how to get off your back and so on.

[Danny1616]

I don't think you understand how skilled these professionals fighters are.

Mcgregor is an incredible striker and is still significantly better at wrestling/grappling compared to the average person. If Zion takes him down, Mcgregor would easily submit him, it wouldn't be fair. These MMA fighters are trained in dealing with various positions, using leverage, attacking weak zones etc. If Zion tries to get into a striking battle, Mcgregor is so much quicker and actually knows how to strike.

[BlackNoir]

Size matters in fighting and Zion has a huge advantage, as long as he can take a punch or two from the 140lb man, he would smother the shiz out of him.

Being a freak athlete can be an advantage in fighting, Hershel Walker was rocking fools into his mid-late 50's in MMA, went undefeated.

[SAKURABA216]

Greg Hardy has been training for over 4 years full time now. He just got destroyed by an unranked fighter (he’s ranked 15th now).

Yes Garrett is more of a physical freak than Hardy, but Hardy is still a damn good athlete especially for his size and still gets demolished by unranked fighters after 4 years of training.

Garrett gets smoked by 95% of the HW that are on the UFC roster. And that’s not saying much with how horrible that division is. The only ones he beats are the tomato cans they have on to pump up fighters like Hardy.

Garrett is a bigger freak of nature than ngannou not saying that guarantees success but his physical talent is undeniable and the hw division is one of the weakest divisons in terms of talent and depth. Hardy is nowhere close to garrett in terms of physical talent and too undisciplined in his craft to be a serious title contender @ heavyweight.

Just because Garrett can jump higher and run faster, doesn’t mean he can hit nearly as hard.

I also agree that Garrett is the buffer physical freak compared to Hardy. But again Greg Hardy was known for his athleticism and was an All Pro NFL player himself. So it’s not like he was some unathletic scrub. And again Hardy has 4 years of full time training under his belt and just got whooped by a far inferior athlete who was an unranked fighter.

Just because you’re a great athlete, doesn’t mean you know how to throw a punch. Doesn’t mean you know how to stop a takedown, doesn’t mean you know how to get off your back and so on.

Yes we all know that, but given the fact that most UFC heavyweight fights can end with a single punch (more so than other weight classes) and there aren't a lot of elite wrestlers in the division I think Garrett would be able to land a couple bombs in an exchange before he gets taken down. I'd put money on him against anyone outside the top 10 (although #11 would be a tough fight).

https://rankingmma.com/ufc-rankings/heavyweight/

[Pelon chingon]

Garrett is a bigger freak of nature than ngannou not saying that guarantees success but his physical talent is undeniable and the hw division is one of the weakest divisons in terms of talent and depth. Hardy is nowhere close to garrett in terms of physical talent and too undisciplined in his craft to be a serious title contender @ heavyweight.

Just because Garrett can jump higher and run faster, doesn’t mean he can hit nearly as hard.

I also agree that Garrett is the buffer physical freak compared to Hardy. But again Greg Hardy was known for his athleticism and was an All Pro NFL player himself. So it’s not like he was some unathletic scrub. And again Hardy has 4 years of full time training under his belt and just got whooped by a far inferior athlete who was an unranked fighter.

Just because you’re a great athlete, doesn’t mean you know how to throw a punch. Doesn’t mean you know how to stop a takedown, doesn’t mean you know how to get off your back and so on.

Yes we all know that, but given the fact that most UFC heavyweight fights can end with a single punch (more so than other weight classes) and there aren't a lot of elite wrestlers in the division I think Garrett would be able to land a couple bombs in an exchange before he gets taken down. I'd put money on him against anyone outside the top 10 (although #11 would be a tough fight).

https://rankingmma.com/ufc-rankings/heavyweight/

Remember my name if anything like that ever happens I would gladly bet against it.

[peZt]

If Zion has at least a little bit of fighting experience, it's Zion easily. If he is absolutely disastrious at fighting McCregor could win but otherwise there's not really much he can do. Doesn't have the reach, the strength to ko him, can't beat him on the ground. Conor isn't known for his submission skills and the size and strength difference is just way too big for his bjj skills to overcome. A black belt bjj fighter could maybe submit someone 80 pounds bigger than him. But Conor isn't a black belt and Zion is 280 pounds of pure muscle.
And quickness and speed isn't as big of an advantage in real life as in Anime's. We're not talking about a random fat 6'6 dude here. But probably one of the most strong and athletic people in the world at his size