T&T board top 25 highest trade value - Vote for #16!

[Dr Positivity]

2018 list

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (1 year, 27.5 million + 5 year, 228.2 million extension, includes 5th year 51.9 million player option)
2. Luka Doncic (2 years, 18.9 million rookie contract)
3. Anthony Davis (5 years, 189.3 million, includes 5th year 43.2 million player option)
4. Lebron James (3 years, 124.9 million)
5. Nikola Jokic (3 years, 91.5 million)
6. Jayson Tatum (1 year, 9.9 million rookie contract + 5 years, 163 million extension, includes 5th year 37.1 million player option)
7. Joel Embiid (3 years, 94.7 million)
8. Stephen Curry (2 years, 88.8 million)
9. Zion Williamson (3 years, 34.4 million rookie contract)
10. Kevin Durant (3 years, 126 million, includes 3rd year 43.9 million player option)
11. Damian Lillard (1 year, 31.6 million + 4 years, 176.6 million extension)
12. James Harden (3 years, 133 million, includes 3rd year 47.4 million player option)
13. Ja Morant (3 years, 30.9 million rookie contract)
14. Karl-Anthony Towns (4 years, 131 million)
15. Kawhi Leonard (2 years, 70.4 million, includes 2nd year 36.0 million player option)

Vote for who has the #16 highest trade value in the league including caliber of play, age, salary, injury history, etc. In addition please nominate a player to replace them on the list.

Nominees:



Bam Adebayo (1 year, 5.1 million + 5 years, 163 million extension)



Trae Young (2 years, 14.9 million rookie contract)



Jaylen Brown (4 years, 106.2 million)



Ben Simmons (5 years, 177.2 million)



Domantas Sabonis (4 years, 80.1 million)



Paul George (5 years, 211.6 million, includes 5th year 48.8 million player option)



Bradley Beal (3 years, 98.9 million, includes 3rd year 36.4 million player option)



Donovan Mitchell (1 year, 5.2 million + 5 year, 163 million extension includes 5th year 37.1 million player option)



Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2 years, 9.6 million rookie contract)



LaMelo Ball (4 years, 35.5 million rookie contract)

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Vote- Simmons
Nominate- Kyrie

I think both of these guys have become very underrated because of various media/fan narratives that distract from the great things they do on the court.

[Dr Positivity]

Vote Trae Young

Been voting for him forever, star, young player, good style of play for this period

Nominate Devin Booker

Long contract helps here

[bondom34]

V Simmons
N Turner

Might be the only one here but he's probably a top 5 DPOY guy signed for about $18M a year for 3 years.

[RodyTur10]

Vote: Brown
Nominate: Booker

[Dr Positivity]

Bump

[E S V L]

Sabonis

Fox

[VCfor3]

Mitchell

Booker

[babyjax13]

Young
Grant --- great contract for his production, competent on both ends, Weaver has really proven us wrong (well, really, Grant has). Wish we could have seen he and Wood on the team together.

[JasonStern]

vote: Beal
nominate: LaVine

[stormi]

V: Simmons
N: Booker

[HartfordWhalers]

I’m not sure how 1 year of Kawhi beat out a couple of the next players who are locked up for 5 years.

And yes, I do know what 1 year of Kawhi got Toronto, but I also know what it cost them.

[nolang1]

I’m not sure how 1 year of Kawhi beat out a couple of the next players who are locked up for 5 years.

And yes, I do know what 1 year of Kawhi got Toronto, but I also know what it cost them.

Because you can win more playoff series (>0) in 1 year with Kawhi as your best player than you can in 5 years with the others. Also it clearly cost Toronto way less than it should've; they still had enough to come back strong the following year and are still a playoff team this year.


Vote: LaMelo
Nominate: Haliburton

[HartfordWhalers]

I’m not sure how 1 year of Kawhi beat out a couple of the next players who are locked up for 5 years.

And yes, I do know what 1 year of Kawhi got Toronto, but I also know what it cost them.

Because you can win more playoff series (>0) in 1 year with Kawhi as your best player than you can in 5 years with the others. Also it clearly cost Toronto way less than it should've; they still had enough to come back strong the following year and are still a playoff team this year.


Vote: LaMelo
Nominate: Haliburton

So Bam wins 0 series next 4 years?

[Sportfan73]

V: Simmons

N: Booker

[LightTheBeam]

V: Shai
N: Fox

[nolang1]

I’m not sure how 1 year of Kawhi beat out a couple of the next players who are locked up for 5 years.

And yes, I do know what 1 year of Kawhi got Toronto, but I also know what it cost them.

Because you can win more playoff series (>0) in 1 year with Kawhi as your best player than you can in 5 years with the others. Also it clearly cost Toronto way less than it should've; they still had enough to come back strong the following year and are still a playoff team this year.


Vote: LaMelo
Nominate: Haliburton

So Bam wins 0 series next 4 years?

Miami is 3-9 when Jimmy Butler doesn't play this year. Bam would be the closest in that group, but in 2-3 years' time when Butler has declined to the point of no longer being the Heat's best player it would still be a tall order for Bam. Should be pretty noncontroversial that once you get to the top 10-15 players, jumping up a tier within them is very valuable and taking someone who definitely is a top 5 player can be preferable to hoping someone hits the top 10 a few years from now. Also the one year thing is kind of specious: the whole thing people were using to ding his trade value last time he got traded was that he wanted to play in LA, and with the Clippers hypothetically trading him and the Lakers being capped out now, there wouldn't be too many places left for him to go (and of course even in the scenario where he leaves, you would have plenty of great sign-and-trade options available).

[HartfordWhalers]

Because you can win more playoff series (>0) in 1 year with Kawhi as your best player than you can in 5 years with the others. Also it clearly cost Toronto way less than it should've; they still had enough to come back strong the following year and are still a playoff team this year.


Vote: LaMelo
Nominate: Haliburton

So Bam wins 0 series next 4 years?

Miami is 3-9 when Jimmy Butler doesn't play this year. Bam would be the closest in that group, but in 2-3 years' time when Butler has declined to the point of no longer being the Heat's best player it would still be a tall order for Bam. Should be pretty noncontroversial that once you get to the top 10-15 players, jumping up a tier within them is very valuable and taking someone who definitely is a top 5 player can be preferable to hoping someone hits the top 10 a few years from now.

I have Bam safely winning 1 more series in the next 4 years, making your initial claim rubbish. But maybe you are right and he never will do so.

That Toronto won it all was very impressive. On the other hand, a Kawhi team didn't do so hot last year, even with another top player.

[nolang1]

So Bam wins 0 series next 4 years?

Miami is 3-9 when Jimmy Butler doesn't play this year. Bam would be the closest in that group, but in 2-3 years' time when Butler has declined to the point of no longer being the Heat's best player it would still be a tall order for Bam. Should be pretty noncontroversial that once you get to the top 10-15 players, jumping up a tier within them is very valuable and taking someone who definitely is a top 5 player can be preferable to hoping someone hits the top 10 a few years from now.

I have Bam safely winning 1 more series in the next 4 years, making your initial claim rubbish. But maybe you are right and he never will do so.

That Toronto won it all was very impressive. On the other hand, a Kawhi team didn't do so hot last year, even with another top player.

No, you're really stretching things with the East/West disparity where sure, maybe you can go around .500 and win a 4/5 series in the East whereas the Clippers were a top 4 regular season team last year and this and it might not be enough to make the WCF. That doesn't change the difference between being someone who's in the conversation for best player in the world and someone who might be like fringe top 10.

[Fencer reregistered]

Vote: Jaylen. Underpaid nearly complete player who would be a dream fit on any team. The pay gap vs. Donovan Mitchell is enough to put Jaylen ahead despite whatever arguments might seem to show Mitchell was better.

(Switched from Bam.)

Nominate: Booker.